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pinion9

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?


I purchased the game last night and played and saw no ads. It may only be in online mode? Not sure yet. I am seeking clarification and if you had any reading comprehension you would be able to infer that this is thread is about how they are collecting information, not about whether or not putting ads in games is right or wrong.

Why don't you go troll elsewhere?
 

BigLouis

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?

Because he was curious. Why should anyone ever ask any questions? What pricks! They're wasting my time wanting to know stuff! :|

His attitude from the very start was explaining to us why we shouldn't be bothered by ingame ads.

You musn't be very bright and spend all your days trying to prove your worth by trolling people on this forum but you're just making yourself look like more of a jackass in the process.

 

BigLouis

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Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?


I purchased the game last night and played and saw no ads. It may only be in online mode? Not sure yet. I am seeking clarification and if you had any reading comprehension you would be able to infer that this is thread is about how they are collecting information, not about whether or not putting ads in games is right or wrong.

Why don't you go troll elsewhere?

I'd be trolling if it were strictly calling you an idiot for your stance. I'm calling you an idiot because you have your stance with no merit. Go preach to the choir elsewhere little boy.
 

BD2003

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2142 a mod? New textures, new maps, new weapons, nothing of the old. Would you consider any game using a previously developed engine a mod? Is Call Of Duty a mod of Quake 3, since they use the same engine?

Perhaps a total conversion would be a more apt description. Desert combat for the original 1942, used new textures, maps, weapons, nothing of the old. It was free. It didn't even have ads.

So, it comes back to the illusion of choice. Has anyone seen the ads in game? I haven't gotten to see them yet.

The placeholders are EVERYWHERE. I imagine they are giving us an illusion for the first few weeks, so it don't seem too bad. You know, if you're gonna ass rape someone and have them like it, you've gotta ease it in.

As for Spyware, by the loose definition anything that mines data could be considered spyware. Hell, a web page that simply reads your cookies to see if you visited Amazon could be considered spyware, no?

Spyware is typically at your expense, for someone else's benefit. You might consder cookie scanning a form of it, I would. But that's rather innocuous, so its not a big deal.

While I do agree they should have just given you checkboxes, I believe they are more interested in reporting if their ads are working (e.g. display an ad for best buy, check to see if you visited bestbuy.com afterwards.) This couldn't be done without checking index.dat or cookies. It sounds as if it may be a pay per click deal. Agency places ad in game, you go there, they pay EA. Or they are doing this on a trial basis to see if it is worth the money.

The spyware isn't targeting ads. The ip log is only used to check your general region, it doesnt scan your cookies to find out what you like. I doubt it tracks whether you go to BB.com after seeing a BB ad.

What they are doing, precisely: Before they can figure out the proper rates for the ads, they need data on which ads are viewed most. The software is determining how long you stare at that placeholder without realizing it, even the angle at which you are viewing it. They are trying to figure out the best spots, which would undoubedtly be right in the middle of the biggest, most important points where players gather, or on a barren road, where there's nothing shooting at you to distract you from the billboard. More like Tv ratings than pay for click - the best spots (the middle flag would be like the superbowl) cost the most.

It's worth the money, if people buy the game, and accept nothing in value in return. If they spark an outrage, as they obviously have, the loss in primary sales may obliterate any profit from the ads.

 

BD2003

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I think I understand EA's general strategy with this. They are not stupid - they know exactly what theyre doing.

2142 is a marginal project. Say what you want, but its a mod. It's no more of a product than desert combat. It probably cost them very little to develop, and the franchise guarantees many people will buy it.

Easing into the ads would have provoked a response, but not a vocal outrage. Without a truely vocal response, they would have no good barometer as to how to gauge how far they can really push it. So they push it as far as possible, with a product that was marginal in the first place. Not much to risk.

They gain twofold. They now have a guess as too how far they can push it. I believe the next game will definitely say something on the outside of the box. But by going so overboard this time, they desensitize us to it next time.

