What is the Future of the G.O.P.?

[dank69]

Why are you electing bad people then? If the GOP is so screwed up, should you on the left be free to elect what commie you want?

I'll try to explain it as simply as possible. I elect bad people to keep your worse people from doing even more damage.

As for freedom to elect "commies," yes, everyone should be free to vote however they want.

 

[michal1980]

I'll try to explain it as simply as possible. I elect bad people to keep your worse people from doing even more damage.

As for freedom to elect "commies," yes, everyone should be free to vote however they want.

but why arent you electing 'good' people?

Why are you blaming the republicans for the people you elect? How is it the republicans fault for who runs against them?

 

[88keys]

If I had a dollar for every thread that talked about the death of the GOP over the past decade. I would have a nice pile of cash.

The G.O.P. will likely stick around, but the G.O.P. that you and I know today probably won't. Both parties have and will continue to re-brand themselves with changing times and such. 100 years ago, Democrats used to have the south vote.

It is often that 2 term presidents set lasting political trends within their party and the public in general. Reagen essentially set the neo conservative trend that continues within the G.O.P. to this day. The problem is that many neo conservative polices are no longer popular.
If anything the G.O.P. would need a new front man to change their image. They would need a president, but that doesn't look very likely to happen anytime soon. Bush may not look very menacing compared to The Donald, but he has very strong political connections through his family that run very very deep. It has been over 40 years since the G.O.P. has won a presidential election without a Bush on the ticket.


The other thing is that I can imagine alot of people being disenfranchised in another Bush vs. Clinton election in 2016, and if they country goes into recession by that time; it could sow the seeds for a viable third party to emerge.... (Bernie?)

 

[soundforbjt]

but why arent you electing 'good' people?

Why are you blaming the republicans for the people you elect? How is it the republicans fault for who runs against them?

Money talks on both sides.

 

[dank69]

but why arent you electing 'good' people?

Why are you blaming the republicans for the people you elect? How is it the republicans fault for who runs against them?

I already explained this to you, twice now. I can't make it any simpler than I already have.

Your GOP is insane. Your economic policies are colossal failures by every metric. Instead of changing your policies to something that actually works, or even at least trying new policies, your GOP stubbornly clings to the same bad policies. They want to continue to enact the policies that everyone knows will destroy our economy the same way they have for the past 35 years.

EVERYONE knows this, except for "fiscal conservatives" who refuse to accept the evidence that cannot be denied without extreme mental gymnastics. So the rest of us are left with a choice:

1) Vote for Republicans who will treat our economy the way Jeffrey Dahmer treated his victims

2) Vote for Democrats who will pay their friends 50X the going rate for Band-Aids to apply to the multiple stab wounds the last Republicans left on our bleeding-out economy

If Republicans decided to actually get into the business of attempting to fix the economy instead of shredding it even more, the Democrats would be forced to actually try harder.

 

[michal1980]

I already explained this to you, twice now. I can't make it any simpler than I already have.

Your GOP is insane. Your economic policies are colossal failures by every metric. Instead of changing your policies to something that actually works, or even at least trying new policies, your GOP stubbornly clings to the same bad policies. They want to continue to enact the policies that everyone knows will destroy our economy the same way they have for the past 35 years.

EVERYONE knows this, except for "fiscal conservatives" who refuse to accept the evidence that cannot be denied without extreme mental gymnastics. So the rest of us are left with a choice:

1) Vote for Republicans who will treat our economy the way Jeffrey Dahmer treated his victims

2) Vote for Democrats who will pay their friends 50X the going rate for Band-Aids to apply to the multiple stab wounds the last Republicans left on our bleeding-out economy

If Republicans decided to actually get into the business of attempting to fix the economy instead of shredding it even more, the Democrats would be forced to actually try harder.

No you haven't explained it.

You keep saying that you are electing people that are bad, or less bad then republicans.

But:
1) you would never vote republican
2) you claim that republicans are un-electable.


If republicans are currently un-electable as you claim. Then the only people that can be elected are democrats. And the people voting in democratic primaries are overwhelming democrats, (ie people like you)

So therefore, if you dont like the current democrats you are electing then the fault lies with you and the democratic party. And it has nothing to do with republicans.

 

[realibrad]

I never understood that. Change should only occur if it's for the better. Change isn't always good.

But it very often is. If the net outcome of change is positive, then I am pro change. Until such a time where change is a net negative, then I will be for change.

I can say that from the history I know, trying to conserve has been a net negative. There might be some good parts, but on the whole it has hurt far more than its helped. I like progress, and inherently to progress is change. You cannot progress without it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm still registered as a republican. I think I'll vote in the republican primary and I'm voting for Trump!!!

 

[senseamp]

Winning candidates are the least of GOP's problems.
Their biggest problems are on the policy side.
Economic policy = supply side trickle down + deregulation = failure.
Foreign policy = invade first, ask questions later = failure.
Health care policy = repeal and replace (with what, they have no clue) = failure.
The party simply doesn't have any ideas except old ones that have been demonstrated to be failures.

 

[dank69]

No you haven't explained it.

You keep saying that you are electing people that are bad, or less bad then republicans.

But:
1) you would never vote republican
2) you claim that republicans are un-electable.


If republicans are currently un-electable as you claim. Then the only people that can be elected are democrats. And the people voting in democratic primaries are overwhelming democrats, (ie people like you)

So therefore, if you dont like the current democrats you are electing then the fault lies with you and the democratic party. And it has nothing to do with republicans.

Wrong. With decisions like CU even the Democrats are corrupted by too much money in politics. Who pushed for CU and similar deregulation of campaign donation? You idiots.

 

[Moonbeam]

This is why it's great to be a republican. We have more opportunities for schadenfreude.

It's just unthinkable to democrats that anyone might vote republican, and so democrats take losses on the chin.

Look at Abwx's reaction when Walker wasn't recalled. It's around here somewhere.

Exactly. Liberals think rationally and can't credit the power of delusional thinking. They can't comprehend how people can be so blind because they have more they aren't as equipped to allow their feelings to blind them to reality.

Even I who knows fact from fiction instantly, possessing intuitive certitude, can't imagine how the rest of you conservative defectives can get everything so so so so wrong. I suspect the difference is that knowing I feel worthless and it just a lie I was taught means I don't have an ego to protect. How worthless you sad sacks feel is something I already have accepted as the truth of my inner condition.

 

[TheSlamma]

I give them till the boomers die out and they disappear.

 

[Moonbeam]

I give them till the boomers die out and they disappear.

You're dreaming. The conservative brain defect is a vital survival adaption in non- typically modern situations. I just saw a story about a lion roaming around in some city and folk running away from it. The advise of an animal specialists was sought and he cautioned against running, stating it is much safer to stand your ground, scream, and appear threatening. The news person, a young lady, said she would run anyway.