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What is the Future of the G.O.P.?

88keys

88keys

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I think the circus that is the G.O.P. presidential playing field and Trump's surge in popularity is evidence that the G.O.P (as we know it) is throwing it's final death flops. Nobody is going to come out of the G.O.P. primaries looking good and will probably have so much dirt on them that they'll never stand a chance with the general electorate which they have already distanced themselves from.

What could they possibly do at this point to to make themselves viable for the presidency? They would need to come much closer to the middle to even stand a chance and by doing that they would alienate themselves from their base. Someone like Rand Paul could attract young voters but his association with the fringe right (Alex Jones.... yeah) would destroy his chances at winning a general election. Bush? lol. He'll probably get the nomination but he's not winning the general election. Trump? Well he had better hope he doesn't make it too far because I guarantee that man has more than a few skeletons in his closet. Infact it's probably more like a crypt.


The electoral college is also very much slanted in favor of democrats and is poised to remain that way in the foreseeable future. As far as toss up states go. All a democrat needs is Ohio and virtually any other toss up state and victory is theirs. As for mid term elections the G.O.P. owes much of their success to gerrymandering.

How would the G.O.P turn this around? Can they; or will a new party emerge?
 
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They're going to do an even better job at making the Dem candidate look even worse than themselves. Doesn't matter what it takes, how many lies they have to come up with, how many lives they have to ruin.

If you think Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was bad, well then hang on to yer lugnuts, because the worse the Repubs have to offer in the way of a candidate, the worse they're going to behave to get the win. 😉
 
Yeah, I agree with Tweaker. The OP is counting out what the GOP is historically best at.

And the dem candidate is, after all, someone with a long political history, providing lots of fodder. And she's connected to her husband who has a history of ethical problems. I don't think the Benghazi stuff will get any more traction in this election than it did in 2012, but I'm sure the GOP will win some points going negative on HRC.
 
Probably the liberal brain defect that leads liberals to feel so superior to conservatives for obvious reasons, will also mean that liberals will fail to see the danger that conservatives represent. They will not be able to credit that people will vote for those nut bags in great numbers because they appeal to the sickness of fear and will go right on winning elections. The result will be what we see, political paralysis until they get their way followed by the decline of out civilization. They will destroy the American team for the sake of the Republican party. The defect they have is profoundly dangerous. But a black swan event is always possible.
 
oh good another one of these liberal circle jerk threads.

If the GOP is as dead as you make them out to be, shouldn't you be happy?
 
woolfe9998 said:
Yeah, I agree with Tweaker. The OP is counting out what the GOP is historically best at.

And the dem candidate is, after all, someone with a long political history, providing lots of fodder. And she's connected to her husband who has a history of ethical problems. I don't think the Benghazi stuff will get any more traction in this election than it did in 2012, but I'm sure the GOP will win some points going negative on HRC.
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They might but I doubt it will go very far. They drove Benghazi into the ground too far. Harping on it from this point on will just make them look even crazier.
The whol swift boat thing barely worked for Bush in 2004. He didn't exactly attain a comfortable victory. Infact, his father was the last G.O.P. president to win by more than one state in 1988.


Indus said:
What if it's Bernie?
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Unlikely however he could shake things up if he runs as an independent.

John Connor said:
Hitlery has lost points in key swing states. How's that shit work?
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oh good another one of these liberal circle jerk threads.
I'll be happy to quote this post in 18 months to make you look like a moron.
michal1980 said:
If the GOP is as dead as you make them out to be, shouldn't you be happy?
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Not really because democrats can only owe their success to the fact that they haven't gone insane.
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michal1980 said:
oh good another one of these liberal circle jerk threads.

If the GOP is as dead as you make them out to be, shouldn't you be happy?
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No, we're not happy, because our goal isn't the destruction of our perceived enemies. That's a conservative goal. Our goal is to bring you idiots back to sanity so we don't have to hold our noses and vote Democrat because there is no other sane option. Your collective idiocy makes it easier for Democrats to be shittier and shittier and still remain the best choice.
 
88keys said:
I think the circus that is the G.O.P. presidential playing field and Trump's surge in popularity is evidence that the G.O.P (as we know it) is throwing it's final death flops. Nobody is going to come out of the G.O.P. primaries looking good and will probably have so much dirt on them that they'll never stand a chance with the general electorate which they have already distanced themselves from.

What could they possibly do at this point to to make themselves viable for the presidency? They would need to come much closer to the middle to even stand a chance and by doing that they would alienate themselves from their base. Someone like Rand Paul could attract young voters but his association with the fringe right (Alex Jones.... yeah) would destroy his chances at winning a general election. Bush? lol. He'll probably get the nomination but he's not winning the general election. Trump? Well he had better hope he doesn't make it too far because I guarantee that man has more than a few skeletons in his closet. Infact it's probably more like a crypt.


