What is THE Best 56K V.90 Modem to get on the market?

A2KLAU

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Title says it all! And also at a reasonable price too!

I ask this becasue I found out that both my modems are V.43 and not V.90 which means I gett stuck at 33,600!!!

I need 1 PCI Modem which is 56K V.90 for the computer.
Also
I need 1 PCMCIA Modem for the laptop which is also 56K V.90. Try and tell me a Tyte 1 or 2 Modem card.

Thanks in advance to everybody who helps me out!

Albert.
 

A2KLAU

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And what about the PCMCIA Modem? And I thought someone would go for Diamond for the first post!

Albert.

Thanks biggs for helping me all along!
 

Modus

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There are a number of reasons to avoid higher priced "hard modems," especially those made by 3Com/USR, in favor of a common PCI winmodem.

1) Winmodems are dirt cheap.

While a good Lucent LT or Rockwell/Conexant HCF winmodem can easily be found for less than $10 US (see PriceWatch) the cheapest hardware modem costs nearly four times as much: $36 plus shipping and handling. And for a 3Com part, you'll pay even more. By contrast, you can sometimes find winmodems for $5 or even for free with special promotions.

Everything else we put in our computers is subject to a price/performance ratio. In other words, if the performance of a more expensive part does not scale linearly with its price, we don't buy it. (RDRAM, anyone?) The same reasoning must be applied to hardware modems. They certainly don't perform four times as well as winmodems of a quarter the price, and as we'll see, they often don't perform any better at all.

2) Ping times and throughput are not an issue.

Modern Winmodems such as those based on the Lucent LT chipset will display ping times below 100ms and connect speeds around 48000, which is more than adequate for any Internet activity, including online gaming. Any recent softmodem -- especially the HCF variety, where the hardware handles a bit more of the duty -- should exhibit similar performance. Below, a cut and paste job from a generic Lucent LT v.90 PCI, which sells for as low as $9 on PriceWatch:

C:\WINDOWS>ping -n 10 router.infoserve.net

Pinging router.infoserve.net [199.175.157.4] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=101ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253

Ping statistics for 199.175.157.4:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 90ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 98ms

You may object that pinging an ISP would always yield good results. Actually, it's the only fair way to compare latency between modems. Pinging your ISP reduces the number of variables down to three: your modem's performance, the quality of your phone lines, and the nature of your ISP's modem pool. If we were to compare modems by pinging a fixed point on the Internet, we would quickly introduce several more uncontrolled variables: Internet traffic, server load, number of hops, etc.

Even if you ping your own ISP with an expensive hardware modem, I think you'll find it extremely difficult to match these numbers.

Not bad for $9, eh? ;)

3) CPU utilization is minimal.

One of the main arguments against winmodems has been that they consume CPU cycles. Fortunately, manufacturers have always made sure to set minimum CPU guidelines so that the effect is not noticeable. If CPU usage was ever a problem, it certainly isn't today.

CPU power has increased many, many times faster than the technology behind softmodems. For instance, the CPU usage of a typical winmodem hovers below 5% on a Celeron 333. This is in the range of the power required by Windows to spin an hourglass cursor; it's certainly not something that will eat into your game play significantly. Once again, we see the benifit of an HCF winmodem solution, where the onboard DSP relieves much of the stress on the CPU. And now we have people running around with 1 GHz processors. Any drop in frame rate will barely be measurable, let alone visible.

4) They are reliable.

In my consulting business, I've sold dozens of PC's equipped with the cheapest Winmodems I could find. Only one has ever come back with a genuine hardware defect.

Many ISP support techs have a grudge against winmodems because they feel these types of modems are responsible for an innordinate number of support calls. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, almost all new computers sold today use winmodems; a person with a new computer and a modem problem will likely be using a winmodem, simply because they are more prevalent. Second, winmodems actually require the drivers they ship with. A new PC user who can't tell the difference between his RAM and his hard drive space will feel his eyes glaze over when confronted with a manual telling him how to install softmodem drivers. Instinct tells him to phone his "Internet guys" and get them to help.

In truth, winmodems are no more apt to fail than hardware modems, and probably less so, because they have fewer electronic components.

5) Driver/OS support is excellent.

The Lucent LT, for example, supports Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Linux (see [L]http://www.linmodems.org[/L] under the Vendor section), and even the obscure BeOS. Lucent also seems comitted to releasing a new driver every few months, which means your modem's performance will always be as high as possible.

6) Affordable broadband Internet technology puts any analogue modem to shame.

Anyone using the Internet for more than email and chat sees the need for widely available broadband Internet access to replace our antiquated 56k connections. Trying to enjoy streaming audio or video over a modem connection is like trying to sip a thick milkshake through a thin straw. With the availability and affordability of high speed Internet access growing at a steady rate, it would be foolish to invest more than the minimum amount in modem technology that is already obsolete.

