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What is Kerry's plan of action against terrorists, and Iraq?

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dnuggett

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Can someone please explain what Kerry's plan of action is for fighting terrorism, and his plan of action for Iraq? This isn't a fecetious question.... I really can't pin it down.
 
Honestly, for purposes of the election: it's to not f*ck up as bad as GWB and his cronies. Yup, that's it.

And for most people, that's good enough. From a strategic point of view, why should Kerry open himself up to criticism when all he has to do is point out Bush's flaws?
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Can someone please explain what Bush's plan of action is for fighting terrorism, and his plan of action for Iraq? This isn't a fecetious question.... I really can't pin it down.
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Fixed.

Joking aside, neither candidate has a really great plan. They are both going to be stuck with the Iraq issue, and that constrains their options, since it drains resources.

I think that his basic plan is to take a more multilateralist stance, and try to corral a few more allies. Also, he wants to increase the number of trained Iraqi security forces. He also wants to expand the army by a couple of brigades IIRC, and vastly increase the number of Special Ops soldiers available.

For terrorism, I think that he wants to increase the surviellance at ports and inside the "homeland."

I don't know if he can realize these goals, but then I don;t know whether Bush can realize his, either.

My slanted 2c.
 
I agree, I think both candidates are just saying, "I can do it better than him." However, whatever the course of action, I would prefer to stick with one administration throughout. I agree with Bush, that a change in leadership when we're in the middle of it isn't going to help the situation. And an argument will be, "Well, a change in leadership will help if the leader is better." But I think we all agree that neither candidate has a great plan. I think libs just want to get Bush out as punishment for getting us in, not because Kerry is going to be any better.
 
Originally posted by: Rob9874
I agree, I think both candidates are just saying, "I can do it better than him." However, whatever the course of action, I would prefer to stick with one administration throughout. I agree with Bush, that a change in leadership when we're in the middle of it isn't going to help the situation. And an argument will be, "Well, a change in leadership will help if the leader is better." But I think we all agree that neither candidate has a great plan. I think libs just want to get Bush out as punishment for getting us in, not because Kerry is going to be any better.
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That is kinda where I'm at with the whole thing. I'm just trying to see what all Kerry has to offer.

 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: Rob9874
I agree, I think both candidates are just saying, "I can do it better than him." However, whatever the course of action, I would prefer to stick with one administration throughout. I agree with Bush, that a change in leadership when we're in the middle of it isn't going to help the situation. And an argument will be, "Well, a change in leadership will help if the leader is better." But I think we all agree that neither candidate has a great plan. I think libs just want to get Bush out as punishment for getting us in, not because Kerry is going to be any better.
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That is kinda where I'm at with the whole thing. I'm just trying to see what all Kerry has to offer.
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Come on. Even if we didn't know anything about Kerry it would be wise to replace Bush. Take a look at the average quality of presidents in terms of foreign affairs over our history. Bush is seriously near the bottom. He's made huge mistakes. It's definitely reasonable to gamble that Kerry will be above Bush on the curve.

And we don't need to gamble because we know at least some differences between Bush and Kerry. We know Kerry wanted more time for the inspections. We know Kerry doesn't have the arrogant I-could-care-less-what-the-UN-thinks-even-though-they-might-be-right attitude. The fact is Osama wants Bush to win because he is inflamming Arab hatred. Hence, there are tons of reasons to think kerry will do a much better job than Bush no matter what his plan is.

Moreover, I find it highly unlikely if we had a Democrat in the whitehouse that you'd want to "stay the course."
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Can someone please explain what Kerry's plan of action is for fighting terrorism, and his plan of action for Iraq? This isn't a fecetious question.... I really can't pin it down.
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im hoping someone else told you this, if they didnt here it is....

pick up a major national newspaper, like the new york times, flip through a couple pages and you will find a full page ad explaining the whole thing

its not that hard, you just have to rely on something other than fox news
 
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

What do you know about it? It's hard. It's hard work 😉
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What do you know about it? :roll:

What's your point? Evidently Bush didn't have the ability to do the work. Also, notice how many vacations he took if it's so hard. Anybody could do a better job. Evidently, you are a failure-appeaser though.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: Rob9874
I agree, I think both candidates are just saying, "I can do it better than him." However, whatever the course of action, I would prefer to stick with one administration throughout. I agree with Bush, that a change in leadership when we're in the middle of it isn't going to help the situation. And an argument will be, "Well, a change in leadership will help if the leader is better." But I think we all agree that neither candidate has a great plan. I think libs just want to get Bush out as punishment for getting us in, not because Kerry is going to be any better.
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That is kinda where I'm at with the whole thing. I'm just trying to see what all Kerry has to offer.
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Come on. Even if we didn't know anything about Kerry it would be wise to replace Bush. Take a look at the average quality of presidents in terms of foreign affairs over our history. Bush is seriously near the bottom. He's made huge mistakes. It's definitely reasonable to gamble that Kerry will be above Bush on the curve.

