What is the deal with noone wanting IBM Drives anymore???

[rh71]

Everyone's mileage varies. I've had WDs fail on me and I just RMAd them for new ones. What do I do? I depend on the WD replacements just as much. Why? Because everyone has bad days. After hearing this, do people still go buy WD drives? Of course they do. Why? Because everyone has bad days. Someone's bad experience shouldn't ruin it for everyone. You can see many people here have been fine with brands while others haven't. They ALL fail at some point. Some people just need to quit whining.

 

[Braves]

honestly i don't even know if I got a good IBM drive or a bad one. My first computer was a Compaq Presario with a 1.2 gig hard drive made by western digital, 5200 rpms. I bought that computer in 95 and had it till summer of 01. Newegg had some IBM drives for cheap and there were some good reviews at the time so I bought my IBM 7200 40giger GXP. My old hard drive could barely run Win98 and MS Office without running out of space so there couldn't be any problems. My new one has some lag sometimes, it's not as fast as I would expect from new technology, and occasionally the computer would freeze and I'm 99.9% sure it was because of the hard drive. But this happens extremely rarely and my computer is still faster/stabler then any computer you'll ever buy from Best Buy, and much cheaper =/

 

[bmd]

Originally posted by: rh71
Everyone's mileage varies. I've had WDs fail on me and I just RMAd them for new ones. What do I do? I depend on the WD replacements just as much. Why? Because everyone has bad days. After hearing this, do people still go buy WD drives? Of course they do. Why? Because everyone has bad days. Someone's bad experience shouldn't ruin it for everyone. You can see many people here have been fine with brands while others haven't. They ALL fail at some point. Some people just need to quit whining.

Exactly. If stuff works for you, feel free to stick with it. I've never had a problem with an IBM drive so far, so I'll keep using em until something happens to persuade me otherwise. If you've never had a problem with a Maxtor / WD / Seagate etc more power to you, just use what seems to work for you.

 

[BlueIce]

Had a 30gb died on me. Death by whining clicks!
I got it to boot one last time to save to another drive.
Sold the replacement RMA for someone else to deal with...never even opened it.

 

[Maleficus]

Yea i thought i was lucky also until about 2 weeks ago when my drive began failing then finally did poop out on me

 

[Dhruv]

I have the 60GXP series. My drive runs fine, i run it at ATA 100 w/o a hitch. It did however, get noiser after about a month of use. but so far no issues that affect performance. Seagates are my favorite but their access time was a little slower and i wanted the fastest and at that time this was it so i bought it. I'm not a WD fan, even tho some ppl here are. I've actually had a lot of bad experience with WDC drives. Seagates, Maxtor, and IBMS are for me, although after all the reports i've heard of IBM i might be a little reluctant to make that my next HD purchase.

edit: ATA 100

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: Dhruv
I have the 60GXP series. My drive runs fine, i run it at ATA 133 w/o a hitch. It did however, get noiser after about a month of use. but so far no issues that affect performance. Seagates are my favorite but their access time was a little slower and i wanted the fastest and at that time this was it so i bought it. I'm not a WD fan, even tho some ppl here are. I've actually had a lot of bad experience with WDC drives. Seagates, Maxtor, and IBMS are for me, although after all the reports i've heard of IBM i might be a little reluctant to make that my next HD purchase.

No you don't. The drive doesn't support ATA133.

 

[HiTek21]

Had a 40GB 60GXP drive for over a year never had any probs with it, seeing as how all these failures are comming up I decided to sell and buy Seagate Barracuda IV

 

[Dhruv]

Originally posted by: HiTek21
Had a 40GB 60GXP drive for over a year never had any probs with it, seeing as how all these failures are comming up I decided to sell and buy Seagate Barracuda IV

too bad i never see any hot deals on the Seagates. The B4 is the one i want to get heard it has really fast disk acess speeds.

 

[Mrburns2007]

Western Digital 8 meg buffer is the hot ones these days although Maxtor has a new 8 meg buffer model with SATA 150 coming soon.


I've had all makes and models die out or become trouble so it seems to happen to all of them. I would only buy a hard drive with a long warranty on it.

 

[Lars]

No problems with my 120GB 120GXP. System is running 24/7.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Another victim of the IBM GXP

I'm also a recent victim after 2+ years. I just got my drive back after shipping it 2 months ago. I'll never buy another IBM now. Cross ship like everyone else!!!:disgust:

 

[AzNmAnJLH]

What is your hd of choice? Mine is WD

 

[Haircut]

I have been using my 75GXP for over two years now without any problems.
Hearing about how others have fared with IBM drives has made me a little wary though and I keep all my data backed up very regularly now.

