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What IS Bushes fault????

techs

techs

Lifer
Stop the b.s.
What exactly is Bushes fault?
What exactly were the things he is responsible for?

As President and Leader of his party he:
Pushed and passed huge tax cuts which favored the very few rich.
He proposed and got passed huge spending increases on top of his tax cuts resulting in staggering deficits.
He said "Deficits don't matter" and his party and bushies followed that insane reasoning.
Bushes policies resulted in the largest decrease in the value of the US dollar. Ever.
He pushed and passed a tax cut that actually subsidized the purchase of the largest, most fuel IN-efficient s.u.v."s
He told us we didn't have to worry about the gas problems since a majority of us would be driving hydrogen cars in, well, nine years of now.
Bush pushed deregulation and lack of oversight of markets, resulting in the huge sub prime mortage fiasco.
Bush pushed biased trade with China that resulted in American wage stagnation.
Bush fought proposals to increase corporate fuel economy numbers, and in fact proposed to revamp them to make it easier to make less fuel efficient cars (well he failed to make cars less fuel efficient, so I am only blaming him for not pushing to make them more efficient)
Bushes complete reversal of policy on North Korea resulted in them actually testing a bomb. And then he went back to the policies of Clinton and Albright and actually got a deal with N. Korea. Though he could have done it without N. Korea actually testing a bomb.
Bush buried his head in the sand while people suffered and died in New Orleans.
Bush, well, Iraq. Nuff said on this one.

Gee, that's just off the top of my head.
Bush Denial Syndrome, the disease where the President is powerless to do anything and everything that happens isn't the President fault. Also, the absolute conviction the world will come to an end if a Republican is not elected President.
See why its a disease?
 
The only problem with associating some of these problems to Bush, is that psychologically, on some level, we might feel like we have a victory in finally having him out of office. Some people are more than willing to give a free pass to the next Pres as long as he 'isn't as bad.' I come from a school of thought where the current system represents both parties as 2 sides of a coin, like a faux choice. Same boss, different suit. People are going to go right back to sleep after the election.

I just feel like this is dangerous. Honestly.. I would love it if Bush pulled something to stay for another 4 years. We need a tyrrant we recognize. As a nation.. we aren't going to take responsibility for this horseshit unless we are pressed to it. We're getting there.. inspite of Bush. I hope it's inspite of the system... but I have my doubts.

 
I am in deep denial on any foul accusations that I have or ever will suffer from Bush denial Syndrome.

And techs, not all that bad of a short list for off the top of your head, but you forgot to mention the GWB rape of our constitution.

As I recall, we had a thread on what GWB&co has done right in nearly 8 years, and that was a very very short list.
 
As LL said you forgot to push the approval of torture, approval of people held indefinitely without charge, and warrantless wiretapping, essentially turning the constitution into toilet paper.

He is not just a bad president or the worst in decades, he is in fact a criminal.
 
How about recently in one of his 'economy' speeches..

He said, "We need to promote consumerism." Isn't consumerism what continues the US in this wasteful 'use and throw away' mentality where we spend ourselves into oblivion?

The economy is literally ripping itself apart and PEOPLE NEED TO GO OUT AND SPEND ALL THEIR FUCKING MONEY THEY DON'T HAVE!
 
See, this country was founded on the principal that no ONE man should ever have total control.

Yet the Bush haters (and current supporters) are laying a vast majority of Americas problems at his feet.

Is he somewhat culpable? Sure, but not SOLELY....for every freakin problem.

There are so many other people involved, Congress for instance.

Yet, it is so easy for people to put one person in the cross hairs and pull the trigger.

I am not defending him, but there are/were so many others involved, that at anytime, any one of them could have said "enough" and not followed suit.

If enough in congress had done that, both members of the same party or the opposition then no matter what Bush did or did not do, we would not have some of the problems we have today. What has the majority done in the last couple of years since coming to power?

Congressional greed, corruption and special interest for their particular districts on BOTH sides of the fence is far more responsible for our current mess than any one man.

But if it helps you sleep at night to place the blame on one person more power to you.
 
So if everything is Bush's fault that means that the Obama is going to fix everything, right?

I am a conservative that doesn't agree with everything that Bush did but I literally can't wait until a democrat gets into office because for the first time in 10 years they will have to put up or shut up. Either way things are better for me.
 
The only thing that was Bush's fault was a lack of ability in not being able to get a great constitutional legal scholar named Harriet Meirs appointed to the Supreme Court.
 
Originally posted by: Wheezer
See, this country was founded on the principal that no ONE man should ever have total control.

Yet the Bush haters (and current supporters) are laying a vast majority of Americas problems at his feet.

Is he somewhat culpable? Sure, but not SOLELY....for every freakin problem. ...
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Sorry, but I think that's a straw man argument. Those of us who criticize Bush rarely, if ever, claim a problem is solely Bush's fault, yet that's exactly the duhversion some of the Bush faithful will use: "Well hypothetically, if Clinton/Congress/Obama/anyone-but-Bush had done xyz, then Bush couldn't have screwed that pooch so dramatically. Therefore, you can't criticize Bush at all."

