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krumme

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Reviews of tech stuff are now commodities, especially with things like Youtube.

Sure one can say Anand reviews tends to be really technically in-depth which I will be the first to say I enjoy reading that and more than appreciate the effort, but ultimately that has little to no bearing to influence a purchase decision.
This. Its a business challenge. What pays for quality content. How to capitalize on a premium brand.

And to be frank. Using eg Andrei or Ryan to run simple benchmarking and writeups is idiotic and huge waste of talent and a short term solution anyway.

The solution is a new owner that can evolve this site from income derived from eg. Motherboards adds to something else. (We see the adds changing already)
 
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krumme

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Same here.

I guess I'll have to try reading german agian. Thought I left that behind in highschool.
French german and Swedish. We have the 3 good review sites here. Plenty of good stuff. No need for more of the same or less good of the same stuff.
 

lixlax

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Not only that, but it seems they have ventured towards more "IT" tech vs consumer tech in regards to news, etc.

It used to be you would refresh page constantly to hope for review of some hot product, but now its not even worth it.

Indepth review is nice, but not reviewing up and coming products and just the "hot" stuff is what kills a site.


Motherboard reviews are almost nonexistent. They used to do random articles like motherboard roundups for the year, or CPU roundups.

But it just..stopped.

Is there a tech website that is like that anymore, or is it all just copy and paste PR notices? Most the ones people link to here are in another language with bad translation, or with terrible layouts, or just gosip websites.
Agreed. They are just following where the attention and money is. Unfortunately for the likes as us the desktop market is slowly but surely fading year by year. And as there is less to be made, we get slower progress in return.

For example when was the last time something really exciting was released at the CPU front- Bulldozer, Nehalem? The clockspeed has been around the same ballpark for about 15 years, for the last 5-6 years both vendors have released new architectures with only minor IPC increases and even the mainstream core count have been almost the same for almost a decade. The roundups are nowhere near as interesting as they used to be.
 
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DeathReborn

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The biggest issues are the articles unfinished and the articles promised but not delivered. Perch are steering the AnandTech ship into rough seas and it could well be a 1 way trip to the bottom.
 

Pandamonia

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When Anand gets fired after working at Apple and realising that company owners cant work for corporate monsters like Apple.

Lets hope he starts a new website.
 

Elixer

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Purch said they were going to do a "hands off" approach, but, clearly, this isn't working very well.
There isn't enough time for Ryan to do everything that he wants to do AND keep the site up to date with the latest and newest toys, so pre/reviews are delayed, and well, once the cat is out of the bag, there isn't much use to check the AT version once it is finally out.
The benchmarks/games they do run are all pretty old now, and they really need to come up with better ways of reviewing things, have frame timing, clock frequency monitoring, and so on.
Purch / Ryan needs to hire a new tech editor that can help with all that, unless of course, their plan is to be a phone review site, and have everything else as a after-thought.

It isn't just unfinished articles though, they still have up articles that are more PR than facts and people need to come to the forums to be able to learn that actual truth, and those articles are never corrected.
 

railven

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It seems a running trend in a lot of online sites I use to frequent. It's the death of the ad-revenue model and everyone using ad-blockers and what not.

Sites have to resort to nefarious methods of driving in traffic to generate income. Anandtech hasn't reach those points in my opinion but it's clearly hurting their content (possibly due to loss income/revenue).

Some sites are going as far as to require you to turn off your ad-blocker. To those sites I say bye-bye. Or worse, the sites that try to load 10-20MBs of ads/spam/ad-ware. Woof.

Youtube community is also eating their lunch.
 

poohbear

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well i must say its pretty lame that all the tech sites had hardware reviews out for GTX 1070 and anandtech is missing in action. Definitely not the same site as it used to be, i just come here now for the forums really. The reviews and analysis have nose dived.
 
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Zstream

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It seems a running trend in a lot of online sites I use to frequent. It's the death of the ad-revenue model and everyone using ad-blockers and what not.