I'll probably be buying a WD 1200JB pretty soon anyway.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: AzNmAnJLH
What is your hd of choice? Mine is WD

This time around it was WD. I try to get the fastest available.

 

[Amused]

Count me in for perfectly reliable 4 75GXPs and 2 60GXPs in various systems all still going strong (many are now in systems I've built for friends and family as hand-me-downs since I upgraded to 4 WD1000JBs).

The 4 75GXPs and 2 60GXPs ran in RAID-0 arrays when I had them.

Of course, all have always had active cooling and all are left running 24/7... so that may be why they are all fine.

I seriously believe the main problem was a lack of active cooling.

 

[Red Dawn]

seriously believe the main problem was a lack of active cooling.

I agree. Fortunately Seagate Barracuda's, Maxtors and the WD's don't seem to have this problem. With so many today looking for smaller quieter systems it would seem that IBM would be a poor choice and if you are looking for a Server Solution you'd be crazy not to go with a SCSI Drive (more robust and a higher fault tolerence)

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Count me in for perfectly reliable 4 75GXPs and 2 60GXPs in various systems all still going strong (many are now in systems I've built for friends and family as hand-me-downs since I upgraded to 4 WD1000JBs).

The 4 75GXPs and 2 60GXPs ran in RAID-0 arrays when I had them.

Of course, all have always had active cooling and all are left running 24/7... so that may be why they are all fine.

I seriously believe the main problem was a lack of active cooling.

Could be the reason. I've had a 75GXP for a couple of years without a problem; it was installed with a hard drive cooler. No particular reason why I installed the cooler other than I thought it might be a good idea at the time, the cooler was inexpensive, and because the box is running an AMD cpu and I wanted as much airflow as possible to keep things cool overall. Now I'm glad I did.

 

[Shockwave]

I had a 30 gigger GXP go bad on me, the replacement has ran strong. I'd buy another, BUT, I WOULDNT buy another for a data drive.

On the Ford comment. I HATE my Ford. I like Ford in general, but mine is havin a REALLY annoying problem of occasionally cutting out. In fact, just 2 nights ago i shot a hole in traffic, only to have it hesitate at that moment. Suddenly, i find myself in a lane with a 2.5 ton vehicle that aint moving and traffic comin at me at 40 MPH. Only thing I could do was curse and jam the throttle and hope for the best. Thank God the 5.4 decided to open up, and fast, or I woulda been callin my insurance agent. Damned thing :|

 

[bizmark]

A friend of mine had a 60GB GXP fail on him. He hadn't backed it up, and he had that sucker full of stuff. He has a Dell, the HD came with it... I think it was the largest HD available at the time he bought it. HD failure is simply not something that normal people (i.e. non-techs) think about. I bet you that 90% of computer owners have one HD and no system for backing stuff up. And normally this works just fine, because modern HDs simply don't fail that often. Except in the case of these IBM drives.

 

[Pepsi90919]

my seagate has an MTBF of 600,000 hours which is 68 years. that's enough time i think.

 

[murphy55d]

My 40gb deskstar has been very reliable. No problems at all.

 

[Red Dawn]

murphy55d

My 40gb deskstar has been very reliable. No problems at all.

Well now that you've posted that expect Murphy's law to set in

 

[ultimatebob]

Where's your proof that 90% had no problems? Oh, you don't really have any, do you? Even if you did, a 10% failure rate is still pretty durn high. I doubt any other hard drive manufacturer would consider that acceptable.

Well, from personal experience, I've had about a 1% yearly failure rate on IBM hard drives, which is on par with the other models that I've used. I'm a systems administrator, so I have a server room and about 400 office systems to take care of. It also means that I have a LOT of hard drives to take care of, so I probably know what I'm talking about. Most of the drives that this place uses are IBM, although we have lots of Seagate, Quantum, WD, and Maxtor drives as well.

The 10% estimate that I came up with represents the number of customers (that I know of) who have had problems with their IBM hard drives. I don't keep exact numbers on this stuff, but I've met just as many people who have had problems with Seagate and Quantum drives than I have with IBM models.

 

[Eli]

Pretty much been covered by others... They had some bad QC a while back, or something.. and some drives slipped out that just didn't last long at all..

I'm pretty sure I heard my IBM 75GXP make a strange clicking noise the other day. God, I hope not. That would really suck. The drive has been on basically 24/7 since I got it 11/22/00. That also means it's under warranty for over another year, I think.

Heh.. that's some 15,000 hours.