When BF 3142 comes out, it might say inform you on the box. Hey, at least they're telling us...thats not so bad, right? Human psychology is a weird thing, but if somenoe were to steal $50 from you, but they come back a week later and say they made a mistake, and give you $5 back, you'd feel a LOT better about that person, compared to someone who just took $45 from you and laughed all the way to the bank.
 

So

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?

Because he was curious. Why should anyone ever ask any questions? What pricks! They're wasting my time wanting to know stuff! :|

His attitude from the very start was explaining to us why we shouldn't be bothered by ingame ads.

You musn't be very bright and spend all your days trying to prove your worth by trolling people on this forum but you're just making yourself look like more of a jackass in the process.

Resorting to personal attacks, eh? You sir, are a tremendous ass, and have been since you walked into this thread. Who's the troll?

You should be ashamed of yourself.
 

BigLouis

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?

Because he was curious. Why should anyone ever ask any questions? What pricks! They're wasting my time wanting to know stuff! :|

His attitude from the very start was explaining to us why we shouldn't be bothered by ingame ads.

You musn't be very bright and spend all your days trying to prove your worth by trolling people on this forum but you're just making yourself look like more of a jackass in the process.

Resorting to personal attacks, eh? You sir, are a tremendous ass, and have been since you walked into this thread. Who's the troll?

You should be ashamed of yourself.
Well, that's your extremely worthless opinion, lifer.

Threadstarter explains about not being bothered by ads, realizes that they're targeted by your interests.

He then explains that he hasn't played online yet, and wondered why he hasn't seen ads yet? What does he think targeted meant? Did he think the installer hijacks your webcam and now will push oreo ad's since it sees a fatass playing or protein mix if there's a broly there?

I don't know if he's your boyfriend, girlfriend or whatever relation you have but you're making an ass out of yourself by standing with him.

 

sswingle

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I dont mind the ads so much as the spyware that runs ALL THE TIME to figure out what ads to show. Get some advertisers, give everyone the same ads, and drop the spyware.
 

Billzie7718

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Originally posted by: pinion9
I subscribe to certain newsletters with good deals (buy.com, newegg.) I like getting those e-mails in case they have something I need/want. I bet most of you here do something similar.

In that same vein, I don't mind targeted ads. Why do I want to see an ad for Downy when I would never buy something of the sort? If I had my way, all ads would be targeted for me (well, given the choice of random ads or targeted ads. No ads are the best.)

This brings me to my point: I don't care what information people collect about my purchasing habits so they can target my lifestyle. Why does everyone else? The reason I bring this up is because of BF:2142. There are supposed to be ads in the game (probably to help with production costs.) If there are ads in the game, what is wrong with them targeting my taste? Furthermore, there is no personally identifiable information (to the point where someone could say "Hmmm...<real name> likes buying hard drives...") so why does it REALLY matter if they collect information on what I like?

Yes, the little piece of paper that comes out of the box basically states that information may be mined, but cannot be resolved back to you (unless, of course, they use your IP and trace it back through the ISP with a warrant....)

To make the post longer: on that note, couldn't one just find out what hostname the information is being sent to a change the lmhost to send to a different address (such as 127.0.0.1)?

I dont want to look at ANY ads ... at all .... ever.

I dont subscribe to ANY newsletters. I don't use coupons. I dont watch commercials ... well ... unless it's during the Super Bowl. Basically, if I want something, I'll go get it. I dont need some annoying window popping up to say "Oh hey, in case you didnt know, you can buy 10 packs of Ho-Ho's for $3 at your local supermarket." Am I alone on this one?
 

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Lifer
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I don't most advertising as long as it isn't obtrusive like pop-up ads or flash ads that show up in front of the webpage you're viewing.
 

pinion9

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?


