What is more valuable

Sqube

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Given enough time, you can always discover the truth. On the other hand, getting the truth from the beginning can save you a lot of time.

This is an apples-to-oranges comparison though; I don't see the validity in measuring them against each other directly like you're doing.
 

HamburgerBoy

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How exactly do you compare the two? And how much time versus how much truth are we talking about?
 

RaistlinZ

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Screw truth. It's only led to a lot of hurt feelings and disappointments.

Time can take care of just about everything, with the possible exception of running out of time of course.
 

Rubycon

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The Swan is basing inquiries on fortune cookie drivel! Splendid! :p
 

Kadarin

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Time.

Truth is utterly arbitrary, whereas time is absolute (until someone invents a time machine, or at the very least, comes up with an effective means to extend human lifetime).
 

dugweb

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Time.

Truth is utterly arbitrary, whereas time is absolute (until someone invents a time machine, or at the very least, comes up with an effective means to extend human lifetime).


That's the point! There isn't as much truth available to us as one may believe. But absolute truth DOES in fact exist.

I'm not sure what the OP is saying, are you asking 'Would you rather have unlimited knowledge, or unlimited time to live?'

I think truth is more valuable, but time is right up there with it.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: dugweb
But absolute truth DOES in fact exist.

Prove it. Please provide evidence to back up this assertion. In fact, define "truth".
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: dugweb
But absolute truth DOES in fact exist.

Prove it. Please provide evidence to back up this assertion. In fact, define "truth".
I agree.
Truth is born from honesty. Each of us has his or her own truth.

Time FTW.

 

dugweb

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: dugweb
But absolute truth DOES in fact exist.

Prove it. Please provide evidence to back up this assertion. In fact, define "truth".

:eek: hmm, well I doubt I can prove anything, but I can try to define it (at least my perception of it).

It's like a referee making a controversial call in a game. The player saw the ball move this way, but the referee saw it move another way... you watching the game have formed your own opinion. In the end it doesn't matter what ACTUALLY happened... only what the ref percieved.

But there is an absolute truth, the ball did or did not (lets say) go out of bounds. History, as it is written, is the exact same way. We aren't reading what happened in the past... only what joe bloe percieved as to what happened.

Mathematics is, I feel, one of the closest absolute truths we have. I know there are a hundred laws and theoroms being debated all the time... but I can see the beauty when a math equation can be switched around, all over the place and produce the information you are looking for... even more amazing is when it's applied to things we interact with everyday (like nature and the golden ratio). Don't ask me to demonstare please :p Im not great at math and probably couldn't demonstrate anything beautiful.

I also think my feelings on truth come from my religious beliefs. The idea of absolute truth may only be had by those that believe in it :confused: I'm not sure, but I would venture a guess that the two that challenged the idea of 'absolute truth' are either athiest or agnostic. I could be dead wrong but it would seem to explain your attitude with relation to time/truth.