What is gun control?

[saxman]

What is gun control? All the time I hear people saying they are in support of gun control, or they are against gun control, but what is gun control? I'm sure we all agree that one of the purposes of "gun control" is to keep people safe(from criminals, from themselves, crazed maniacs, etc). But this still doesn't answer the question, what is gun control.

I'm curious as to what it actually is.

 

[Russ]

Gun control is hitting what you aim at.

Russ, NCNE

 

[DanC]

Amen

 

[yakko]

Dammit Russ that was my answer!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

RUSS, you never cease to amaze me.



Just don't ask for a $20.









Nik

 

[axelfox]

when you use BOTH hands

 

[saxman]

in terms of politics.....?

 

[BoberFett]

I'm with Russ.

 

[yakko]

axelfox,

Using both hands is not recommended.Learn how to shoot and you won't need two hands.

 

[Bozo Galora]

Gun control is issuing a license for children as young as four years of age to own a toy gun.

 

[nickdakick]

An illusion !

 

[Windogg]

<< Gun control is hitting what you aim at. >>

I would add &quot;Repeatedly&quot; to it.

Windogg

 

[nickdakick]

<< Using both hands is not recommended >>


This is still about guns, right ?confused

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[yakko]

hahahahaha!!!!

Yes I am still talking about guns.

 

[IronMike]

Now I understand the expression &quot;gun nuts are attempting to extend their dicks&quot;. Many here are real macho with their keyboards. Would love to see you &quot;men&quot; one on one.
In answer to your question, unfortunately it is different things to different people. The extremes on both sides take a hard line approach to the subject with no middle ground where we can work to resolve our differences.
LEFT - Only police and military should have guns.
RIGHT - The right to bear arms is part of the ten commandments.

 

[DaBoneHead]

Gun Control is many things to many people... A general term.

For me, it is when the country starts enforcing the laws it has on the books, rather than just pass additional laws with no teeth.

For the paranoid, it means reigning the only means that they can defend themselves with. Taking away their 'equalizer'.

For the liberal, it means taking away 'unreasonable' weapons, like AK-47s and small, easily concealible (SP?) pistols.

The problem is, with the execption of the usual cocky answers, no one really has defined what gun control is, other than it is needed (even if it means using 2 hands )

 

[DanC]

Sheesh...
I won't comment on IronMike's attempts to inflame... however -



<< The right to bear arms is part of the ten commandments. >>



Wrong - It's in the constitution.

 

[Viper GTS]

Gun control is making her come before you do.

:Q

Viper GTS

 

[Lalakai]

A generic definition might be the methods that would/are utilized so that firearms are used in a safe manner.

unfortunately there are many definitions of &quot;safe&quot;, &quot;firearms&quot;, and &quot;used&quot;. Example: can any fully automatic firearm be used safely, can any firearm be used safely, is &quot;using&quot; a firearm defined as the act of defending or for procuring food.

some people categorically define all firearms as too dangerous for a civilian to use. Some use the definition between automatic, semi-automatic or single shot as the criteria identifying firearms that are safe, or even to be allowed private ownership.

try this: define at what size, weight, and maximum speed a motor vehicle is considered safe, them develop controls so that usage of motor vehicles will not cause accidents.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

ViperGTS,
that would be cum

 

[DanC]

Lalakai -
You raise some interesting points. This one particularly poignant:


<< some people categorically define all firearms as too dangerous for a civilian to use >>



&quot;some people&quot; as we know, are idiots. Others are not. The basic premise to the right to keep and bear arms as intended by the framers of the constitution was to ensure that government could never become so oppressive to thwart its armed overthrow by the citizenry if it became necessary. Hunting and sport also play a role.

There are some who will say &quot;[expletive deleted]&quot; - the military would crush a revolt. No rag-tag bunch of civilians could ever compete with the military.&quot; Don't be too sure of that. One only has to look at the difficulty that &quot;modern&quot; troops had in Southeast Asia, and in Afghanistan to know that even poorly armed people who are fighting for what they believe in, can inflict massive losses on an aggressor. For an albeit hollywood version, but nonetheless compelling illustration - the movie &quot;Red Dawn&quot; has some interesting scenarios for those who would disarm the populace.

Oh - almost forgot...

 

[IronMike]

Jeeze, I can't believe that I failed in trolling for a some action in this thread.
The far right thinks the constitution is in the ten commandments or versa vicey.
Just wanted to add that the most liberal person that I have ever known, did not favor gun control because of Hitler's success in Germany.

 

[Lalakai]

DanC, I was repeating some definitions that I had heard applied to the topic of &quot;Gun control&quot;.

We've become too complacent in laying the blame elsewhere rather then saying that we ourselves have failed. It's always the teachers' fault that &quot;Johnny&quot; can't read, &quot;Suzie&quot; only got the job due to her being a female, &quot;just because I'm stealing your car doesn't give you the right to use force in stopping me, so now I'll sue you&quot;.

Too many parents don't want to take responsibility for their children and would rather leave it up to the teachers, coaches, day-care providers, anyone except them; they are too busy and have higher priorities. It's easier to bury their heads in the sand and blame someone else. Oh well, it's America; land of the craven and stupid.

and before you start complaining, how many of you have voted more then 4 times in the last 2 years???? Are you on any community action groups, do you volunteer, who are your state and local representatives, have you read the constitution???? Ie, learn your own backyard before you start trying to run your neighbor's.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Gun control us PEOPLE CONTROL.

It doesn't matter how much the government taxes/limits the rights of legal gun owners. Yes, that's right: legal gun owners. Clinton has lied so much about his so-called gun control laws that it's blatantly slapping gun owners in the face (not to mension the position that he holds as a leader).

Criminals will always be able to get ahold of guns. If these damn gun laws keep going on the track that they are on now, we'll end up with the public being ran-sacked by these criminals, the police trying to do what they can to aprehend them, and the public standing by --defenseless and powerless. And the police still won't be able to do the job that they should be able to do because the crime rate will be so high that they'll need more man-power, supplies, armaments, etc. and the federal government will just keep taking money out of public schools and other programs including law enforcement and medicare just to fund their Nasa projects or their international relations or their international trade.

no gunz = no peace

It sounds funny, but it's isn't that far from the truth. It is very possible.

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Am I saying that every person should buy a gun when they turn 18 or 21? Am I saying that everyone should shoot the first person who pisses them off? No. But that might happen. Only a lowered society standard is to blame for that.
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