I purchased the game last night and played and saw no ads. It may only be in online mode? Not sure yet. I am seeking clarification and if you had any reading comprehension you would be able to infer that this is thread is about how they are collecting information, not about whether or not putting ads in games is right or wrong.

Why don't you go troll elsewhere?

I'd be trolling if it were strictly calling you an idiot for your stance. I'm calling you an idiot because you have your stance with no merit. Go preach to the choir elsewhere little boy.

Preaching to the choir is speaking a belief that everyone else already holds. I am clearly not "preaching to the choir." Why don't you brush up on your metaphors there, big guy. Might help you out a little around here. ;)
 

So

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Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?


I purchased the game last night and played and saw no ads. It may only be in online mode? Not sure yet. I am seeking clarification and if you had any reading comprehension you would be able to infer that this is thread is about how they are collecting information, not about whether or not putting ads in games is right or wrong.

Why don't you go troll elsewhere?

I'd be trolling if it were strictly calling you an idiot for your stance. I'm calling you an idiot because you have your stance with no merit. Go preach to the choir elsewhere little boy.

Preaching to the choir is speaking a belief that everyone else already holds. I am clearly not "preaching to the choir." Why don't you brush up on your metaphors there, big guy. Might help you out a little around here. ;)

I think I speak for most people in this thread when I say that I'd like anyone who comes in with that kind of chip on their shoulder to get some help out the door.
 

pinion9

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
If I pay full price for the game, and EA isn't hosting anything more than a nameserver, then I shouldn't be have to look at ads. I wasn't too excited about 2142, but me paying them for a game and then having them shovel ads at me anyway sealed the deal. I bought 1942, BF:V, and BF2 and I'm not going to touch 2142 with a ten foot pole.

I haven't seen screenshots of the ads and haven't played multiplayer yet. What do they look like?

Are you doing this more on principle (i.e. how dare they give me ads in a game I paid for) or more based on paranoia (i.e. how dare they data mine me)?

That was an awful start of a thread since you aren't even aware of how intrusive they may be.
Why would you make a thread about something you obviously know nothing about?

Because he was curious. Why should anyone ever ask any questions? What pricks! They're wasting my time wanting to know stuff! :|

His attitude from the very start was explaining to us why we shouldn't be bothered by ingame ads.

You musn't be very bright and spend all your days trying to prove your worth by trolling people on this forum but you're just making yourself look like more of a jackass in the process.

Resorting to personal attacks, eh? You sir, are a tremendous ass, and have been since you walked into this thread. Who's the troll?

You should be ashamed of yourself.
Well, that's your extremely worthless opinion, lifer.

Threadstarter explains about not being bothered by ads, realizes that they're targeted by your interests.

He then explains that he hasn't played online yet, and wondered why he hasn't seen ads yet? What does he think targeted meant? Did he think the installer hijacks your webcam and now will push oreo ad's since it sees a fatass playing or protein mix if there's a broly there?

I don't know if he's your boyfriend, girlfriend or whatever relation you have but you're making an ass out of yourself by standing with him.

I never said I wondered why I haven't seen ads yet. One could make the assumption that even single player would have some general billboards, as many brands are universal.

Nice way to make personal attacks. I really don't think this forum is for people with your low level of intellect, marginal ability to make a point, or your poor reading comprehension.

 

BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: Billzie7718
Originally posted by: pinion9
I subscribe to certain newsletters with good deals (buy.com, newegg.) I like getting those e-mails in case they have something I need/want. I bet most of you here do something similar.

In that same vein, I don't mind targeted ads. Why do I want to see an ad for Downy when I would never buy something of the sort? If I had my way, all ads would be targeted for me (well, given the choice of random ads or targeted ads. No ads are the best.)

This brings me to my point: I don't care what information people collect about my purchasing habits so they can target my lifestyle. Why does everyone else? The reason I bring this up is because of BF:2142. There are supposed to be ads in the game (probably to help with production costs.) If there are ads in the game, what is wrong with them targeting my taste? Furthermore, there is no personally identifiable information (to the point where someone could say "Hmmm...<real name> likes buying hard drives...") so why does it REALLY matter if they collect information on what I like?

