what is celeron M??

[The Green Bean]

is it any good?

 

[JSt0rm]

I think its a crippled centrino with less l2 cache

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its a crippled centrino with less l2 cache

better than a regular celeron?

 

[JSt0rm]

I really don't know the answer to that. I would assume so but maybe do some research on it.

 

[dannybek]

Hatim,

Basically half the cache of the PentiumM as jStorm1 mentioned. Also if your looking to use the laptop for heavy application use look elsewhere. Other than that it is just fine.

 

[The Green Bean]

http://www.beliscity.com/shop/Laptops.asp

I have a choice between these. Which is the best value.
Need a light notebook prefereably. Mainly for basic net use. Gaming will be a bonus though if I can play games like CnC generals. Im leaning towards the Compaq since its pretty good value and has decent graphics card.

Ive not had much (any) experience with laptops but I need it for long trips. Ie - short journeys long stay. Is the Compaq too heavy to just "carry" it on the plane?

 

[Commodus]

The Celeron M is basically a Pentium M with a lot less L2 (I think it's 256K versus 2 MB). It's certainly better than a regular Celeron, but still likely not a match for the higher-end chips.

 

[WackyDan]

From my experience with two ThinkPads with the Cel M, they are slow in everything. Very disappointing.

 

[patsfan33]

The Celeron M has 512k of L2 cache.The Pentium M has 2 full megs L2. The Celeron D has 256k of L2 cache. The front side bus is 400 Mhz on Celeron M.

 

[saltedeggman]

Originally posted by: patsfan33
The Celeron M has 512k of L2 cache.The Pentium M has 2 full megs L2. The Celeron D has 256k of L2 cache. The front side bus is 400 Mhz on Celeron M.

also more power-hungry

 

[vegetation]

Celeron-M has its speedstep circuitry disabled. Meaning it wont throttle down as a Pentium-M does. The power savings of throttling is quite a lot, and reduces heat, which in turn means the cpu fan doesn't need to spin up as often. So in the end, if you value battery life and like a quiet system, it's best you pass on the Celeron-M and pay the extra for the Pentium-M.

 

[The Green Bean]

hows a 9000 radeon compare to Extreme graphics 2? Will I be able to game on either. I can't seem to make my mind up. Should I go for light or loaded?

Acer Travelmate 4001
Intel® Centrino? 1.5Ghz-M Processor w/1MB Cache 2
Price Rs: 73000 /- ($1200)

OR

IBM Thinkpad R40e TE
Intel® Celeron® 2.4Ghz-M Processor 256MB Memory
Price Rs: 69000 /- ($1150)

or

Dell Inspiron 5150 I
Intel® Pentium® 4 2.8Ghz Processor 256MB Memory R
Price Rs: 74000 /- ($1200)

OR

Acer Travel Mate 4001 LCi
Intel Centrino 1.5 Ghz,
256 MB, 40 GB ... more info

Our Price: Rs. 71,000.00 ($1200)

OR

Compaq Presario R3000
Intel Pentium IV 2.8 Ghz,
512 MB, 60 GB... more info

Our Price: Rs. 76,000.00 ($1350)

Ive narrowed it down to these
Also could anyone tell me the weights for each one? And the Graphics card on each? I know things are more expensive here but....
Gaming on anything less than a radeon 9000 is a joke but I dont which to get.

 

[The Green Bean]

And an extra 256MB costs about 60-70$ so I can throw that in too.

 

[Commodus]

Neither the Radeon 9000 nor the Intel Extreme Graphics 2 are particularly fast for gaming, but I'd actually give the nod to the 9000 since it has its own video memory.

I would be steering clear of the Celeron Ms, and if possible the Pentium 4s as well. The former is just too slow (it'd make the 1.2 GHz G4 in an iBook look fast), and the latter tends to be confined to laptops that are thick and/or short on battery life.

As far as what's left, I'd say this: if the video performance isn't great, go for thin-and-light; if it is, extra bulk isn't much of a problem. You can technically get laptops that are both thin AND fast (Voodoo PC is a good example), but you invariably end up paying a lot.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Commodus
Neither the Radeon 9000 nor the Intel Extreme Graphics 2 are particularly fast for gaming, but I'd actually give the nod to the 9000 since it has its own video memory.

