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Virge_

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https://a.hrc.onl/imageman/2016_Q2-Email/20160605_hfa_graphic/secret-win-V2-060416c_02.png

Isn't it interesting that a.hrc.onl, which hosts content for the Clinton foundation, has what appears to be a pre-released AP image collusion the day prior to the California elections?

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AP calls claims of 'colluding' with Clinton in delegate announcement 'bogus'

The Associated Press has defended their decision to announce the delegate count ahead of the primaries, and told Sinclair in an email "the notion that AP, an independent news cooperative founded 170 years ago, would 'collude' with a political candidate is bogus and reprehensible."The statement claimed no one at the agency had an understanding about the origins of the cited graphic.

"By Monday evening, 571 superdelegates had told us unequivocally that they intend to vote for Clinton at the convention. Adding that number to the delegates awarded to Clinton in primary and caucus voting to date gave her the number needed to be the presumptive nominee," Senior Vice President and Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll stated.

"That is news, and reporting the news is what we do. Nothing in that discourages or prevents voters in six states from exercising their right to go to the polls today and cast their ballots."


http://komonews.com/news/nation-wor...g-clinton-democratic-party-nomination-graphic


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Shaun King has another interesting image he's been circulating. Sounds like the AP was a bit more proactive in "reporting the news". It really is sickening
 
So what's the complaint here? The media isn't allowed to count and do math?

They've been keeping count the entire time, and the w/e primaries pushed the number over the line as Sanders got blown out in PR.

Quit with all the crying and stupid conspiracy theories.
 
Bitek said:
So what's the complaint here? The media isn't allowed to count and do math?

They've been keeping count the entire time, and the w/e primaries pushed the number over the line as Sanders got blown out in PR.

Quit with all the crying and stupid conspiracy theories.
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The important point is that Sanders fans like myself just gave up today and voted for Clinton, like the AP hoped and expected. Money would do anything to stop Sanders. He is the only one they fear.

The Clinton people also had prepared a big dissertation about how they didn't want the information leaked, wink wink.
 
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Bitek said:
So what's the complaint here? The media isn't allowed to count and do math. Quit with all the crying and stupid conspiracy theories.
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The complaint is the timing at which they suddenly decided to show off their mathematical skills. If Clinton had this all wrapped up weeks ago, why the fear of Sanders overtaking her in California if only by a slim margin? No, the AP call was made very much to influence the primaries today. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's quite apparent to anyone being objective about it. Kind of like how there are suddenly budgetary concerns right before an election that limit voting centers in certain communities, which some people don't see a problem with.
 
Bitek said:
So what's the complaint here? The media isn't allowed to count and do math?

They've been keeping count the entire time, and the w/e primaries pushed the number over the line as Sanders got blown out in PR.

Quit with all the crying and stupid conspiracy theories.
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Why is the image hosted on the Clinton Foundation website if it's "the media"?

How can you fail to make the connection on this?
 
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Starbuck1975 said:
The complaint is the timing at which they suddenly decided to show off their mathematical skills. If Clinton had this all wrapped up weeks ago, why the fear of Sanders overtaking her in California if only by a slim margin? No, the AP call was made very much to influence the primaries today. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's quite apparent to anyone being objective about it. Kind of like how there are suddenly budgetary concerns right before an election that limit voting centers in certain communities, which some people don't see a problem with.
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Suddenly? Every time I turn on the news they have the delegate counts. Every minor primary day NBC runs all night political coverage discussing counts, maps, districts and endless scenarios. You would have to make a special effort to remain ignorant of this.

Clinton had this won in March after the southern primaries. The NY primary sealed the deal. Sanders' garbage time rally changed nothing. Cali was only playing for optics.

I thought the tea party had the lock on the nutty conspiracy theories? God help us if the socialists join the act too.
 
Bitek said:
Please, explain your "collision" theory.
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Bitek said:
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Suddenly? Every time I turn on the news they have the delegate counts. Every minor primary day NBC runs all night political coverage discussing counts, maps, districts and endless scenarios. You would have to make a special effort to remain ignorant of this.

Clinton had this won in March after the southern primaries. The NY primary sealed the deal. Sanders' garbage time rally changed nothing. Cali was only playing for optics.

I thought the tea party had the lock on the nutty conspiracy theories? God help us if the socialists join the act too.
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What reason does an image with "secret-win-V2" in the name have to be hosted on a Clinton Foundation website DAYS before the California primary?

Why was the image hosted on the Clinton Foundation website, subsequently named secret-win-V2, the same image the Associated Press used in their news articles yesterday?

If this is not the Clinton Foundation giving propaganda for the AP to publish - are you suggesting the AP editors themselves were somehow working in some pre-win collaboration with the Clinton Foundation and for some obscure reason the Clinton Foundation decided to host the image?