Yes, the little piece of paper that comes out of the box basically states that information may be mined, but cannot be resolved back to you (unless, of course, they use your IP and trace it back through the ISP with a warrant....)

To make the post longer: on that note, couldn't one just find out what hostname the information is being sent to a change the lmhost to send to a different address (such as 127.0.0.1)?

I dont want to look at ANY ads ... at all .... ever.

I dont subscribe to ANY newsletters. I don't use coupons. I dont watch commercials ... well ... unless it's during the Super Bowl. Basically, if I want something, I'll go get it. I dont need some annoying window popping up to say "Oh hey, in case you didnt know, you can buy 10 packs of Ho-Ho's for $3 at your local supermarket." Am I alone on this one?

I would say that I 99% agree with you here Billzie7718.
I like the yellow pages, etc, in case I'm looking for something, and the ads in there pay for it to keep it free.

Otherwise, I hate all Television Advertising, I hate web advertising (except for maybe text only static links)

I am much sooner going to go out and buy something due to word of mouth from a friend or family member than a commercial advertisement anywhere.

I haven't purchased BF2142, and I won't be purchasing it at all. I had fun with the BF series, but I don't want any adware on my computers at home.
 

pinion9

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Originally posted by: So
I think I speak for most people in this thread when I say that I'd like anyone who comes in with that kind of chip on their shoulder to get some help out the door.

Now THAT is preaching to the choir.

Maybe we should start a thread wherein we define metaphors and what they mean. Might help him out a little when "arguing."

 

So

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Originally posted by: pinion9
Originally posted by: So
I think I speak for most people in this thread when I say that I'd like anyone who comes in with that kind of chip on their shoulder to get some help out the door.

Now THAT is preaching to the choir.

Maybe we should start a thread wherein we define metaphors and what they mean. Might help him out a little when "arguing."

:laugh:
 

BigLouis

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Hey nerds, I see you have fun swining your little penii around an internet forum. I'm not here to psychologically help you in that regard with something missing in your real life.

Back on subject, you made a jackassed argument about nothing being wrong with targeted ads. Then it's apparent you obviously know nothing about the EA BF2142 case and how it applies.

Why make an entire thread about something you're totally clueless about? How about gathering information to make a clear, concise argument for your case before starting such a thread?

 

So

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
Hey nerds, I see you have fun swining your little penii around an internet forum. I'm not here to psychologically help you in that regard with something missing in your real life.

Back on subject, you made a jackassed argument about nothing being wrong with targeted ads. Then it's apparent you obviously know nothing about the EA BF2142 case and how it applies.

Why make an entire thread about something you're totally clueless about? How about gathering information to make a clear, concise argument for your case before starting such a thread?

You're making such a sad spectacle of yourself, it's actually kinda funny.

Dance for us! Make us laugh with your feeble insults and raving indiscriminately. You're so busy screaming you didn't even take time to notice that most people in this thread agreed with you.

Thanks for a :laugh:
 

BigLouis

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Hey nerds, I see you have fun swining your little penii around an internet forum. I'm not here to psychologically help you in that regard with something missing in your real life.

Back on subject, you made a jackassed argument about nothing being wrong with targeted ads. Then it's apparent you obviously know nothing about the EA BF2142 case and how it applies.

Why make an entire thread about something you're totally clueless about? How about gathering information to make a clear, concise argument for your case before starting such a thread?

You're making such a sad spectacle of yourself, it's actually kinda funny.

Dance for us! Make us laugh with your feeble insults and raving indiscriminately. You're so busy screaming you didn't even take time to notice that most people in this thread agreed with you.

