UberNeuman
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UberNeuman
Lifer
- Nov 4, 1999
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Who is "donating" these cars? Once in the Cash for Clunkers program, they're part of it..
Seems like you boys like socialism, when it suits you... Care to tell those others what they should do with their vehicles...
Patranus
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- Apr 15, 2007
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How is this idea any different than donating to a charity and getting a tax deduction and then using that extra money saved from taxes to buy a car?
The program just links the two and offers a payment now instead of a deduction later.
Why do I like it? Because non profits encourage COMMUNITIES to support COMMUNITIES not commenities becoming dependent on the federal government.
UberNeuman
Lifer
- Nov 4, 1999
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Socilism implys everyone gets a share of those "cash for clunkers" money. In reality, only those with cars that's been polluting the country qualifies.
it's so stupid people who have a perfectly good running car can be talked into getting a new one and put themselves deeper in debt with a car payment.
wonder how many will be crying when the car gets repossessed....no worries though, we'll have a bailout for that too.
wonder how many will be crying when the car gets repossessed....no worries though, we'll have a bailout for that too.
Patranus
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Nope. Try again.
Too bad the "my rig" link doesn't work in your sig or we could see how much your computer is polluting the country.
I demand a "Cash for Pentiums" program to trade in your evil Pentium powered computer for more efficient Atom powered computer.
Freshgeardude
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I think the program is a good idea but its being overused on 5 year old, perfectly good cars. I know plenty of people that would take the cars and pay the 4,500 to the person instead of destroying the car.
Obama was smart in making this program but didnt include a "cars must be 10 years or older " part of it, which is stupid.
It costs more in money and pollution to trash the "relatively new" cars and build a new one then it is to keep the old one on the road
Obama was smart in making this program but didnt include a "cars must be 10 years or older " part of it, which is stupid.
It costs more in money and pollution to trash the "relatively new" cars and build a new one then it is to keep the old one on the road
Great point - if Cash for Clunkers is successful, why not do more of it? Why only spend a couple billion on the program when we'll get even more benefit by spending a couple hundred billion! Let's have a Cash for old Airplanes program - that way we can encourage airlines to buy newer, more efficient planes! Let's have a Cash for old Big Rigs program - I'm sure there's a ton of old, inefficient 18 wheelers out there. And a Cash for any old household applicance you can think of program! My goodness, we'll be rich from all the energy we'll save, everyone will be employed producing new stuff, and we'll save the planet too!
The flaw in this, like any fiscal liberal program, is that eventually you run out of other people's cash. The owner of the clunker or any old item, using their own money, is the best one to make the decision of whether or not it should be replaced - not the government.
MovingTarget
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Socialism not found. Where does this involve direct government control of manufacturing? Nowhere. Nobody is even being forced to participate in the program. Think of it as the automotive equivalent of a bottle deposit system - cash for bottlecaps, but scaled up to larger goods.
PJABBER
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Hey, you aren't going to be eligible for this bailout unless you make less than $50K. Guess that leaves me out.
Clunkers' Program Hits a Speed Bump
August 06, 2009 6:01 PM
ABC - The Note
ABC News' Jonathan Karl reports: The effort to inject another two billion dollars into Cash for Clunkers has hit a potential road block in the Senate that could kill the bill.
Republiicans are throwing their support behind an amendment offered by Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, that would limit clunker rebates to individuals with annual incomes of 50 K or less. With Republican support the amendment stands a good chance of passing unless the majority of Democrats, who mostly favor the amendment, vote against it.
Why is that a problem?
If any amendment passes it means the House has to take up the bill again and the House, of course, has already adjourned for its August recess.
The Democratic leadership is now scrambling to get rank- and -file Democratic senators to vote against an amendment almost all of them favor. It would be a very tough vote.
"It does seem to be out of character for Democrats to support allowing millionaires access to borrowed money to buy cars," said Don Stewart, spokesman for Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
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