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What is the more dangerous and causes accidents/deaths for Drivers Poll.

This is a rigged poll.

You said speeding was NOT dangerous. However others will vote for option 2 because technically a skilled driver can drive safely at any speed.

The truth is that speed is dangerous because most people do not have the skill to drive well enough at high speeds.
 
http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/personal_injury/car/causes.html

The biggest of all causes of car accidents is drivers who operate motor vehicles under the influence of alcohol. Thirty percent of all Americans will be involved in an alcohol related accident at some point in their lifetime. Alcohol is involved in more than forty percent of all car accidents. In 2003, more than 13,000 people lost their lives in alcohol related traffic accidents.

Causes of car accidents are often attributed to driver negligence. This is especially true for young and inexperienced drivers, though any driver can act negligently or recklessly on the road. One quarter of all car accidents involve a teenaged driver. Motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death for persons aged five to twenty-seven. Lack of experience, risk-taking behavior, distractions, and alcohol or drug use are common causes of car accidents that involve teen drivers. Reckless and aggressive driving are major causes of car accidents for any age group.

Defective auto parts, vehicle design, or car maintenance are also major causes of car accidents. Defective door latches, seat belts, airbags, seat backs, roofs, ignition systems, and fuel systems are all causes of car accidents or contributing factors in the damage that is caused in vehicle accidents. Causes of car accidents can also include overall faulty design of a motor vehicle which makes accidents and damages more likely. SUV design makes these vehicles less stable on the road and four times more likely to rollover in an accident, compared to passenger cars. When SUV design defects cause or contribute to car accidents, the manufacturer of the vehicle can be liable for damages.

Other major causes of car accidents include poor weather and unsafe road conditions. These causes of car accidents can be difficult to attribute to personal or party negligence, though other factors may have also contributed to the damages sustained in these accidents.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
This is a rigged poll.

You said speeding was NOT dangerous. However others will vote for option 2 because technically a skilled driver can drive safely at any speed.

:roll:
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
This is a rigged poll.

You said speeding was NOT dangerous. However others will vote for option 2 because technically a skilled driver can drive safely at any speed.

The truth is that speed is dangerous because most people do not have the skill to drive well enough at high speeds.

Yeah, but it is rarely the speeder that is the cause of the accident. If anything, it is the person they are flying up behind who makes a blind lane change.
 
MOST people do not have the skill to drive at any speed safely.

Thus the way to regulate safe driving is through speed, not specific habits.

The two poll options are NOT equal, one is a "more specific" issue than the other.

This is a rigged poll and it's invalid. The idea that "lack of skill" is the reason why people get into accidents is impractical and unrealistic because you cannot expect everyone to have perfect skill.
 
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
This is a rigged poll.

You said speeding was NOT dangerous. However others will vote for option 2 because technically a skilled driver can drive safely at any speed.

The truth is that speed is dangerous because most people do not have the skill to drive well enough at high speeds.

Yeah, but it is rarely the speeder that is the cause of the accident. If anything, it is the person they are flying up behind who makes a blind lane change.

werd
 
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Yeah, but it is rarely the speeder that is the cause of the accident. If anything, it is the person they are flying up behind who makes a blind lane change.

If that person wasn't speeding, they would be able to top quick enough to avoid the other bad driver.

Now who's fault is it? See you can twist it anyway you want.
 
Inattentive driving, absolutely. When I'm speeding I'm nothing if not more attentive. Though I've had some close calls when trying to multitask.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
This is a rigged poll.

You said speeding was NOT dangerous. However others will vote for option 2 because technically a skilled driver can drive safely at any speed.

The truth is that speed is dangerous because most people do not have the skill to drive well enough at high speeds.
Most people don't have the skill to drive well when talking on the phone or putting on makeup, etc. so what's your gripe?
 
Speeding is not as dangerous as other acts because speeders tend to pay closer attention to what's going on. No, I don't have any facts to back this claim up. This is based on my own observations.

Inattentive drivers, however, are fscking dangerous. In fact, I had a hell of a time merging onto the freeway this morning because some lady on a cell phone couldn't be bothered to get up to speed on the ramp. Thanks to her, we both had to enter the freeway at 35MPH. When I zipped past her, she was reading some garbage on a notepad to some chump on the phone.

People behind the wheel who are doing everything BUT driving are far more dangerous than speeders. But cops don't give a crap about them because it's not an opened-and-closed case like catching a speeder is. More effort, less profit.