Thanks for a :laugh:

What does the fact of most people agreeing with me have to do with my dispute with you and the thread starter? (That I am completely in the right in BTW)

BTW, my preaching to the choir idiom stands. It's not my fault that the threadstarter misunderstood the context. It doesn't appear that he understands much so it's not my problem.

 

pinion9

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
Hey nerds, I see you have fun swining your little penii around an internet forum. I'm not here to psychologically help you in that regard with something missing in your real life.

Back on subject, you made a jackassed argument about nothing being wrong with targeted ads. Then it's apparent you obviously know nothing about the EA BF2142 case and how it applies.

Why make an entire thread about something you're totally clueless about? How about gathering information to make a clear, concise argument for your case before starting such a thread?

The main point, if you can comprehend: If we are subjected to ads, i.e. if we buy the game, there are ads, wouldn't you rather them be targeted? The question wasn't about the legitimacy of ads in games (I dislike them as well) but whether or not you want them gathering information to target them. The whole point of this thread was about gaining understanding.

You respond with ad hominem arguments, which are for the weak minded that cannot form some sort of valid argument.

You make me laugh with your misuse of metaphors and your clear misunderstanding of the subject matter.

Please be quiet, adults are talking now and you are distracting us.
 

So

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
What does the fact of most people agreeing with me have to do with my dispute with you and the thread starter? (That I am completely in the right in BTW)

BTW, my preaching to the choir idiom stands. It's not my fault that the threadstarter misunderstood the context. It doesn't appear that he understands much so it's not my problem.

ROFL

You just keep getting better. Do you even realize what you're saying?
 

pinion9

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Originally posted by: BigLouis
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
Hey nerds, I see you have fun swining your little penii around an internet forum. I'm not here to psychologically help you in that regard with something missing in your real life.

Back on subject, you made a jackassed argument about nothing being wrong with targeted ads. Then it's apparent you obviously know nothing about the EA BF2142 case and how it applies.

Why make an entire thread about something you're totally clueless about? How about gathering information to make a clear, concise argument for your case before starting such a thread?

You're making such a sad spectacle of yourself, it's actually kinda funny.

Dance for us! Make us laugh with your feeble insults and raving indiscriminately. You're so busy screaming you didn't even take time to notice that most people in this thread agreed with you.

Thanks for a :laugh:

What does the fact of most people agreeing with me have to do with my dispute with you and the thread starter? (That I am completely in the right in BTW)

BTW, my preaching to the choir idiom stands. It's not my fault that the threadstarter misunderstood the context. It doesn't appear that he understands much so it's not my problem.

You are completely in the right about an opinion? Odd. I was unsure someone could state an opinion as fact.

Preaching to the choir is not the correct idiom, as most people seemed to disagree with my initial hypothesis, stating they would not like ads at all. In what context did you mean "preaching to the choir?" I'm sorry I am not able to infer such intricate details from your wild rantings and misgivings. In between the failed comprehension and the personal insults it is hard to extract any significant meaning other than you are an asshat with nothing to contribute to a conversation other than "Your opnion sucks!"
 

pinion9

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BigLouis
What does the fact of most people agreeing with me have to do with my dispute with you and the thread starter? (That I am completely in the right in BTW)

BTW, my preaching to the choir idiom stands. It's not my fault that the threadstarter misunderstood the context. It doesn't appear that he understands much so it's not my problem.

ROFL

You just keep getting better. Do you even realize what you're saying?

If we can get more people in here, we might be able to turn this into pwnage of the year thread! Please hold while I adjust my summary.
 

pinion9

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I don't know how to translate this so our friend can understand it better. Maybe someone can help me:

If there are ads in the game, what is wrong with them targeting my taste?

It seems as though BigLouis is inferring that I agree with ads in the game, but I don't see where I am stating or even implying such a thing.

So, can you help me with this one as I believed that statement was the lowest common denominator.

Maybe I need to bash my head into the wall a few times and then repost once I am done with my temporary IQ adjustment.