And we don't need to gamble because we know at least some differences between Bush and Kerry. We know Kerry wanted more time for the inspections. We know Kerry doesn't have the arrogant I-could-care-less-what-the-UN-thinks-even-though-they-might-be-right attitude. The fact is Osama wants Bush to win because he is inflamming Arab hatred. Hence, there are tons of reasons to think kerry will do a much better job than Bush no matter what his plan is.

Moreover, I find it highly unlikely if we had a Democrat in the whitehouse that you'd want to "stay the course."
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I would stay the course if it was the right candidate to do so. I don't subscribe to the idea that if we don't know anything we need to change. I can't base my decision on 1/2 of the eqaution w/o knowing anything about the other half.
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett

I would stay the course if it was the right candidate to do so. I don't subscribe to the idea that if we don't know anything we need to change. I can't base my decision on 1/2 of the eqaution w/o knowing anything about the other half.
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a) probability says there's a better chance anybody will be better
b) We know about Kerry. People have pointed out sources for you to find out if you really want to pretend you don't see a distinction. If you're honest you will just have to admit you don't like John Kerry and will support GWB no matter what.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

What do you know about it? It's hard. It's hard work 😉
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What do you know about it? :roll:

What's your point? Evidently Bush didn't have the ability to do the work. Also, notice how many vacations he took if it's so hard. Anybody could do a better job. Evidently, you are a failure-appeaser though.
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Geez, the people in this forum need to chill out. Guess no one here watches SNL.

I strongly dislike Bush and many of his policies, but I do not believe the Great War Hero is the answer.
 
Geez, the people in this forum need to chill out. Guess no one here watches SNL.
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Well, infosquawk is supposed to be the one with a sense of humor.... or so I have been told. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

What do you know about it? It's hard. It's hard work 😉
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What do you know about it? :roll:

What's your point? Evidently Bush didn't have the ability to do the work. Also, notice how many vacations he took if it's so hard. Anybody could do a better job. Evidently, you are a failure-appeaser though.
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Geez, the people in this forum need to chill out. Guess no one here watches SNL.

I strongly dislike Bush and many of his policies, but I do not believe the Great War Hero is the answer.
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Many of the "serious" posters here are far worse than any SNL parody.
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Can someone please explain what Kerry's plan of action is for fighting terrorism, and his plan of action for Iraq? This isn't a fecetious question.... I really can't pin it down.
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Cause you don't wanna pin it down. He's said it repeatedly. Do a google, can you pin that down?
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: Rob9874
I agree, I think both candidates are just saying, "I can do it better than him." However, whatever the course of action, I would prefer to stick with one administration throughout. I agree with Bush, that a change in leadership when we're in the middle of it isn't going to help the situation. And an argument will be, "Well, a change in leadership will help if the leader is better." But I think we all agree that neither candidate has a great plan. I think libs just want to get Bush out as punishment for getting us in, not because Kerry is going to be any better.
Click to expand...

That is kinda where I'm at with the whole thing. I'm just trying to see what all Kerry has to offer.
Click to expand...


Come on. Even if we didn't know anything about Kerry it would be wise to replace Bush. Take a look at the average quality of presidents in terms of foreign affairs over our history. Bush is seriously near the bottom. He's made huge mistakes. It's definitely reasonable to gamble that Kerry will be above Bush on the curve.

And we don't need to gamble because we know at least some differences between Bush and Kerry. We know Kerry wanted more time for the inspections. We know Kerry doesn't have the arrogant I-could-care-less-what-the-UN-thinks-even-though-they-might-be-right attitude. The fact is Osama wants Bush to win because he is inflamming Arab hatred. Hence, there are tons of reasons to think kerry will do a much better job than Bush no matter what his plan is.

Moreover, I find it highly unlikely if we had a Democrat in the whitehouse that you'd want to "stay the course."
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I still feel guilty about the Cambodians killed when Kerry and Hanoi Jane got us out of Vietnam in disgrace. He is just planning to do it again.

 
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