What is equivalent to a 2500K today?

[AViking]

I need to build a system that is at least as fast as my 2500K. What CPU would that be today? What motherboard platform? I think the 2500K is on a P67 Extreme 4.

Thanks

 

[ShintaiDK]

4670K on Z87.

 

[NTMBK]

A 2500k.

 

[SPBHM]

without considering overclocking on the 2500K, I think the 4430 + H81 MB would deliver something comparable.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

3570K/3770K -> existing mobo
4670K/4770K -> Z87

Take you pick. CPUs have been boring lately.

 

[AViking]

Yeah the 2500K and my motherboard will be staying in the States. I'm building something equivalent for my place in Sweden.

It's going to be used for Photoshop and post processing so I want something similar with 16GB of memory, 1Gbps internet, and fast USB. Onboard sound is fine and if the onboard video is faster than a GTX 260 nowadays then that would be amazing.

What's the main difference between these motherboards? The price difference is pretty substantial.

Also, while I'm at it, does anyone know if I can just bring a PSU over here, switch from 110 to 220 on the back, and just buy a new cable over here? I think psus are actually auto now so the switch isn't even needed but I want to be sure.

 

[ShintaiDK]

PSU are usually autosense. No "switch" needed.

 

[Arkaign]

Onboard video will not be as fast as GT260. You could get by with a GT650 non-Ti though, which are really cheap and super low power.

Just get an AsRock Z87 mobo, no reason to go bananas with super pricey mobos. Asrock Z87 will do 16GB ram, have Gbit lan, and decent onboard sound, along with USB3, etc. The only reason for expensive Z87 boards is for people that need dual Gbit lan, more than 6 Sata ports, SLI/CF, and the like. You can also get more power phases, but to be honest, I haven't ANY OC difference between $300 Maximus Formula and $90 Micro Center Asrock Z87 with Haswell CPUs. One will stick at 4.5Ghz on the Asrock, then same 4.5Ghz on the Maximus. Ditto the average Haswell getting stuck at 4.2/4.3, the limit is actually the silicon and TIM dual lottery that those CPUs have. Besides, with Haswell, you get good enough performance without OC. Because they strip a bunch of features out of the K chips now, you will probably get the best professional app performance with a 4770 instead of 4670K/4770K. You also get the bonus of the non-K chip being a bit cheaper. Most people agree that overclocking business machines to be a non-starter anyway.

 

[tweakboy]

Stick with your 2500k and give her a good OC. Your set.

 

[Gikaseixas]

without considering overclocking on the 2500K, I think the 4430 + H81 MB would deliver something comparable.

This

 

[tweakboy]

Nice Haswell rig brother gikasixas

 

[AViking]

I don't think the H81 supports enough SATA devices. I generally have several hard drives (I'm trying to cut down but right now I have 5) and a DVD burner. From what I see they have 2 fast ones and 2 regular ones. That's ideal for a setup with 2 hard drives and no more. I haven't run with 2 drives since the 1990's.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Because they strip a bunch of features out of the K chips now, you will probably get the best professional app performance with a 4770 instead of 4670K/4770K. You also get the bonus of the non-K chip being a bit cheaper. Most people agree that overclocking business machines to be a non-starter anyway.

4771, not 4770. At stock speeds, the 4771 is equal to the 4770K.

 

[Alan G]

I'm a photographer and will weigh in from that perspective. I think the 4670 is sufficient for your needs (I run an Ivy Bridge i5). I'm not sure about how well Intel on board graphics is for photo processing, I've not tried it (it works fine for home theater TV). I'm using a GeForce GTX 660 which works just fine for Photoshop (Lightroom at this point doesn't require much in the way of GPU power and most of my work is done there). 2GB GTX 660 cards have come down in price recently. I'm on an ASUS Z77 MoBo and my principal back up is a USB3 WD external drive which works fast enough. I also have a USB 3.0 external card reader which is obviously much faster than the older USB 2.0 (I don't think you can get internal USB 3.0 card readers at this point).

Hope this helps.

 

[AViking]

I'm going to dig out my old GTX260 and use it. That has to be enough for photoshop right?

Price wise the Asrock Z87 mobo with a 4670 looks ok. As long as that's as fast or a smidgen faster than a 2500K I'd be happy. If the 4430 is comparable I'd get that. I just want whatever is as close to the same performance.

I messed around with CPU charts and the closest I could find was a i5 3470 which is Ivy Bridge. The new Haswell 4430 is the same price but it's not on the CPU chart but I take from the reviews that it's about 10% better.

 

[DominionSeraph]

It's going to be used for Photoshop and post processing

Xeon E3-1230 v3 in a ASRock H87M Pro4.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116906
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157384

 

[SPBHM]

I don't think the H81 supports enough SATA devices. I generally have several hard drives (I'm trying to cut down but right now I have 5) and a DVD burner. From what I see they have 2 fast ones and 2 regular ones. That's ideal for a setup with 2 hard drives and no more. I haven't run with 2 drives since the 1990's.

H81 have 2 Sata III and 2 sata II, so yes, you would need an external chip to have more sata ports with it, your p67 have 2 sata III and 4 sata II (so it's only adequate for 2 drives by your definition).


if you need more, b85 offers 4 sata III and 2 sata II (but many cheap MBs will only use the 4 sata III), and H/Z87 have 6 sata III...
but for mechanical HDs sata III is irrelevant I think.

 

[Arkaign]

Xeon E3-1230 v3 in a ASRock H87M Pro4.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116906
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157384

That is probably the best combo for the job right there. Also 6x6Gbps SataIII, so no potential worries down the line should you pack it full of SSDs.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Well, if you're in the States still and have a Microcenter nearby, hard to beat an open box mobo + 4670K/4770K since they _usually_ let you apply their combo discounts (at least the one near me does).

 

[tweakboy]

He needs a 6 core machine 12T. If hes doing Photoshop and DVD creating apps... gl

 

[AViking]

Yeah not going to be an option. I'm having family bring over parts for the holidays.

That Asrock mobo looks like a good fit for what I need. I'm not seeing the benefit of spending $70 more for a CPU by getting that Xeon. Isn't the 4430 really close to the same performance and a good bang for the buck?

 

[DominionSeraph]

That Asrock mobo looks like a good fit for what I need. I'm not seeing the benefit of spending $70 more for a CPU by getting that Xeon. Isn't the 4430 really close to the same performance and a good bang for the buck?

The Xeon is going to have a performance advantage. The hyperthreading will give it around 20% clock for clock, and it's at a 10% clockspeed advantage with a higher turbo over the 4430. 2MB more cache as well.
Now, if what you're doing is lightweight, the absolute difference is going to be negligible. But if your i5 is making you wait, I'd go for the Xeon.

 

[JBT]

Damn it, why do you guys post stuff like this.... I have NO reason to upgrade but that combo sounds awesome..

 

[Tuna-Fish]

PSU are usually autosense. No "switch" needed.

The most modern ones are. A lot of older, pre-active PFC ones that are still in use contain a switch. And if you plug the PSU into a 230V outlet with the switch in the wrong position, it will blow up, and probably light on fire. A lot us Europeans have found out the hard way that yes, electronics manufacturers put switches on their gear that destroy them if they are in the wrong position.