So when you consider the facts, there are very few valid reasons to avoid winmodems.

Modus
 

A2KLAU

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I knew you Modus would help me out about Modems! You are the king of Modems! Got many recomendations about you from fellow U.K Anandtechers. (E.G Mem)

Anyway thank you very much for your reply! It was really educational! So I am definitely going with a Winmodem...

Now the question is... Which one???
I need a recomendation for a PCI Winmodem, and PCMCIA modem for laptop.

All help is appreciated!

Albert.
 

PhaZe

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Modus is right. As a vivid quake 2 player, pings are crucial in the game. I went out and bought the infamouse 3com US robotics 56k modem, its pci and hardware based...my pings are so gay..250+ and alot of pl..but my isp is to blame also...but at any rate, I have a friend that uses a lucent winmodem that came with his computer and he pings 50ms lower than me in quake2.
if that helps any..
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A2KLAU

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Well that helps me descide what TYPE of modem to get, but now which one? I need a PCI and a PCMCIA one... Who can help me choose what modem? Which make and model?

Thanks,

Albert.
 

JellyBaby

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Yep, I'd spend the time to find a decent ISP rather than wasting it on the "best" modem. Anyway, aren't new modems using a new standard (V.92) coming out shortly? Might want to wait but I don't believe V.92 adds much. Faster uploading? Faster handshaking? Don't exactly recall what the specs. say.
 

Riverhound

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Well my computer came with a winmodem. It worked alright for normal internet stuff like browsing, but when it came to online games I didn't much care for it. My pings were not horrible but my ping to myself such as on mplayer was in the 150ms range. I bought a internet gaming modem off e bay and was pleased with it. My pings dropped to 100-120ms range, my lowest is 91ms. I've even pinged people on napster in the 70ms range (when i do i download from them at over 8k/s, its really cool). Maybe the newer winmodems are better but I don't think I would buy one even if they are cheap, since you can get a decent hardware modem for $30-50.
 

jonnyjack

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i bought a Diamond SupraMAX 56K PCI modem....i haven't tried it yet...but it was really cheap and several people who have it on this board say its pretty good...

the difference between the Diamond SupraMAX and SupraExpress is that the "MAX" is the winmodem and the "Express" is the hardware modem...
 

bluegi

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i have both the winmodem and diamond supraexpress pci. I liked the diamond better because it was more stable, downloaded faster.:)
 

Mem

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Another vote here for Diamond SupraExpress 56i,mine as been great.

:)
 

j24u

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How about a small USB modem that you could use for your desktop and/or your laptop? I'm using one right now with my laptop. It's an Actiontec call waiting usb. Working at 49,333. I just screwed up the video on my desktop, so I unplugged the modem from the desktop and hooked it to my laptop. The call waiting feature is OK if you only have one phone line. If you are online and someone tries to call, you will hear a slight ringing noise from the modem. You can answer the call with your phone and get 7 seconds to either hang up and continue online or take the phone call. If you take the call, you'll get a Reestablish Connection box on your screen for a quick reconnect after your call. You can even tell the caller to hold and click back to the online for a minute then logoff and take the call. I got mine from buy.com for about $60. There was free shipping and $30 off $150, so I didn't pay that much for it and I don't need a PCI, Serial or PCMCIA port.
 

A2KLAU

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I just had a look around and shock horror! PCMCIA modems are not just expensive but they are pretty big! Won't work with my Netgear network card. OK what is a good external modem then? And PCI modem? I have got quite a few votes for Diamond and Lucent modems... Where do I find a Lucent in the U.K?

Also which modem is a good external? I need 1 External recomendation and 1 PCI internal modem. Both will be used for gaming online and also downloading and surfing.

My ISP is one of THE best in the U.K so that is not a problem! The problem is I can't keep up and use the speed of the ISP to the max!

Thanks for any help!

Albert.
 

rsales

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Well I have been for years a die hard hardware modem fan. I had given up finding any modem that would connect faster than 28800 on my phone line. That's all I would get with name brand hardware modems. Lately I got a cheap on sale $4.88 winmodem from Compusa. I was shocked. It connects most of the time from 36000-38000 to three isp's I test called! I have yet to see a 28800 connection. My couier only connected sometimes faster than 28800 to one isp and only when wet outside. My USR sporster will connect like this but only to one isp. I still wanted a hardware modem and tried a Blaster and it only did 28800. I have come to the conclusion you have to try the modem on you phone line how well it will do so make sure you can return it. In the mean time I had bought four of these $4.88 modems. Dialup is my only option for awhile until the get the area upgraded for dsl and cable. At least one year away.