Sites have to resort to nefarious methods of driving in traffic to generate income. Anandtech hasn't reach those points in my opinion but it's clearly hurting their content (possibly due to loss income/revenue).

Some sites are going as far as to require you to turn off your ad-blocker. To those sites I say bye-bye. Or worse, the sites that try to load 10-20MBs of ads/spam/ad-ware. Woof.

Youtube community is also eating their lunch.

It's ignorant people that think all information should be free. Having an add blocker for content that you didn't make is stealing, no matter how you look at it (convenience or not).
 

exar333

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It's ignorant people that think all information should be free. Having an add blocker for content that you didn't make is stealing, no matter how you look at it (convenience or not).

When those ads don't pop-up and/or cause the screens to load upwards of 20 seconds, I may consider removing my ad blocker. Until, I will not tolerate poorly written (at best) and dangerous (at worst) ads when browsing.

Back on topic....

I was REALLY disappointed with the 'preview' for the 1080 release. It was basically a fluff piece and the only products you can expect on release date here anymore are Apple.

I used to come here first, for almost all reviews. Now, not so much. It has all gone downhill rather fast.
 

railven

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It's ignorant people that think all information should be free. Having an add blocker for content that you didn't make is stealing, no matter how you look at it (convenience or not).

Give me a subscription model, if it's a site I like - watch me sign up.

There was a time when I paid for 3 magazine subs. It was worth it. They went the way of the dodo and their online versions suffered for it.

But I won't cry crocodile tears when a site tells me to turn off my ad-blocker and suddenly this happens:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ker-serves-up-steaming-pile-malware-ads.shtml

EDIT: And have you visited some of these sites on mobile phones? Woof. It's like the late 90's early 2000's all over again with sites taking almost minutes to load, locking up your device, only for a pop-up to take you to another site and constantly trying to go back leaves you stuck in a loop. Not worth my time.
 
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exar333

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Give me a subscription model, if it's a site I like - watch me sign up.

There was a time when I paid for 3 magazine subs. It was worth it. They went the way of the dodo and their online versions suffered for it.

But I won't cry crocodile tears when a site tells me to turn off my ad-blocker and suddenly this happens:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ker-serves-up-steaming-pile-malware-ads.shtml

EDIT: And have you visited some of these sites on mobile phones? Woof. It's like the late 90's early 2000's all over again with sites taking almost minutes to load, locking up your device, only for a pop-up to take you to another site and constantly trying to go back leaves you stuck in a loop. Not worth my time.

Agree and definitely not surprised. :)
 

StrangerGuy

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It's ignorant people that think all information should be free. Having an add blocker for content that you didn't make is stealing, no matter how you look at it (convenience or not).

We would take your holier-than-thou anti-adblocker high horse more seriously if you and your ad network scumbuddies actually pays for all their malware damages they caused while wasting our bandwidth and time.

Otherwise, STFU about your entitlement syndrome.
 

DA CPU WIZARD

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Any other sites provide reviews as detailed and informative as those on AT? They are unchallenged, albeit when they actually provide a review. But my curiosity is getting the best of me and I want a quality article to dig into.
 

24601

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Any other sites provide reviews as detailed and informative as those on AT? They are unchallenged, albeit when they actually provide a review. But my curiosity is getting the best of me and I want a quality article to dig into.

Not in english.

http://www.hardware.fr/
http://www.sweclockers.com/
http://pclab.pl/art.html
http://gamegpu.com/
http://www.expreview.com/
https://benchlife.info/
http://fcenter.ru/online/hardarticles
http://www.3dcenter.org/

Reading detailed technical information through google translate is probably not the best idea though.
 
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DA CPU WIZARD

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24601

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Great, thanks. But how in the world are they managing without the same amount of eyeballs or prestige as AT? :eek:

Cuz them's a buncha commies :p

But seriously though, better educational systems breed better consumers.

