What is the point in rotating tires?
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rh71
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My fronts are wearing on the edges quite noticeably so I'd like to rotate both to the back... didn't think that's how you normally rotate though... supposed to be a pattern to follow but I guess not if they look like that.
Anyway, what's this about FWD and putting non-worn up there ? What if you have RWD ?
Anyway, what's this about FWD and putting non-worn up there ? What if you have RWD ?
Originally posted by: rh71
My fronts are wearing on the edges quite noticeably so I'd like to rotate both to the back... didn't think that's how you normally rotate though... supposed to be a pattern to follow but I guess not if they look like that.
Anyway, what's this about FWD and putting non-worn up there ? What if you have RWD ?
You have to low pressure in your tires.
In a perfect world where perfectly flat & completely rigid tires ran on perfectly level and straight roads and it was impossible to mis-align anything, rotation might not be necessary.
Here in the real world it's necessary.
Go look at the tires on your car & come tell us what you see.
Viper GTS
a lot of tire resellers include free rotation as part of the selling price. I get mine rotated every 10,00km's for free.
rh71
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Yes I suspected that and I've been too lazy to find an air pump at the station (I hardly drive it at all). But what's done is done and it's already worn.Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: rh71
My fronts are wearing on the edges quite noticeably so I'd like to rotate both to the back... didn't think that's how you normally rotate though... supposed to be a pattern to follow but I guess not if they look like that.
Anyway, what's this about FWD and putting non-worn up there ? What if you have RWD ?
You have to low pressure in your tires.
Will inflate when I can remember though.For the record though, I have them at 29psi like the door sticker recommends... I always thought it was too low especially for a truck.
Steer tires create more wear to the tread. On FWD it is compuonded even more. Rotating the tires helps to keep the wear even on the tires and help extend the tread life. By waiting until you see the wear damage the tire is almost worn out and will only get worse even after rotating.
I change my oil and rotate my tires at the same time. Used to be every 5000mi., But my new truck wants it done at 3500. I'm too lazy for this, but the ft. tires start to set, so it has to be done. Thus, at 4K the tires get rotated and the oil gets changed. Too soon for the oil, I know. I'm thinking of letting the tire dealer do a rotation at 3500 and then I'll do another at 3500 and change the oil. Synthetic. Should work out just fine. I'll just have to keep an eye on the dealer. Haven't found one yet that does a proper rotation. Last time I caught the fool crossing to the left and bringing them straight across to the right. Made him do it over. Gotta watch 'em.
As to the proper sequence, there's only two ways, as far as I'm concerned. Forget what the owner's manual tells you.
Rear wheel drive: Cross the fronts to the rear and bring the rears straight up.
Front wheel drive: Cross the rears to the front and bring the fronts straight back.
I do a 5 tire rotation, but I'm one of the few, so I won't go into it here, unless someone really wants to know.
Every time I rotate it feels like I'm riding on new rubber, for the next 500mi., even when the tires are almost gone.
The two main reasons for rotation are: 1)even wear for the life of the tire.
2) prevents radial tire pull, noticeable mostly on ft. wh. dr.
As to the proper sequence, there's only two ways, as far as I'm concerned. Forget what the owner's manual tells you.
Rear wheel drive: Cross the fronts to the rear and bring the rears straight up.
Front wheel drive: Cross the rears to the front and bring the fronts straight back.
I do a 5 tire rotation, but I'm one of the few, so I won't go into it here, unless someone really wants to know.
Every time I rotate it feels like I'm riding on new rubber, for the next 500mi., even when the tires are almost gone.
The two main reasons for rotation are: 1)even wear for the life of the tire.
2) prevents radial tire pull, noticeable mostly on ft. wh. dr.
That does make it much harder to rotate them.
And for the econobox drivers who think front tires all wear out faster, my rwd sportscar went through a set of rear tires every 9,000-11,000 miles and front tires every 12,000-15,000 miles. Aside from the fact that I couldn't rotate them if I wanted to, they simply never needed it - they'd go from new to bald in a year.
If you are PAYING somebody to rotate your tires, and you do it more often than 2-3 times in your tire's lifespan, I'd really question whether or not you'd be better off not rotating them and just buying new tires 20% earlier. Do the math and let us know what you figure out. Especially with cars that take small 14" tires, I can't imagine it's worth the $25-35 or so some shops would charge you for the rotation.
And for the econobox drivers who think front tires all wear out faster, my rwd sportscar went through a set of rear tires every 9,000-11,000 miles and front tires every 12,000-15,000 miles. Aside from the fact that I couldn't rotate them if I wanted to, they simply never needed it - they'd go from new to bald in a year.
If you are PAYING somebody to rotate your tires, and you do it more often than 2-3 times in your tire's lifespan, I'd really question whether or not you'd be better off not rotating them and just buying new tires 20% earlier. Do the math and let us know what you figure out. Especially with cars that take small 14" tires, I can't imagine it's worth the $25-35 or so some shops would charge you for the rotation.
Why pay someone else to rotate it? Jack up the car, switch the tires around, either criss cross or just front to back. Hardly anything worth paying someone for.
In order to properly rotate my tires, I have to break them down from the rims and swap them that way. The front and rear wheels on my car are different from each other (different offsets). So, I don't rotate mine. My last set lasted me 5 years/30k miles, and those were the cheapest garbage the previous owner could find to slap on there and sell it.
The tires we had on our sunfire had a little over 100,000 km's on them. Though they were almost bald when we changed them. Hopefully the new set will last as long.
Though they were almost bald when we changed them. Hopefully the new set will last as long.
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