What is suitable punishment for this?

TMPadmin

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Early this morning a mother killed her 7 Month old baby. Here is the story so far.

What is suitable punishment for someone who does something like this? I have two boys and a daughter on the way, I know the frustration children can bring but I know enough to let it go because they just don't know. They are babies and they cry and cry and cry... Maybe being a Dad makes you soft but this story really affected me. Makes me sad, angry and worried. I wasn't sure if I should even post this but was looking for feelings from others. Maybe, I don't know.

There have been several other stories lately, the one where a father shot all those kids (they say the daughter (9yrs old) actually did it) and more. Does it seem like there are more of these or am I just hearing about them more?
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: TMPadmin
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Standard Murder penalty.

I know I'll be labeled for this but it doesn't seem enough.

I was thinking hold her by the ankles and whack her head into the ground repeatedly.
Seems oddly fitting to me.
 

Ausm

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Someone who could kill a helpless infant could not possibly have a conscious so life in prison would not be an effective punishment. I think the death penalty is in order here.

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MattCo

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Put her in solitary confinement for life and force her to listen to an endless loop of a group of babies crying.

-MC
 

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I wonder if they're gonna come up with a ridiculously inappropriate "syndrome" for this type of death, similiar to "Shaken Baby Syndrome". This b!tch should suffer from eye-for-an-eye justice.
 

TwinkleToes77

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I personally think anyone who abuses children should be sterilized.. and she's obviously got mental problems. I wish they would punish ppl the same way the ppl committed crimes as well.
 

notfred

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Causing more pain to more people really doesn't help anything, regardless of what the person feeling the pain may have done. The punishment should be beneficial - whether to the perpetrator or society as a whole, or both.

I don't know that there's anything that can be done for someone who kills babies to help them become a productive member of society, but certainly torturing that person isn't going to benefit society any more than just locking her up in jail.
 

MattCo

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Originally posted by: notfred
Causing more pain to more people really doesn't help anything, regardless of what the person feeling the pain may have done. The punishment should be beneficial - whether to the perpetrator or society as a whole, or both.

I don't know that there's anything that can be done for someone who kills babies to help them become a productive member of society, but certainly torturing that person isn't going to benefit society any more than just locking her up in jail.


What if the torture makes someone else think twice before commiting the same crime?

-MC
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: TMPadmin
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Standard Murder penalty.

I know I'll be labeled for this but it doesn't seem enough.

so you'll let me off if i murder ur parents?;)

its just simple murder. she didn't pull the babies toes off one by one. she dashed em against the rocks basically
 

Leejai

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make her stand up hours on end butt nakes w/ no food or sleep...oh..and put a garbage bag over her head
 

PoPPeR

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take a gun, shoot her.

i'll pay for the bullet myself. I don't understand why it costs us a million bucks to kill someone. Well I do, but it needs to change
 

TMPadmin

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I guess she was picked up earlier today wondering around the streets near her home. She was already suspect as having "issues". The Police picked her up and took her home. (not sure if the baby was with her when she was waling around). The cop checked out the home and didn't see any signs of child abuse and left. Someone going to work noticed what was going on and stopped to help (help the baby -for all those ready with a comment). The baby was rushed to the hospital but died shortly after arriving.
 

rezinn

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Remove her ability to reproduce and let a jury decide the rest. Killing your own child should at least disqualify you from making more.
 

TMPadmin

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Originally posted by: rezinn
Remove her ability to reproduce and let a jury decide the rest. Killing your own child should at least disqualify you from making more.

You would think...
 

KK

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Originally posted by: notfred
Causing more pain to more people really doesn't help anything, regardless of what the person feeling the pain may have done. The punishment should be beneficial - whether to the perpetrator or society as a whole, or both.

I don't know that there's anything that can be done for someone who kills babies to help them become a productive member of society, but certainly torturing that person isn't going to benefit society any more than just locking her up in jail.

Locking her up in jail doesn't benefit society one bit. Killing the b1tch, will be the inexpensive way to go about it and maybe, just maybe, it will prevent some other b1tch from doing the same.

KK
 

Kipper

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This would probably fall under a manslaughter/infanticide charge, wouldn't it? Given that it's not premeditated, etc.
 

Kipper

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: notfred
Causing more pain to more people really doesn't help anything, regardless of what the person feeling the pain may have done. The punishment should be beneficial - whether to the perpetrator or society as a whole, or both.

I don't know that there's anything that can be done for someone who kills babies to help them become a productive member of society, but certainly torturing that person isn't going to benefit society any more than just locking her up in jail.

Locking her up in jail doesn't benefit society one bit. Killing the b1tch, will be the inexpensive way to go about it and maybe, just maybe, it will prevent some other b1tch from doing the same.

KK

We've established that she's nuts, psycho, crazy, etc. What makes you think that executing her will make other people who are crazy, nuts, and psycho from doing the same thing? Deterrence works on the principle that when you establish that A->B, and B is something unpleasant, you refrain from doing A. In other words, it requires someone who is reasonable. Persons who slam their children into pavements could hardly be considered reasonable...so why would deterrence work? It doesn't.

Edit: Death penalty trials are incredibly complex, incredibly expensive, and incredibly time-consuming. You usually have to deal with multiple levels of appeal, etc. It's generally accepted that life imprisonment IS cheaper in the long run, usually also because the immate is put to work at some task.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: notfred
Causing more pain to more people really doesn't help anything, regardless of what the person feeling the pain may have done. The punishment should be beneficial - whether to the perpetrator or society as a whole, or both.

I don't know that there's anything that can be done for someone who kills babies to help them become a productive member of society, but certainly torturing that person isn't going to benefit society any more than just locking her up in jail.

Locking her up in jail doesn't benefit society one bit. Killing the b1tch, will be the inexpensive way to go about it and maybe, just maybe, it will prevent some other b1tch from doing the same.

KK

We've established that she's nuts, psycho, crazy, etc. What makes you think that executing her will make other people who are crazy, nuts, and psycho from doing the same thing? Deterrence works on the principle that when you establish that A->B, and B is something unpleasant, you refrain from doing A. In other words, it requires someone who is reasonable. Persons who slam their children into pavements could hardly be considered reasonable...so why would deterrence work? It doesn't.

Edit: Death penalty trials are incredibly complex, incredibly expensive, and incredibly time-consuming. You usually have to deal with multiple levels of appeal, etc. It's generally accepted that life imprisonment IS cheaper in the long run, usually also because the immate is put to work at some task.

I still say kill her, she isn't doing society any good.

KK