These sites don't cater to the Apple Mania crowd or the console peasants.

It's a massive cultural difference between US culture and the culture of most of the socialist world.
 

Bacon1

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Give me a subscription model, if it's a site I like - watch me sign up.

There was a time when I paid for 3 magazine subs. It was worth it. They went the way of the dodo and their online versions suffered for it.

But I won't cry crocodile tears when a site tells me to turn off my ad-blocker and suddenly this happens:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ker-serves-up-steaming-pile-malware-ads.shtml

EDIT: And have you visited some of these sites on mobile phones? Woof. It's like the late 90's early 2000's all over again with sites taking almost minutes to load, locking up your device, only for a pop-up to take you to another site and constantly trying to go back leaves you stuck in a loop. Not worth my time.

Not sure why they go nuts with ads. Its the monitized clicks for purchases that make good money. Write about the latest XYZ with a link to amazon/newegg/EU site that gives you 1-2% off everything they purchase. When they buy a $1000 new system you get $10-20. Easy money I did it for a while many years ago with a small side site.
 

Yongsta

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We would take your holier-than-thou anti-adblocker high horse more seriously if you and your ad network scumbuddies actually pays for all their malware damages they caused while wasting our bandwidth and time.

Otherwise, STFU about your entitlement syndrome.

The entitlement syndrome goes both ways. Content providers that want revenue and people who consume content and want it for free. I've found that the noscript plugin works great in blocking malware but at the same time allowing ads to load (I Haven't had malware on my desktop since 2008).
 

Shmee

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While I would like to see good, and on time reviews of the new GPUs, particularly in depth reviews of custom 1080s with OC, I understand that to do a good review takes time and effort. For AT to continue to do good reviews, reviews that are not just click bait like some other sites, they may need to wait for good driver updates, and of course take time with proper testing methodology.

In other words, I would prefer a complete, proper review be late than an early rushed one.

Also, while this is a legitimate concern, so I will allow it for now, remember to be civil, and on topic.
 

maddogmcgee

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Broadwell-E came out as soon as the embargo was lifted. One of the few tech sites I browse that did.
 

Ryan Smith

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Also, while this is a legitimate concern, so I will allow it for now, remember to be civil, and on topic.
Thanks Shmee. This is being read, even if I'm not necessarily going to answer every comment.:)

Broadwell-E came out as soon as the embargo was lifted. One of the few tech sites I browse that did.
Coincidentally, if you want to know what I've been doing today, it's editing and adding material to that review. Thankfully we had enough lead-time there ahead of Computex that everything worked out.

Anyhow, we're in a mad crunch right now because of Computex. In previous years major GPU architectures have launched in slow periods. Instead this year we have back-to-back architecture unveils - Pascal and Bifrost - along with a great deal of other stuff.

Don't think that GPU reviews are a low priority, because they're not. GPUs are what I personally love to write about. But it takes time to do the necessary research and writing, and with everything packed in, that time has been in short supply. Plus I'm not able to pull all-nighters like I once did.:p
 

wahdangun

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Thanks Shmee. This is being read, even if I'm not necessarily going to answer every comment.:)

Coincidentally, if you want to know what I've been doing today, it's editing and adding material to that review. Thankfully we had enough lead-time there ahead of Computex that everything worked out.

Anyhow, we're in a mad crunch right now because of Computex. In previous years major GPU architectures have launched in slow periods. Instead this year we have back-to-back architecture unveils - Pascal and Bifrost - along with a great deal of other stuff.

Don't think that GPU reviews are a low priority, because they're not. GPUs are what I personally love to write about. But it takes time to do the necessary research and writing, and with everything packed in, that time has been in short supply. Plus I'm not able to pull all-nighters like I once did.:p

so can we expect detail about polaris ??

since pascal launch was just another maxwell, its on AMD turn to make me excited for GPU.