What is the best DVD-Burner ??

HardwareAddicted

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I have a request for a system that includes a DVD-burner and need to do some reading up and collect info on these.

FYI: The system will be for video editing...so I am considering a IDE raid config for this.

Fire away with any and all suggestion for this....

But the DVD burner is a new one for me...I have no experience with them .....yet.

Thx again :)

~ HardwareAddicted
 

krackato

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I'd say the Pioneer A03. Burns DVD-R and DVD-RW. You can grab one for about $360 on Pricewatch. Plus, the media is cheaper than DVD+RW media.
 

stonecold3169

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DVD+RW drives appear to be more future-proof then DVD-rw, whereas the DVD-rw seem to be more compatable at the moment. It all depends on which way you want to roll the dice.
 

krackato

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That seems like a very bizzare sort of logic. DVD+RW is future-proof but not current-proof? How is this possible. I think when you are talking about future-proof, you mean that it will work on more FUTURE DVD players, but then you say that currently DVD-R is more compatible with current DVD players. Somebody please explain to me why DVD+RW is so great if it has even less compatibility with today's DVD players and the media costs more? I merely assume that all current and future DVD players will work with both DVD-R and DVD+RW. Of course, I could be way to optimistic. I suppose there's no reason why the DVD+RW camp won't lock out DVD-R and the DVD-R camp won't try to lock out DVD+RW.

What are the benefits of DVD+RW over DVD-R? I see a few negatives, but not that many positives. Is it the rewriteable features? It cam't be since DVD-R burners also burn DVD-RW discs.

God, I wish they'd just make up their minds.
 

Snapster

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If I remember rightly:

DVD-R, burn once, will work on any current DVD players
DVD-RW, re-writeable, no-multisession. If you want to write to the disc again, you have to re-burn everything. Will work on current players
DVD+RW, re-writeable, multisession. Though it's not very compatible with current dvd players ?

 

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<< I have a request for a system that includes a DVD-burner and need to do some reading up and collect info on these.

FYI: The system will be for video editing...so I am considering a IDE raid config for this.

Fire away with any and all suggestion for this....

But the DVD burner is a new one for me...I have no experience with them .....yet.

Thx again :)

~ HardwareAddicted
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What are you going to do with the recorded discs?

I think Pioneer A03 is the way to go for burning discs that are going to be used at home. I heard it forces you to burn at 1x if the media isn't certfied though.

Get the Pioneer DVR-S201 if you're planning on sending out your completed discs to mastering facility for replication. This $4,000 drive only takes DVD-R for Authoring discs.

 

Pariah

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"DVD+RW is future-proof but not current-proof? How is this possible."

Practically every new generation of technology released is "future-proof" but not backwards compatible. Future proof is a bit of a misnomer as everything will become obsolete eventually.

"Somebody please explain to me why DVD+RW is so great if it has even less compatibility with today's DVD players and the media costs more?"

You're comparing 2 different technologies. Compare DVD+RW to DVD-RW or DVD-R to yet unreleased DVD+R. The benefit of DVD+RW vs DVD-R is obviously it's rewrite ability, if you don't need that then don't get it.

"It cam't be since DVD-R burners also burn DVD-RW discs."

DVD-RW at this point is technologically limited to 1x writing. DVD+RW's initial release speed is 2.4x making it faster than current DVD-R drives as well. DVD+RW is backed by a number of large companies, while DVD-R has Pioneer and that's about it. VHS vs Betamax has already shown us that quantity (VHS) beats quality (Betamax only Sony). So regardless of which technology is actually better, the one with more backers is going to win.

I think the current mass compatibility issue is receiving more attention than it should. HP has a list of tested compatible players, which is quite extensive. If your player is on the list (all 8 in my house are) who cares if 17 models of Apex players you don't own aren't? It's not like people upgrade their DVD player every 6 months like video cards. I would hope that the vast majority of future released players are compatible with all formats.
 

Eug

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DVD-R - Works on most DVD players (90%). What (the multimedia oriented) Apple supports. Cheap media.
DVD-RW - Works on 2/3rds of DVD players. Fortunately the drives will also burn DVD-R discs.
DVD+RW - Most flexible technology for data, but again video DVDs work only on 2/3rds of DVD players and the drives do not burn DVD-R.
DVD+R - Promises to be more compatible than DVD+RW if you're optimistic, but currently unavailable.

I've been looking at this, but so far can't justify the cost because for me it's just for data storage. (I have 25 GB of MP3 I encoded myself. That's 38 CD-Rs vs. 6 DVD-Rs.)

Fortunately, my DVD player works with MP3, DVD-A, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, and even DVD-RAM.
 

HardwareAddicted

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Well this has been an eye opener, I must say.

I had no idea there so much left to decide on this....

I would be looking for staying compatible....but I know he will be using it for data backup & his video editing projects.

Please keep the input coming....

Thx

~ HardwareAddicted
 

icon9clast

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Sony's DVD+RW burner is compatible with more dvd-players and roms than HP's according to Maximum P.C. (which I consider a credible source). I haven't read anything about the Phillips DVD+RW burner yet. The Pioneer (which is DVD-RW) is probably the best choice if you're are thinking about now and the near future. However, the DVD+RW format will probably win because more companies support it (HP, Dell, Sony, Phillips, and Compaq probably if HP acquires them). I would speculate if the DVD+RW format wins out in time its blank media will be less expensive.

Hopefully this is somewhat helpful.
 

stonecold3169

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What I meant by future proof is DVD+RW has the marketing edge right now... if it become dominate then DVD-rw and -r will become obsolete and impossible to find and therefore the media will be very expensive and newer devices will not support them. Now, what I DON'T understand was the comment that the sony DVD+RW is more compatable then the HP one. While I'm not saying it's not true, I have not nearly enough knowledge in the area, but I thought the reflectivity of the disc itself was what caused compatability problems, not the burner?
 

StormRider

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<< Fortunately, my DVD player works with MP3, DVD-A, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, and even DVD-RAM.
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Wow, what DVD player is that? Does it accept the cartridge format of DVD-RAM? Or only the kind that isn't in cartridge form?

StormRider <-- interested since he has a DVD-RAM drive.