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What is the "Left Wing" Agenda??? 8-18-05 Edit: No one has any idea

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Based on the number of threads lately and the Media calling the Left Wing Agenda can anyone say exactly what is the Left Wing Agenda???

Thanks

Same as the right wing agenda....to get their people elected and therby amass as much money and power as possible and for as long as possible. .

Ahh.. sensibility at last!

The goals are the same....the methods differ though.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
The same as it has been for the last 80 years: communism.

Just as the "right wing agenda" has been fascism for the last almost 60 years.
Rich Vs Poor, what about the Religion factor???
The Left is just as religious as the Right, they just don't like to admit it as many of them worship non-traditional gods like government, pseudo-science, and "the planet."


edit: and communism vs. fascism is not rich vs. poor. In America, it's more like urban vs. rural. Socialists vs. Nationalists. Economic class is not relevant between the major parties, Dave, and is a terrible strawman of yours. There are a great many rich Democrats and a great many poor Republicans.

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Tab

Most North Dakota's aren't poor, but the rate is increasing.

Just Keep voting Republican :thumbsup:

But.. that would make voters Republican, which would make them rich, according to your "logic." Are you even trying anymore?

Just to make a little note, our rich districts such as Rose Creek. We're talking about people living in houses 200k and up. Basically, these districts voted 100% for Kerry... 😉

Hey a North Dakotan.

$200K houses and up and voted Democrat???

What gives?

Where is the money coming from (I'll guess cattle) and there is no religion up there?
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Ok... from the perspective of someone who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative, this makes no sense.

Most people on the left that I know DON'T want everything in government control. They DON'T want the government spying on them via the PATRIOT act, they DON'T want the government telling them what they can and cannot watch or what behaviors they can and cannot engage in (so long as not destructive to other people), and they sure as hell DON'T think that government is the solution to everything.

No, what they do want is to continue their "right" to an abortion, tax the rich into poverty, and establish extravagant pyramid scheme style transfer payments, nationalizing everything they feel "entitled" to, from health care to cheap gas to internet access.

Ah gotcha, women should have no rights over theor own body.

The Rich shouldn't have to pay anything and only the rich deserve gas, Internet access and Health care access.

Yep thanks for summing up the Republican agenda quite well. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Tab
Just to make a little note, our rich districts such as Rose Creek. We're talking about people living in houses 200k and up. Basically, these districts voted 100% for Kerry... 😉

Hey a North Dakotan.

$200K houses and up and voted Democrat???

What gives?

Where is the money coming from (I'll guess cattle) and there is no religion up there?
Dave, where I live, the "rich" are more likely to vote Democrat than the "poor."
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Tab
Just to make a little note, our rich districts such as Rose Creek. We're talking about people living in houses 200k and up. Basically, these districts voted 100% for Kerry... 😉

Hey a North Dakotan.

$200K houses and up and voted Democrat???

What gives?

Where is the money coming from (I'll guess cattle) and there is no religion up there?
Dave, where I live, the "rich" are more likely to vote Democrat than the "poor."

I've heard and seen some strange goings on Political wise out of that area. Just to the north of you it is so insane there has been talk of splitting Washington into two States. One State Liberal (Coast) and the inner part Republican.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Tab

Most North Dakota's aren't poor, but the rate is increasing.

Just Keep voting Republican :thumbsup:

But.. that would make voters Republican, which would make them rich, according to your "logic." Are you even trying anymore?

Just to make a little note, our rich districts such as Rose Creek. We're talking about people living in houses 200k and up. Basically, these districts voted 100% for Kerry... 😉

Hey a North Dakotan.

$200K houses and up and voted Democrat???

What gives?

Where is the money coming from (I'll guess cattle) and there is no religion up there?

What gives? They've got a brain and they know Bush is a fvcking fraud!

North Dakota isn't that different, yes we've got a lot of farms. Fargo is just like any other City though... North Dakota, is VERY religious though. I just didn't suck it up like in everyone else when I went to Church.
 
Originally posted by: TabFargo is just like any other City though.
Keep telling yourself that. 😉

LOL, I've been through Fargo many times. The way I see it it's a large town, not a small city.
 
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Ok... from the perspective of someone who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative, this makes no sense.

Most people on the left that I know DON'T want everything in government control. They DON'T want the government spying on them via the PATRIOT act, they DON'T want the government telling them what they can and cannot watch or what behaviors they can and cannot engage in (so long as not destructive to other people), and they sure as hell DON'T think that government is the solution to everything.