The electoral college is also very much slanted in favor of democrats and is poised to remain that way in the foreseeable future. As far as toss up states go. All a democrat needs is Ohio and virtually any other toss up state and victory is theirs. As for mid term elections the G.O.P. owes much of their success to gerrymandering.

How would the G.O.P turn this around? Can they; or will a new party emerge?
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If I had a dollar for every thread that talked about the death of the GOP over the past decade. I would have a nice pile of cash.
 
dank69 said:
No, we're not happy, because our goal isn't the destruction of our perceived enemies. That's a conservative goal. Our goal is to bring you idiots back to sanity so we don't have to hold our noses and vote Democrat because there is no other sane option. Your collective idiocy makes it easier for Democrats to be shittier and shittier and still remain the best choice.
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Thank you for that. Well said.
 
Genx87 said:
If I had a dollar for every thread that talked about the death of the GOP over the past decade. I would have a nice pile of cash.
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IMO, the GOP isn't going to die and I think no one here in this forum thinks that. It's the knee jerk reaction to swing further to the right every time it, as an entity, feels threatened that's transforming it into a whole 'nother being is what, IMO, most folks are referring to.

As well you know, in nature, evolution usually improves the survivability of a species. Not so with the Repub Party it seems. Rather, the party inexplicably has an urge to further isolate itself so as to purify its genes of the very mutations that will allow it to grow stronger and more adaptable to its surroundings.

The party is becoming too selective in how it wants to identify itself. That factor is transforming it into an rigid uncompromising entity that prevents it from being flexible enough to keep it representative of a majority that will support it, as it formerly was at one time in recent history. This is why it's compelled to employ gerrymandering, restrictive voting rights acts, union busting tactics and other such means to remain viable.

Eh, maybe this all part and parcel of how the party needs to swing a 180 degree turn back to being the formidable cunning and clever force it was in the recent past.

And yes, I do realize it's just an personal observation of mine and it's definitely not backed by any manner of empirically verified studies, but I felt it needed to be said anyway. 😉
 
As long as the dems keep letting the scum rise to the top, the future of the GOP is secure. And it doesnt hurt to have a dim witted public that doesnt realize both these parties are fatally broken to the point where neither should be supported by any reasonable sane person.
 
The GOP isn't going anywhere - they embody the very essence of the conservative brain defect: sensationalize, lie and completely over blow the simplest of things that pose little to NO danger whatsoever - which is what their followers are all about.

Oh, and as long as rape culture, racism deniers, slavery deniers and women abusers are among the American people, the GOP will have support.
 
dank69 said:
No, we're not happy, because our goal isn't the destruction of our perceived enemies. That's a conservative goal. Our goal is to bring you idiots back to sanity so we don't have to hold our noses and vote Democrat because there is no other sane option. Your collective idiocy makes it easier for Democrats to be shittier and shittier and still remain the best choice.
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Oh sweet Jesus Hume Christ on a cracker, so much this.
 
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Newell Steamer said:
The GOP isn't going anywhere - they embody the very essence of the conservative brain defect: sensationalize, lie and completely over blow the simplest of things that pose little to NO danger whatsoever - which is what their followers are all about.

Oh, and as long as rape culture, racism deniers, slavery deniers and women abusers are among the American people, the GOP will have support.
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Women abusers huh? You got some evidence...no you wont. But hey, the internet is an amazing place.

http://www.rohrbaughassociates.net/pdfs/same_sex.pdf

Initial research suggests that violence occurs at the same rate (12–50%) in same-gender
couples as it does in cross-gender couples
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Weird, I did not realize that so many in the gay community were GOP supporters. I mean, if women abusers are GOP supports, and lesbians have a higher rate of domestic abuse, then lesbians are more likely to be in the GOP. Wow, who knew?
 
This is why it's great to be a republican. We have more opportunities for schadenfreude.

It's just unthinkable to democrats that anyone might vote republican, and so democrats take losses on the chin.

Look at Abwx's reaction when Walker wasn't recalled. It's around here somewhere.
 
dank69 said:
No, we're not happy, because our goal isn't the destruction of our perceived enemies. That's a conservative goal. Our goal is to bring you idiots back to sanity so we don't have to hold our noses and vote Democrat because there is no other sane option. Your collective idiocy makes it easier for Democrats to be shittier and shittier and still remain the best choice.
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Why are you electing bad people then? If the GOP is so screwed up, should you on the left be free to elect what commie you want?
 
realibrad said:
You want the word to stay the way it is? A "conservative" is someone who wants things not to change. I like change. I like what change brings.
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With the occasional exception, like how the Repub Party got jacked by their immaculately conceived Tea Party step children, change is good.

Yes, I've said it before and I agree, very much so. :thumbsup:
 
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