It's an empty argument, but it often serves its purpose, derailing the discussion into tangents instead of holding Bush responsible for the things he has done. I find it really hypocritical that the same people who will bray about "accountability" with others refuse to do so with their own party.
 
Originally posted by: Robor
Wouldn't it be easier to make a list of recent issues that aren't Bush's fault?
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No shit. The laundry list of Bush's fuckups are far too long to even start to list. It'd be MUCH easier to list the things he hasn't fucked up...
(you could fit that list on a small post-it note)
 
Oh how I love these threads.

Its like one fringe liberal sets up a softball for the rest of the fringe liberals to step up and knock out of the park.

Then everyone heads to the bar and gets the booth, not the table so they can circle jerk each other in complete anonymity.


So seriously now, what do threads like these do other than make me wish my ignore button worked?
Did you think a conservative was going to come in here and fight with you?
Do you really think your pathetic diatribe would convert some non-believer?
Or is it simply a fringe liberal "roll call"? <--------------
 
Originally posted by: Deudalus
Oh how I love these threads.

Its like one fringe liberal sets up a softball for the rest of the fringe liberals to step up and knock out of the park.

Then everyone heads to the bar and gets the booth, not the table so they can circle jerk each other in complete anonymity.


So seriously now, what do threads like these do other than make me wish my ignore button worked?
Did you think a conservative was going to come in here and fight with you?
Do you really think your pathetic diatribe would convert some non-believer?
Or is it simply a fringe liberal "roll call"? <--------------
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BVG

Bush
Voter
Guilt

:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Deudalus
Oh how I love these threads.

Its like one fringe liberal sets up a softball for the rest of the fringe liberals to step up and knock out of the park.

Then everyone heads to the bar and gets the booth, not the table so they can circle jerk each other in complete anonymity.


So seriously now, what do threads like these do other than make me wish my ignore button worked?
Did you think a conservative was going to come in here and fight with you?
Do you really think your pathetic diatribe would convert some non-believer?
Or is it simply a fringe liberal "roll call"? <--------------
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FWIW I do believe this thread spawned from another thread. I don't remember the specifics regarding thread/post but that's what I thought when I saw it.
 
What is Bush's fault?
According to his supporters, nothing. The man is a god.
According to his detractors, everything. The man is the devil incarnate.

And now we see what is wrong in America politics.
 
BUSH'S

I think he may be responsible for techs' inability to hit the enter key twice, thus, preventing him from making coherent paragraphs.

I kid! (kind of) 😛
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
The Bush hater and Bush supporter cottage industries are going to implode once he leaves office.
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They'll just re-tool for the new guy, business as usual.
 
clinton made the big push for chinese trade.

anyone remember why?

the theory was that if the US and china traded, china would develop a middle class that would begin pushing for political rights.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Deudalus
Oh how I love these threads.

Its like one fringe liberal sets up a softball for the rest of the fringe liberals to step up and knock out of the park.

Then everyone heads to the bar and gets the booth, not the table so they can circle jerk each other in complete anonymity.


So seriously now, what do threads like these do other than make me wish my ignore button worked?
Did you think a conservative was going to come in here and fight with you?
Do you really think your pathetic diatribe would convert some non-believer?
Or is it simply a fringe liberal "roll call"? <--------------
Click to expand...
BVG

Bush
Voter
Guilt

:laugh:
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Ahh labeling everyone who doesn't want to fill a link in that circle jink as being a Bush voter or having "Bush voter guilt" is so mature as well.

And you guys wonder why liberal is considered a dirty word.

You do realize that Republican candidates (for better or worse) have won past elections because they are fighting to see who can be the most conservative. They WANT to be labeled a conservative.

In contrast, Kerry for example and others lash out at being called "Number whatever most LIBERAL member of the Senate" and blame losing elections on being labeled a liberal. They DO NOT WANT to be labeled a liberal.

Hell thats why liberals call themselves progressives now adays because they know if they call themselves liberals no one will take them seriously.


Now why do you think that is? Is it because of some "vast right wing conspiracy" to ruin the use of the word liberal?

Or is it because you dumb bastards ruined it yourselves?


FWIW go ahead and pick on me some more and label me however you like because I don't tow the line.

But come November when you tards prance out Michael Stipe, The Dixie Chicks, Eddie Vedder, and the cast of Grey's Anatomy to talk people into voting for you and you manage to snag defeat from the jaws of victory again don't blame me.

Independents like myself just aren't welcome back into the Democrat party yet, unfortunately the party is still too bitter.

But maybe 4 years of McCain will change that.:roll:
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
The Bush hater and Bush supporter cottage industries are going to implode once he leaves office.
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Nah, it will continue just like it did before Bush. Remember, the same was said about Clinton.
 
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