I have yet to encounter anyone who believes that Science can solve everything. Science can solve a lot of problems, but Science also needs to be used responsibly.

Overpopulation IS a problem. People ARE a part of Earth's ecology, and large numbers of people who consume and use resources are causing massive deforrestation and the accumulation of large amounts of waste (Cell phones, batteries, etc).

Frankly, these stereotypes are naive and stupid.

:thumbsup: Glad to se there are still normal people left. :beer:
 
A bit Off Topic but this article just came out and is for those in here that did not believe me about the 3 to 6 killings everyday here in New Orleans:

8-18-2005 Murder Numbers Creeping Up in New Orleans

NEW ORLEANS - Last year, university researchers conducted an experiment in which police fired 700 blank rounds in a New Orleans neighborhood in a single afternoon. No one called to report the gunfire.

New Orleans residents are reluctant to come forward as witnesses, fearing retaliation. And experts say that is one of several reasons homicides are on the rise in the Big Easy at a time when other cities are seeing their murder rates plummet to levels not seen in decades.

The city's murder rate is still far lower than a decade ago, when New Orleans was the country's murder capital. But in recent years, the city's homicide rate has climbed again to nearly 10 times the national average.

"We're going in the reverse of 46 of the top 50 cities in the United States. Almost everyone is going down, but we're going up," said criminologist Peter Scharf. "There is something going on in New Orleans that is not going on elsewhere."

Homicides hit their historic peak here in 1994, with 421 dead ? more per-capita than any other U.S. city that year. Within just five years, the number was slashed by nearly two-thirds, to 159, as homicides plummeted nationally.

But by last year, the number in New Orleans had crept back up to 265. There had been 192 this year by mid-August, compared with 169 at the same time in 2004. Adjusted for the city's size, those numbers dwarf murder rates in Washington, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City.


 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Ok... from the perspective of someone who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative, this makes no sense.

Most people on the left that I know DON'T want everything in government control. They DON'T want the government spying on them via the PATRIOT act, they DON'T want the government telling them what they can and cannot watch or what behaviors they can and cannot engage in (so long as not destructive to other people), and they sure as hell DON'T think that government is the solution to everything.

No, what they do want is to continue their "right" to an abortion, tax the rich into poverty, and establish extravagant pyramid scheme style transfer payments, nationalizing everything they feel "entitled" to, from health care to cheap gas to internet access.

Great. So in this country, the idiots on the "left" want to tell me how to spend my money, while the jerks on the "right" want to tell me how to live my fvcking life. You didn't even bother to refute any of my examples of the current right wing government becoming ever more intrusive in people's lives.

All I gotta say is that these fvckers, no matter who tehy are, better stay the HELL away from me. I don't want your God-damn bible state, and you'll never get my guns while you are still alive. I'm sick of Social Security (the greatest Piramid scheme in history), corporate welfare, roving wiretaps, and wars based on the lies of politicians.

:|
 
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Ok... from the perspective of someone who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative, this makes no sense.

Most people on the left that I know DON'T want everything in government control. They DON'T want the government spying on them via the PATRIOT act, they DON'T want the government telling them what they can and cannot watch or what behaviors they can and cannot engage in (so long as not destructive to other people), and they sure as hell DON'T think that government is the solution to everything.

No, what they do want is to continue their "right" to an abortion, tax the rich into poverty, and establish extravagant pyramid scheme style transfer payments, nationalizing everything they feel "entitled" to, from health care to cheap gas to internet access.

Great. So in this country, the idiots on the "left" want to tell me how to spend my money, while the jerks on the "right" want to tell me how to live my fvcking life. You didn't even bother to refute any of my examples of the current right wing government becoming ever more intrusive in people's lives.

All I gotta say is that these fvckers, no matter who tehy are, better stay the HELL away from me. I don't want your God-damn bible state, and you'll never get my guns while you are still alive. I'm sick of Social Security (the greatest Piramid scheme in history), corporate welfare, roving wiretaps, and wars based on the lies of politicians.

:|

Damn straight, that's my thoughts exactly. Both sides want control over you, just in different ways. Fvck both sides.
 
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Ok... from the perspective of someone who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative, this makes no sense.

