What is the relationship between Porsche and VW?

S = Sh!t

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Roger
S = Sh!t

LOL...thanks.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like going up to people who own Porsches and saying "hey, nice Volkswagen!" They don't seem to get the humor though. I guess Porsche owners just don't have much of a sense of humor.

I also like to go up to the owner of a Porsche 911 Cabriolet and asking him how he likes his Boxster. That's always good for a laugh.

Yes, because all of us who own Porsches are stuck up twits who only want the badge.

The 911 was a 100% new design at the time and it owes nothing to the beetle aside from the engine/transaxle layout and its floor-hinged style of pedals. Even though those traits were carried over, the parts themselves were all-new. Now, Porsches like my 914 and my 924S were supposed to be VW's, even though all design work was carried out by Porsche. Actually, these two "bastard" Porsches have gone down in Porsche history as the best handling cars to ever come out of the Stuttgart company. Any 911 owner who is embarassed by the Boxster is an idiot, the Boxster is one hell of a damn fine automobile.

ZV

I'm just kidding around. I like Porsche cars and I think the 911 is one of the best all around sports cars there is.

I heard that many 911 Cabrio owners were unhappy with the design of the Boxster because it closely resembles the 911 Cabrio. Of course the 911 Cabrio costs upwards of $100k US and the Boxster is less than half that.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like going up to people who own Porsches and saying "hey, nice Volkswagen!" They don't seem to get the humor though. I guess Porsche owners just don't have much of a sense of humor.

I also like to go up to the owner of a Porsche 911 Cabriolet and asking him how he likes his Boxster. That's always good for a laugh.

Yes, because all of us who own Porsches are stuck up twits who only want the badge.

The 911 was a 100% new design at the time and it owes nothing to the beetle aside from the engine/transaxle layout and its floor-hinged style of pedals. Even though those traits were carried over, the parts themselves were all-new. Now, Porsches like my 914 and my 924S were supposed to be VW's, even though all design work was carried out by Porsche. Actually, these two "bastard" Porsches have gone down in Porsche history as the best handling cars to ever come out of the Stuttgart company. Any 911 owner who is embarassed by the Boxster is an idiot, the Boxster is one hell of a damn fine automobile.

ZV

I'm just kidding around. I like Porsche cars and I think the 911 is one of the best all around sports cars there is.

I heard that many 911 Cabrio owners were unhappy with the design of the Boxster because it closely resembles the 911 Cabrio. Of course the 911 Cabrio costs upwards of $100k US and the Boxster is less than half that.

 

It really should be SS :Q

Only kidding guys.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Sorry, DP...

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: Encryptic
Sorry to take this slightly off-topic, but what exactly is Porsche's "S" designation supposed to indicate (as in 924 S, Cayenne S, etc.)? I've never quite figured this out. Does it mean "Sport" and does it indicate an upgraded engine, suspension, etc.?

For a non Porsche owner, I think I devoted too much time on this subject. The S designation is for Porsches with engine displacement larger than 1.5 litter, turbo or non.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Encryptic
Sorry to take this slightly off-topic, but what exactly is Porsche's "S" designation supposed to indicate (as in 924 S, Cayenne S, etc.)? I've never quite figured this out. Does it mean "Sport" and does it indicate an upgraded engine, suspension, etc.?

For a non Porsche owner, I think I devoted too much time on this subject. The S designation is for Porsches with engine displacement larger than 1.5 litter, turbo or non.

Thanks, now I can sleep better at night.

 

Get back here cr4zymofo, I'm not done with you yet.

(Kicks cr4zymofo in the shin)

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: Roger
Get back here cr4zymofo, I'm not done with you yet. (Kicks cr4zymofo in the shin)

But how? ... You got one of the robotic leg? Wouldn't the walker get in the way?

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Roger
S = Sh!t

Really?

I always thought that the s-designation was better. Wasn't it first used in '52 on a 356 with a larger 1.5L engine? And then traditionally used later for models with larger engines?

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Roger
It really should be SS :Q

Only kidding guys.

 

[Asharus]

Correct. S is for sport. They are usually equipped with a larger engine and sportier suspension. Not only does the Boxter S have a larger engine, but has 2 radiators instead of one.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Encryptic
Sorry to take this slightly off-topic, but what exactly is Porsche's "S" designation supposed to indicate (as in 924 S, Cayenne S, etc.)? I've never quite figured this out. Does it mean "Sport" and does it indicate an upgraded engine, suspension, etc.?

It generally indicates an upgrade over the original model in some way. Porsche has a history of introducing the "regular" car first and then coming out with a version with more power (sometimes a little, sometimes fairly significant) and better suspension.

914: Originally 1.7 litre engine with 78 hp.
914S (changed to 914 2.0): 2.0 litre engine with 95 hp.

924: 2.0 litre engine with 95-110 hp depending upon the year.
924S (first one in the late 1970's): Very slightly more power and uprated suspension/brakes.
924S (the one most people know about from 1987/1988): Completely different chassis, engine and transaxle. Basically a 1986 944 with the 924's non-flared fenders and the pre-1985.5 944 interior.

911: Original car had a 120 HP 2.0 litre flat 6.
911S: 130 hp 2.0 litre flat 6. (In 911's the "S" designation was the highest trim level until the introduction of the "Carrera S" and later the Turbo.)

And so on and so forth. "S" generally indicates an upgraded version of the original car. In some cases the "S" model was a significant revision (the late 1980's 924S) and in some cases there is very little change aside from more power (914 "S").

ZV

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like going up to people who own Porsches and saying "hey, nice Volkswagen!" They don't seem to get the humor though. I guess Porsche owners just don't have much of a sense of humor.

Every time I see a really tall person, I go up and say "Hey Stretch, how's the weather up there?". They don't seem to get the humor though. I guess tall people don't have much of a sense of humor.

 

[phantom309]

Zenmervolt, don't forget the 944S - 16-valve engine with 20HP over 8v 944, and beefier tranny. I drive mine to work almost every day.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: phantom309
Zenmervolt, don't forget the 944S - 16-valve engine with 20HP over 8v 944, and beefier tranny. I drive mine to work almost every day.

I just got tired of listing examples. I figured that he got the idea by then. My next P-car is going to be a 951 when I can afford it. The 'teener and the 924S will have to do for now.

ZV