What about ANY of that makes sense? And, more importantly, why do you think its OK?
 
Virge_ said:
What reason does an image with "secret-win-V2" in the name have to be hosted on a Clinton Foundation website DAYS before the California primary?

Why was the image hosted on the Clinton Foundation website, subsequently named secret-win-V2, the same image the Associated Press used in their news articles yesterday?

If this is not the Clinton Foundation giving propaganda for the AP to publish - are you suggesting the AP editors themselves were somehow working in some pre-win collaboration with the Clinton Foundation and for some obscure reason the Clinton Foundation decided to host the image?

What about ANY of that makes sense? And, more importantly, why do you think its OK?
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Is it days or day before? Cuz in your OP you wrote day before, and now you're claiming days before. Which is it?
 
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ElFenix said:
Is it days or day before? Cuz in your OP you wrote day before, and now you're claiming days before. Which is it?
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The image was first reported (earliest time stamp I have seen) Sunday evening. I'll find the exact image and timestamp and report back when I locate it. It would suggest 1 day before the AP used the image in their article. Short timeframe for this, sure - but let's be realistic, is it really unreasonable?
 
Bitek said:
Do you think they printed the hats and t shirts after the clock ran out?
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It's frustrating to me that you don't see why this is different.

Is the Associated Press supposed to be an independent agency, or is it supposed to work with candidates to release images declaring them the winner before they win? Do you not see the danger it poses to do so as a manipulation tactic to attempt to sway CA voters before they have voted?
 
This was a really unfair move by AP, everyone knows that Bernie supporters only vote when they are told to. The AP purposely made Bernie Sanders supporters not vote! Its a dirty move if you are a gullible idiot, or a Bernie supporter.
 
Virge_ said:
The image was first reported (earliest time stamp I have seen) Sunday evening. I'll find the exact image and timestamp and report back when I locate it. It would suggest 1 day before the AP used the image in their article. Short timeframe for this, sure - but let's be realistic, is it really unreasonable?
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Or, they've had it for quite a while as everyone who knew anything knew Clinton won a while ago.

Everyone has just been waiting to hit the post button when the numbers made it official.

So is your complaint that the campaign probably provides selected artwork to the media rather than relying on them to use whatever stock Clinton photos they have for important events?
 
Bitek said:
Or, they've had it for quite a while as everyone who knew anything knew Clinton won a while ago.

Everyone has just been waiting to hit the post button when the numbers made it official.

So is your complaint that the campaign probably provides selected artwork to the media rather than relying on them to use whatever stock Clinton photos they have for important events?
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They literally took a play from the Republican playbook and pulled the same stupid shit that Cruz did to Carson in Iowa. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/ted-cruz-ben-carson-iowa-voicemails/

My complaint is that with polls showing a near 50/50 tie, even a few percentage of people unable to vote because they heard this and thought it to be true can flip that 50/50 to something else, artificially.

Cheating by any other name is still cheating, even if by fractions of a %.
 
Virge_ said:
They literally took a play from the Republican playbook and pulled the same stupid shit that Cruz did to Carson in Iowa. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/ted-cruz-ben-carson-iowa-voicemails/

My complaint is that with polls showing a near 50/50 tie, even a few percentage of people unable to vote because they heard this and thought it to be true can flip that 50/50 to something else, artificially.

Cheating by any other name is still cheating, even if by fractions of a %.
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So you are pulling the stupidity card? Bernie supporters are too stupid to realize their view still mattered?
 
ivwshane said:
So you are pulling the stupidity card? Bernie supporters are too stupid to realize their view still mattered?
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You fail to recognize this thing called statistics and your limited mental capacity means this is the only reply from me you will likely ever get.
 
Virge_ said:
They literally took a play from the Republican playbook and pulled the same stupid shit that Cruz did to Carson in Iowa. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/ted-cruz-ben-carson-iowa-voicemails/

My complaint is that with polls showing a near 50/50 tie, even a few percentage of people unable to vote because they heard this and thought it to be true can flip that 50/50 to something else, artificially.

Cheating by any other name is still cheating, even if by fractions of a %.
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Math isn't cheating.

Nothing Sanders did today was going to win the nomination

By your logic, perhaps Carson is still being cheated because people who can do math keep calling Trump the nominee just because he won the needed delegates.
 
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Virge_ said:
You fail to recognize this thing called statistics and your limited mental capacity means this is the only reply from me you will likely ever get.
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Who is failing to recognize statistics? Statistically, Bernie is getting his ass kicked.
 
ElFenix said:
Who is failing to recognize statistics? Statistically, Bernie is getting his ass kicked.
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Whatever makes you feel better about your self narrative, Fenix.

Ass kicked by a damn near tie suggests you're pretty delusional, so carry on living in that fantasy world of yours.
 
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