Most people on the left that I know DON'T want everything in government control. They DON'T want the government spying on them via the PATRIOT act, they DON'T want the government telling them what they can and cannot watch or what behaviors they can and cannot engage in (so long as not destructive to other people), and they sure as hell DON'T think that government is the solution to everything.

No, what they do want is to continue their "right" to an abortion, tax the rich into poverty, and establish extravagant pyramid scheme style transfer payments, nationalizing everything they feel "entitled" to, from health care to cheap gas to internet access.

Great. So in this country, the idiots on the "left" want to tell me how to spend my money, while the jerks on the "right" want to tell me how to live my fvcking life. You didn't even bother to refute any of my examples of the current right wing government becoming ever more intrusive in people's lives.
:|

Take a look at how the Democrats voted on the Patriot Acts I and II. And who's telling you what you can or cannot watch?

 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Ok... from the perspective of someone who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative, this makes no sense.

Most people on the left that I know DON'T want everything in government control. They DON'T want the government spying on them via the PATRIOT act, they DON'T want the government telling them what they can and cannot watch or what behaviors they can and cannot engage in (so long as not destructive to other people), and they sure as hell DON'T think that government is the solution to everything.

No, what they do want is to continue their "right" to an abortion, tax the rich into poverty, and establish extravagant pyramid scheme style transfer payments, nationalizing everything they feel "entitled" to, from health care to cheap gas to internet access.

Ah gotcha, women should have no rights over theor own body.

The Rich shouldn't have to pay anything and only the rich deserve gas, Internet access and Health care access.

Yep thanks for summing up the Republican agenda quite well. :thumbsup:

everyone wants a free ride dont they?

whatever happened to hard work and ingenuity?
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Great. So in this country, the idiots on the "left" want to tell me how to spend my money, while the jerks on the "right" want to tell me how to live my fvcking life. You didn't even bother to refute any of my examples of the current right wing government becoming ever more intrusive in people's lives.

All I gotta say is that these fvckers, no matter who tehy are, better stay the HELL away from me. I don't want your God-damn bible state, and you'll never get my guns while you are still alive. I'm sick of Social Security (the greatest Piramid scheme in history), corporate welfare, roving wiretaps, and wars based on the lies of politicians.

:|
Damn straight, that's my thoughts exactly. Both sides want control over you, just in different ways. Fvck both sides.
:thumbsup:
 
It is in the best interest of the Republicans (or any political party) to define their opponents as well as limit their opponents' response.

We aren't talking much about the Bush agenda in America today althought it is quite glaringly apparent. Corporatization, war, and profiteering. But when I try to define the current Republican agenda as such I'm called a Bush basher. :roll:

Currently the Republicans have free riegn over the agenda debate and that's why the Democratic agenda seems so ill defined. They have no control over media to present their agenda, the Republicans are succeeding in defining the Democrats as well as limiting their response.
 
Originally posted by: BBond
It is in the best interest of the Republicans (or any political party) to define their opponents as well as limit their opponents' response.

We aren't talking much about the Bush agenda in America today althought it is quite glaringly apparent. Corporatization, war, and profiteering. But when I try to define the current Republican agenda as such I'm called a Bush basher. :roll:

Currently the Republicans have free riegn over the agenda debate and that's why the Democratic agenda seems so ill defined. They have no control over media to present their agenda, the Republicans are succeeding in defining the Democrats as well as limiting their response.

Well said and BFT :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
The fact that we can't even define the Left Wing Agenda, says a lot about the Left. 😕

BFT

That pretty much sums it up and why I asked the question.

Excellent responses everyone and we have gone in circles and gotten no where.

No wonder the GOP has Dictatorship type control over the U.S.
 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Lets just get this straight, liberals aren't left wing.

Don't think TOO much.

Tone it down.

Vic might actually start thinking. The easiest thing in the world is to say 'fvck both sides'. The hardest thing is to come up with a solution. And anarchy isn't the solution America needs right now 'Libertarians'.
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Lets just get this straight, liberals aren't left wing.

Don't think TOO much.

Tone it down.

Vic might actually start thinking. The easiest thing in the world is to say 'fvck both sides'. The hardest thing is to come up with a solution. And anarchy isn't the solution America needs right now 'Libertarians'.

You're right! What the US needs right now is a hackneyed communist leader. 😀

Are you offering any of these 'solutions' in this thread? I'm thinking that saying "fvck both sides" is actually the second easiest thing to do..
 
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