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What is the prevailing theory on BLACK HOLES?

Pundit

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A long time ago, I read that if a star has a large enough mass, the electron shells of its molecules will break up and a neutron star will form. When its energy (don't remember from what though) runs out, it will collapse and form a singularity (black hole). Is this how the scientific community believes it to happen? And what is the nature of the singularity?

Also, I haven't had a chance to read Hawking's work. Has anybody here read his work?
 
black hole

An area of space-time with a gravitational field so intense that its escape velocity is equal to or exceeds the speed of light.
A great void; an abyss: The government created a bureaucratic black hole that swallows up individual initiative.
 


<< The theory is-- they suck! (sorry, I guess that anwser kinda sucks as well) >>



was that a pun or are you stupid?
 


<< And what is the nature of the singularity? >>



The singularity is currently an enigma. We can only suppose the nature of a singularity. Many believe this is the key to many questions regarding the universe.



<< Also, I haven't had a chance to read Hawking's work. Has anybody here read his work? >>



Yes, Brief History of Time and The Universe in a Nutshell. Both good texts.
 


<< What is the prevailing theory on BLACK HOLES? >>




I would say they are just like white holes only they are African American!
 
Here's the basics...

Stars are extremely massive. Their gravity is constantly trying to pull all of the mass to the centre of the star. The reason why this doesn't normally happen is because the nuclear fusion going on inside the star provides an outward force that counteracts the force of gravity. The star is constantly in a state of equilibrium as the gravity and fusion pressure are balanced.

Now, when a star starts to run out of hydrogen in it's core, the outward pressure is diminished a bit. Gravity compresses the star a bit, and usually some more hydrogen will burn. Basically, the star will oscillate for a while as it's hydrogen supply sputters. Once the hydrogen is pretty much gone from the core, no fusion happens, and the star begins to collapse rapidly. Pressure in the core will be increased and will have sufficient energy for helium fusion. The helium burning stage will be similar to the hydrogen burning stage (on the inside at least), and this will continue throughout the elements until...

...the star tries to burn iron. The fusion of iron is endothermic, so even though some of it may be fused, all it does is take up energy. The outward force from the core is stopped almost completely, and you've just got a couple umpteen-jillion tons of star collapsing on to an iron core in a free fall. When the star collapses onto it's core (assuming it's massive enough of course), the impact may be intense enough to break down the electron shells and force the electrons into the nucleus. The atom becomes just a core of neutrons, and a neutron star is formed. If there is even more gravitational energy left over, the core may compress even more, to the point where the neutrons are so densely packed that the escape velocity of the remaining "star" is higher than c.
 
Some believe the energy and matter sucked into a black hole is not lost. At the other "end" of the black hole is an outlet, possibly the creative center of another universe.
 
It isn't lost of course. It just becomes part of the black hole. And the black hole can radiate energy out that we can detect too. Actually, black holes "evaporate" constantly...
 


<< The theory is-- they suck!


(sorry, I guess that anwser kinda sucks as well)
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LOL i didnt think about it that way
 


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<< What is the prevailing theory on BLACK HOLES? >>




I would say they are just like white holes only they are African American!
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rofl 😀
 


<< If there is even more gravitational energy left over, the core may compress even more, to the point where the neutrons are so densely packed that the escape velocity of the remaining "star" is higher than c. >>


I was under the impression that at this stage the structure of the neutron collapses as well.

<< What is the prevailing theory on BLACK HOLES? >>
I would say they are just like white holes only they are African American! >>

<< The theory is-- they suck!
(sorry, I guess that anwser kinda sucks as well) >>


And here I was thinking that there's no way somebody could bring humor into this thread 😀
 
I haven't heard of anything about neutrons collapsing... You'd probably have to have an insanely massive black hole with some kind of super collapse in order for that to happen...

It isn't necessary for a black hole to be super dense though. I can't remember the exact numbers, but black holes with masses ~100 000 000 times that of the sun may only be as dense as jupiter... Not 100% sure though.
 
Taken from here


"MYTH: Black holes are very dense.
TRUTH: Small and medium black holes are very dense, but a supermassive black hole with a 100 million solar masses, for example would have a density the same as water. [You can work this out from the mass of the black hole and the radius of its event horizon; this assumes that all of the matter is distributed within the entire event horizon, not just in the singularity.]"
 
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