Fscking retarded.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Yeah, but it is rarely the speeder that is the cause of the accident. If anything, it is the person they are flying up behind who makes a blind lane change.

If that person wasn't speeding, they would be able to top quick enough to avoid the other bad driver.

Now who's fault is it? See you can twist it anyway you want.

Yeah, it can certainly go either way. The point is though, a speeder will rarely cause an accident by themselves. It almost always takes an inattentive driver. Also, an inattentive driver WILL cause an accident by themselves. So basically, an inattentive driver can cause an accident both when there is a speeder involved and there are normal circumstances (so all situations), whereas it takes a special situation for a speeder to cause an accident.
 
My vote is for tailgating causing the most accidents. It is the one thing they really do not tolerate on the autobahn. They even have cameras that look for it.

As far as causes of death, I would rate alcohol, tiredness, carelessness, speed.

One of the most dangerous things you (or your family) can do is pull over on the side of the road. All of the drunks and people who are sleep deprived without fail drift in the direction they are looking atm. Its the reason drivers crash into police cars with a rear end full of lights ablaze.
 
My biggest fear on the road are SUVs with those soccerball magnets on them.
SUV + women on cell phone + screaming demons watching Sponge Bob on the overpriced DVD player = dangerous situation
 
OP: Inattentive Driving has NOTHING to do with what we were discussing and you know if you put up a poll that reflected what you really said you would look like a fool.

FACT: You said speeding is not dangerous, and most people on here, and the world disagree. You didn't say "less" dangerous, or "not the TRUE root of the problem. You said it's NOT dangerous.
 
Speeding has nothing to do with accidents or death as long as youa re still driving within your skill level. But speeding could mean 1 mph over the limit or 30 mph over the limit.

Inattentive driving causes far more accidents because that is bad regardless of the speed you are going.
 
Originally posted by: IamElectro
My biggest fear on the road are SUVs with those soccerball magnets on them.
SUV + women on cell phone + screaming demons watching Sponge Bob on the overpriced DVD player = dangerous situation

QFT
 
This is as silly as having a poll for which country is larger, China or Haiti. There have been many accident studies and there is a factual answer to this question out there.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
OP: Inattentive Driving has NOTHING to do with what we were discussing and you know if you put up a poll that reflected what you really said you would look like a fool.

FACT: You said speeding is not dangerous, and most people on here, and the world disagree. You didn't say "less" dangerous, or "not the TRUE root of the problem. You said it's NOT dangerous.
So what makes a car going 5MPH faster than another car more dangerous?
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
You said speeding was NOT dangerous. However others will vote for option 2 because technically a skilled driver can drive safely at any speed.

I don't agree with the you can drive safely at any speed if you have the skill, because there are too many variables beyond the driver's control such as animals, loose gravel, standing water, ice, and other drivers.
 
Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I don't agree with the you can drive safely at any speed if you have the skill, because there are too many variables beyond the driver's control such as animals, loose gravel, standing water, ice, and other drivers.

Well realistically there is no one on Earth that can drive 200mph on ice safely. I'm speaking theoretically, as the OP is.

TECHNICALLY if your skill is good enough, you can defend against any obstacle.

But realistically, there is no one on Earth with such a skill.

I was originally thinking on realistic terms, while the OP countered me with a "theoretical" argument. His poll also encourages non-realistic thinking. His rebuttle of my original statement is invalid because it's not in the same context as mine (his is theoretically, mind is realistic).
 
Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
You said speeding was NOT dangerous. However others will vote for option 2 because technically a skilled driver can drive safely at any speed.

I don't agree with the you can drive safely at any speed if you have the skill, because there are too many variables beyond the driver's control such as animals, loose gravel, standing water, ice, and other drivers.

How about:

Under many conditions (notably little to no traffic, milti-lane roads, and clear weather), traveling at approximately 100mph is reasonably safe.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I don't agree with the you can drive safely at any speed if you have the skill, because there are too many variables beyond the driver's control such as animals, loose gravel, standing water, ice, and other drivers.
Well realistically there is no one on Earth that can drive 200mph on ice safely. I'm speaking theoretically, as the OP is.

TECHNICALLY if your skill is good enough, you can defend against any obstacle.

But realistically, there is no one on Earth with such a skill.

I was originally thinking on realistic terms, while the OP countered me with a "theoretical" argument. His poll also encourages non-realistic thinking. His rebuttle of my original statement is invalid because it's not in the same context as mine (his is theoretically, mind is realistic).
My question is not theoretical and is the context of your thread. I'm still awaiting your answer.
 
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