What is the point of Linux? (Not a flame)

jediphx

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Ok I have used windows most of my life mainly because like most when I was young I played games and most games were windows. I have dabbled with mac os and have tried to dabble with linux. I have tried so many linux distros I have lost count. There always seems to be some hardware that won't work and it takes insanely to much time to either get it working or fail to do so. I really want to try new things but I really have a hard time understanding the purpose of linux
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: jediphx
Ok I have used windows most of my life mainly because like most when I was young I played games and most games were windows. I have dabbled with mac os and have tried to dabble with linux. I have tried so many linux distros I have lost count. There always seems to be some hardware that won't work and it takes insanely to much time to either get it working or fail to do so. I really want to try new things but I really have a hard time understanding the purpose of linux

Linux isnt what it used to be, especially with hardware. It's often more plug and play than window is.

I personally wouldnt use it full time for a high end desktop, because of the lack of gaming and high end apps.

But for a laptop, its great. Uses far less resources than windows, even with all the eye candy on. Hell, I've got a 1.3mhz/512mb/32mb radeon 9000, and it runs ubuntu + compiz great - faster and looks better than vista, at about 1/5th the memory footprint.

Loaded it on, and everything worked 100% out of the box. Had to do a bit of hacking to set up the power management and such, but otherwise, its great.
 

ColKurtz

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It's largely philosophical for the end-user space - at the corporate level acquisition costs for Microsoft OS play a huge role.

For end-users, open source means transparency, which means not being forced to comply with "helpful" technologies like TPM, etc.
Linux is more secure, both at an architectural level and the fact that the smaller install base attracts less attempts.
It's largely free.
It's less bloated, so performance is often better on older hardware.
It's more stable.

That's just a few reasons off the top of my head. I'm sure you'll get LOTS of other opinions.
 

Markbnj

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I'd say it is about competition, which is almost always good. It's tough to make a case for dumping investor dollars into any serious effort to compete with MS, so the programmer community did it for free. I don't use Linux regularly, and I often disagree with the communitarian, anti-capitalist underpinnings of the "movement," but at the same time I think it has had nothing but positive effects on the overalll marketplace.
 

nweaver

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It's about using my computer. I have FAR less problems with my desktop now that I run linux. It does everything I need, and usually better then windows.
 

Schadenfroh

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For some it is an alternative to Windows, others it is what they are familiar with (unix), for the rest it is competition for Microsoft that drives them to further improve Windows, win / win either way you look at it!

I am currently unable to use Linux very often for the Alsa people still do not have sound working with the Conexant HD audio chip in my notebook:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2791300
Dell (despite selling PCs with Ubuntu) does not provide linux drivers for my Dell Color Laser printer, and thus I have to print in black and white in Linux.
I am also addicted to Microsoft software, I enjoy Office 2003 (especially Outlook), the game and software compatibility of Windows (I am most comfortable in Visual Studio), grew up with Windows NT / 2000 (so Windows is familiar to me and I did not get burned for life with Windows ME because I never used it), fortunately as a student all Microsoft software is almost free for me. My Ubuntu and Windows XP installs are both rock solid stable. Security is not an issue for I practice safe use (system is always updated, behind a hardware firewall, common sense, etc.)

Dual booting is the best option (if you can afford Windows and have the HD space to spare)!
 

Brazen

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that's like asking "what's the point of Ford?" because you drive a Chevy; or "What's the point of Dell?" because you use HP, or "What's the point of Pepsi?" because you drink Coke.

My answer for linux would be "because it works better" just like I would say I drink Pepsi "because it tastes better." People's tastes in OSes are different just as people's tastes in beverages are different.
 

doornail

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I use Linux because I don't like where Microsoft has taken Windows. I don't mind paying for software but I'll be damned if I'll ask permission to use something I've bought.

 

drag

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Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'd say it is about competition, which is almost always good. It's tough to make a case for dumping investor dollars into any serious effort to compete with MS, so the programmer community did it for free. I don't use Linux regularly, and I often disagree with the communitarian, anti-capitalist underpinnings of the "movement," but at the same time I think it has had nothing but positive effects on the overalll marketplace.

Ha. "anti-capitalist"?

Microsoft is anti-capitalist because they do everything they can to setup barriers to competition. They use lots of legal methods to do this, some legally and morally dubious, such as leveraging their monopoly on the desktop for many years to manipulate other businesses.

They use the government to setup barriers to competition also. Such at the patent rhetoric. Every spring or so for the past 3-4 years they've going on a agressive campaign to use the patent situation in a attempt to scare people away from using Linux, threatening people and such things.


Linux is very pro-capitalist in the way that it dramaticly lowers the barriers to competition.

Captialism only works in a society were costs of entry into a new market is low. So that new businesses and individuals can come in and provide better solutions. The barrier must be low. It's impossible nowadays to write a new OS from scratch and have any hope of competiting with any large software maker.

Linux is all about these sort of things, it's all about lowering barriers and making technology more aviable, more approachable to more people. All you need is the skills and the determination and you can provide solutions that are as complex and effective as anybody else.

To make money all you need to do is be better at what your doing then other people. When somebody pays for a Redhat license or buys services from IBM or other company regarding Linux it is because it's advantagous for _themselves_, not becuase they have to.

The business case for paying for Linux systems is because by doing that a business can save money by spending it. That if there is no business case for paying for the software nobody is going to force them to.

Meanwhile Microsoft is using government laws and propping up legal groups like the BSA to force people to pay for the software they require. For a lot of companies they got locked into the way MS does their file formats and network protocols and have no choice by to be forced by Microsoft to pay licensing fees otherwise they will face legal sanctioning through invasive and expensive auditing or just plan lawsuits.

And Microsoft is going after small profitable businesses like Xandros and are using patent lawsuit blackmail to trick people to paying Microsoft for licenses for software they did not create and for innovations they are not responsible for.


 

BurnItDwn

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I run linux for things it's good at.
For instance, My DVR is running Linux because I like to run MythTV. There is no "DVR" or "HTPC" package available for Windows that comes close to the amount I can do with MythTV, and MythTV and Linux are all free. Sure it takes a bit of time to set it all up, but that is done and over with.
 

jediphx

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yeah i wish it could game. Sucks that game developers dont see Linux as a potential area of growth and money making
 

stupidkid

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Well Linux can game to a certain extent. I installed CSS/HL2 through Cedega no problem and it ran very smoothly. Granted, the graphics settings weren't as high as they were in Windows (actually I couldn't even select certain options available in Windows), but I guess it's a good start. Also games like Doom 3 and Quake 4 have Linux installers and are playable w/o emulation.