I would be steering clear of the Celeron Ms, and if possible the Pentium 4s as well. The former is just too slow (it'd make the 1.2 GHz G4 in an iBook look fast), and the latter tends to be confined to laptops that are thick and/or short on battery life.

As far as what's left, I'd say this: if the video performance isn't great, go for thin-and-light; if it is, extra bulk isn't much of a problem. You can technically get laptops that are both thin AND fast (Voodoo PC is a good example), but you invariably end up paying a lot.

Gaming isnt my primary concern since I have a pretty decent desktop at home. More about surfing the web and trillian. Hell with extremegraphics I won't be playing anything more than CS. But the 9000 won't play new games either. And since I havent seen a laptop online in my city within my price range with both a 9000 and a pentium M, Ill just go with the cheapest PM (1.4G) I can find cuz gamings will be out of the Q anyways with EG. And I donot use too many havy apps as well.

 

[uOpt]

As others have said, the Celeron-M lacks some power saving features.

Regarding Intel graphics and dedicated chip: the Intel solution doesn't even have hardware T&L. It is very weak, drivers would be the only reason to prefer it over an ATI chip.

 

[Smbu]

IBM Thinkpad R40e TE
Intel® Celeron® 2.4Ghz-M Processor 256MB Memory
Price Rs: 69000 /- ($1150)

This isn't the Celeron-M everybody has been mentioning. This one is the one based on the Pentium-4 mobile chip. So this will be even slower and use much more power than the P-M based Celeron-M. That Celeron-M only goes up to 1.5ghz I believe.

"And since I havent seen a laptop online in my city within my price range with both a 9000 and a pentium M, Ill just go with the cheapest PM (1.4G) "

Well recently Dell had the Inspiron 600m laptop on sale(along with all of those others with the $750 coupon). Too bad it's over though.

I ordered an Inspiron 600m with:
1.6ghz Pentium-M (Dothan 2mb L2 cache)
14.1" SXGA+ lcd
64mb Radeon 9000 vid card
512mb RAM
8X DVDRW drive
Dell wireless b/g card
30gb hd(going to be replacing with 60gb 7200rpm hd)

for $990 (will be $940 once I receive my $49 shipping rebate)

BTW I find that the Radeon 9000 is a very decent vid card for a laptop. I currently have an Inspiron 600m(yes I ordered another one!) and it's been serving me fine for the past +1 years(with the 32mb radeon 9000). Although, the only current game i'm playing on it is Madden 2005. It runs fine on that.

 

[arsbanned]

Yep, wait for a gotapex deal on a Dell laptop. Get a Pentium M based unit. Latitiude D600 or something along those lines would be a good machine for your needs. You'll get a lot more machine for less money if you play it smart.

 

[The Green Bean]

im from karachi
Nyways; how does a celeron 2.6 compare with a P4? It has a 9000 on it. How would it compare with a 1.5P-M with intel extreme graphics. And how about against a desktop P4 1.8GHZ?

 

[The Green Bean]

$300 worth it on upgrading the 2.6 cely to 2.8 P4?

 

[piasabird]

Intel had a 400Mhz FSB Celeron the mobile processor for laptops has twice the L2 Cache and is designed so it can be overclocked or underclocked to save power. It is about the same as one of the earlier P4's with 256k L2 Cache. I dont know how this works out for the 533FSB Celerons.

Note: I have never owned a Notebook Computer. Oops.

 

[piasabird]

There was an article on anandtech about Intel Processors and it listed a Celeron M380 with a 1MB L2 Cache. So it may make a big difference which Celeron M you are looking at.

Here is a link:

Celeron M Chart

I dont think these are available yet.

 

[The Green Bean]

Fianlly decided on this: http://shopper.cnet.com/Compaq...p;orderby=90&sort=

Comapq Presario R3000 - P4 2.8GHZ 533MHZ. 512MB ram, Radeon 9000, 15.4" WXGA...All for 1200$

 

[geejo]

Which core is celeron M based on banias or Dothan?

 

[LordPhoenix]

celeron mobile