What is the best state in the Union?

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davmat787

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Washington (home state) is really great but we'd be the best with a better education system, especially college. The Seattle area has only one four year university, and it doesn't serve the local residents or economy that well (they had cutbacks in the computer science department, for example, in one of the best tech industries in the country).

All the other state universities are spread out across the state in middle of nowhere towns.. makes no sense.

Once the light rail network is done ~2020-2025 I think, and if we funded an MIT-like university (I think the economy here would sustain it and attract a lot of talent), then we'd be the best. Until then I've got to think Massachusetts or somewhere is better.

Isn't Seattle U a 4 year? What about PLU and UPS? I realize some of those are outside Seattle a bit, and some are religious based. As for the other major Universities being spread about the state, I am glad that is the case. Kids need to get away from home during college, and since most come from the Seattle/King County area, it is good there are choices out there. I went to CWU fwiw, and loved the Ellensburg area every minute I was there. Remember too, most of these uni's are 100 or so years old, so it was more important they were spread out.

Right now the major uni's are spread perfectly: Seattle (UW), northwest population center (WWU), central wa (CWU), eastern WA (WSU, EWU, Gonzaga). The southwest population center is served by whatever is in portcouver.

One of the great aspects of WA is the incredible diversity in the land. We have coastal, inland sea/sound, islands, alpine, rain forest, high desert, .etc all in one state. I could show people pics from eastern WA and they would guess they are looking at AZ. WA is also by far the most forested state in the union. Couple that with the historical importance of Salmon and environmental issues tend to be important.

fivethirtyeight.com had an interesting write up on WA. Politically, WA is an interesting case. Very socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. In fact, taxes and other fiscal issues could cost the D's some seats, but the R's here have to be different than they are nationally. Good read if you have a few minutes, a few other interesting quirks are pointed out.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/washington-state-womens-rights-and-big-cities/

If I had to live somewhere else, Montana would be my vote.

/homer
 
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The state of Misery..i mean Missouri.

Actually New Hampshire is pretty cool even though ive never been lol
 

hal2kilo

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Washington (home state) is really great but we'd be the best with a better education system, especially college. The Seattle area has only one four year university, and it doesn't serve the local residents or economy that well (they had cutbacks in the computer science department, for example, in one of the best tech industries in the country).

All the other state universities are spread out across the state in middle of nowhere towns.. makes no sense.

Once the light rail network is done ~2020-2025 I think, and if we funded an MIT-like university (I think the economy here would sustain it and attract a lot of talent), then we'd be the best. Until then I've got to think Massachusetts or somewhere is better.

After growing up in Virginia (DC Suburbs), going to school in Atlanta (not really Georgia), working for Motorola in Florida and Chicago (not really Illinois) working for my current employer in Virginia again, then Connecticut, then Washington, then California, now back to Washington, I say Washington.

Liberal Seattle keeps the wackos in the state in check.

On the other hand, I don't think Ensley's going to get elected Gov though this time around. He's running a really lame campaign and I think the state's had it with years of Dem control and the budget being as screwed as it is.
 

Steeplerot

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texas because we have real chili.

You can tell, with all the "hot air" the residents are full of.

I do love the spicy chili though, but sorry, New Mexico does southwest food far better. And California has the best real Mexcian food.

Texas but has the best...funnel cakes? (and toofless grins)

I will ship a Texan a monster San Francisco Mission Style Burrito if someone trades me a hot funnel cake with those giant strawberries. How about a truce? :whiste:
 
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D-Man

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Illinois Four former Illinois governors have done (or are doing) prison time.

Chicago voted most corrupt city in the Nation. U.S. Rep. Dan Rostenkowski,U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds,Otto Kerner Governor from 1961-1968,Secretary of State Paul Powell died with shoeboxes full of money,Auditor Orville Hodge and Attorney General William Scott convicted of various offenses.

University of Illinois at Chicago professor Dick Simpson found In the Northern District of Illinois, which includes Chicago, there have been a total of 1,531 public corruption convictions since 1976,

Chicago is a great place for politics.
 

hal2kilo

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Illinois Four former Illinois governors have done (or are doing) prison time.

Chicago voted most corrupt city in the Nation. U.S. Rep. Dan Rostenkowski,U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds,Otto Kerner Governor from 1961-1968,Secretary of State Paul Powell died with shoeboxes full of money,Auditor Orville Hodge and Attorney General William Scott convicted of various offenses.

University of Illinois at Chicago professor Dick Simpson found In the Northern District of Illinois, which includes Chicago, there have been a total of 1,531 public corruption convictions since 1976,

Chicago is a great place for politics.

It was entertaining to say the least while I lived there. The original Mayor Daley died in office when i first arrived out there. All the sudden they found out the schools were like a billion dollars in debt and the milk wasn't being delivered anymore. I goes on from there, but I digress.
 

Geosurface

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I've lived in Nebraska, Colorado, Washington, and Connecticut.

I've spent a considerable amount of time in Maine, Illinois, Wyoming, Montana, Missouri, Kansas, Iowa and have at least visited most of the others.

I want to say, the best state is probably Montana.
 

Juddog

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My favorite state that I've been to, and lived in, would definitely be Oregon.
 

leper84

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You can tell, with all the "hot air" the residents are full of.

I do love the spicy chili though, but sorry, New Mexico does southwest food far better. And California has the best real Mexcian food.

Texas but has the best...funnel cakes? (and toofless grins)

I will ship a Texan a monster San Francisco Mission Style Burrito if someone trades me a hot funnel cake with those giant strawberries. How about a truce? :whiste:

You're from California? Makes sense now......

Its not 'southwestern', is called mf'in Texmex.

As for op, Texas is best because Texas.