What is the purpose of "Cash for Clunkers"?

[Budmantom]

Only the government can run out of money in 4 days not 4 months as projected(by our government) and proclaim it as a success, I swear we have the dumbest of the dumb running this country (present company excluded).

 

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This program pisses off Republicans

Mission Accomplished :thumbsup:

No it doesn't pisses off Reps, it pisses off ordinary Americans. A program designed to work until Nov 1 only lasted less than 7 days and ran out of money! That's what's pissing off ordinary Americans. The WH economist are obviously shooting from the hip whenever they come out with economic figures including the $787 Stimulus, the employment figure of 8%, the create and save 3~4 million jobs and the neutral deficit UHC. Do you see a pattern? If you don't then you are truly a Democrat and should stay as such!

 

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: Jiggz

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This program pisses off Republicans

Mission Accomplished :thumbsup:

No it doesn't pisses off Reps, it pisses off ordinary Americans. A program designed to work until Nov 1 only lasted less than 7 days and ran out of money! That's what's pissing off ordinary Americans. The WH economist are obviously shooting from the hip whenever they come out with economic figures including the $787 Stimulus, the employment figure of 8%, the create and save 3~4 million jobs and the neutral deficit UHC. Do you see a pattern? If you don't then you are truly a Democrat and should stay as such!

For only Democrats can call a program designed to last 4 months that lasted only for 4 days a success! Are you listening? That is 4 days and not 4 weeks or 4 months! Now try applying the same true logic to the so called UHC.

 

[Vic]

To spur auto sales.... duh

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Jiggz
For only Democrats can call a program designed to last 4 months that lasted only for 4 days a success! Are you listening? That is 4 days and not 4 weeks or 4 months! Now try applying the same true logic to the so called UHC.

What "logic" is that?

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Jiggz

Originally posted by: Jiggz

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This program pisses off Republicans

Mission Accomplished :thumbsup:

No it doesn't pisses off Reps, it pisses off ordinary Americans. A program designed to work until Nov 1 only lasted less than 7 days and ran out of money! That's what's pissing off ordinary Americans. The WH economist are obviously shooting from the hip whenever they come out with economic figures including the $787 Stimulus, the employment figure of 8%, the create and save 3~4 million jobs and the neutral deficit UHC. Do you see a pattern? If you don't then you are truly a Democrat and should stay as such!

For only Democrats can call a program designed to last 4 months that lasted only for 4 days a success! Are you listening? That is 4 days and not 4 weeks or 4 months! Now try applying the same true logic to the so called UHC.

Whether or not it lasts 4 days or four months, the way the program was designed, you still only remove x number of 'clunkers' off the road with consumers buying more efficient vehicles. Some were afraid that the CARS program wouldn't incentivize people enough to purchase newer cars. If you look at it that way, the program was a resounding success.

You can't compare providing a service like medical care, fire/police protection, etc. which involves salaries, facilities, supplies, etc. to pay for with a program that trades x for y, in this case direct cash for older inefficient vehicles. Apples and Oranges.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Vic
To pay back the UAW and the bankers.... duh

Fixed!

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

 

[sciwizam]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

Not true, at least technically. You can't take out the engine (it's dead anyway) or the drivetrain, but you can sell other parts that can be salvaged.

http://cbs2chicago.com/consume...lunkers.2.1113177.html

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

The cars should have been donated to charities in this country.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

The cars should have been donated to charities in this country.

oh, hell, man... The cost of doing that would still outweigh simply crushing them...

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

The cars should have been donated to charities in this country.

oh, hell, man... The cost of doing that would still outweigh simply crushing them...

Are you joking?

It's really not that complicated, the dealer could call the charities and have them get the cars.

Besides that this government prides itself on spending, it's historic.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

The cars should have been donated to charities in this country.

oh, hell, man... The cost of doing that would still outweigh simply crushing them...

Are you joking?

It's really not that complicated, the dealer could call the charities and have them get the cars.

Besides that this government prides itself on spending, it's historic.

Which charities should get these vehicles? Who will plan this, who will be paid to move these vehicles? You're not going to move this much metal without many hands...

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

The cars should have been donated to charities in this country.

oh, hell, man... The cost of doing that would still outweigh simply crushing them...

Are you joking?

It's really not that complicated, the dealer could call the charities and have them get the cars.

Besides that this government prides itself on spending, it's historic.

Which charities should get these vehicles? Who will plan this, who will be paid to move these vehicles?

You could leave it up to the dealer or an acceptable list could come from Washington. The charities would have to get the vehicles.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

The cars should have been donated to charities in this country.

oh, hell, man... The cost of doing that would still outweigh simply crushing them...

Are you joking?

It's really not that complicated, the dealer could call the charities and have them get the cars.

Besides that this government prides itself on spending, it's historic.

Which charities should get these vehicles? Who will plan this, who will be paid to move these vehicles?

You could leave it up to the dealer or an acceptable list could come from Washington. The charities would have to get the vehicles.

What for you would be a acceptable list?

/from Washington....

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Which charities should get these vehicles? Who will plan this, who will be paid to move these vehicles? You're not going to move this much metal without many hands...

LOL

You are making it 10000x more complicated than it has to be.
Any 501c3 that takes cars.
Done deal.
They take them at no cost.
It has been happening for YEARS.

What is the real goal?
Reducing the used car market? Hmmmm.

The thing is that the government (Democrats) doesn't like these pesky non profits. Why do you think Obama wants to eliminate tax deductions to 501c3?

Charities get people help from the community not the government. Less people relent on the government less government can justify its existence.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Which charities should get these vehicles? Who will plan this, who will be paid to move these vehicles? You're not going to move this much metal without many hands...

LOL

You are making it 10000x more complicated than it has to be.
Any 501c3 that takes cars.
Done deal.
They take them at no cost.
It has been happening for YEARS.

What is the real goal?
Reducing the used car market? Hmmmm.

no, what your doing, is pretending that it's a simple matter of moving metal around - it takes people and time to undertake such a task....

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic
To spur auto sales.... duh

You missed my other posts in the thread.
My only issue with the program is turning a perfectly good operable car into an ice cube when it can be donated.

And again, you ignore the cost of transporting these all of these vehicles....

The scrap metal is worth more than keeping these cars operating.....

According to who, you? If the scrap metal was worth more as you insist. Somebody would be buying these junkers without the need for govt. And then scrapping the metal for profit.

Not just the raw metal, but the parts taken from these cars.... Lots of money in the scrap market....

No, it's raw metal because they can't take parts off, they must crush these cars. It appears even your low standards have been compromised.

oh, my! I spoke to Genx87's comment about the topic. Even if not making a profit from the parts (which was part of the Op's topic) the cost of "donating" these vehicles to another country would still outweigh the cost of scrapping them...

The cars should have been donated to charities in this country.

oh, hell, man... The cost of doing that would still outweigh simply crushing them...

Are you joking?

It's really not that complicated, the dealer could call the charities and have them get the cars.

Besides that this government prides itself on spending, it's historic.

If they did tht it'd still just be a bunch of polluters out on the road.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

What for you would be a acceptable list?

/from Washington....

The dealer would be my 1st choice but non politically affiliated charities would work for me.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
no, what your doing, is pretending that it's a simple matter of moving metal around - it take people and time to undertake such a task....

Except for the fact THAT THEY DO IT NOW.


The thing is that the government (Democrats) doesn't like these pesky non profits. Why do you think Obama wants to eliminate tax deductions to 501c3?

Charities get people help from the community not the government. Less people relent on the government less government can justify its existence.