I've used both @ 1Ghz and they BOTH are awesome...
Anyone that says Intel sucks is a moron. Anyone that says AMD sucks is a moron.
I think the REAL question is what "PLATEFORM" is the best.
I think Intel still has the better overall plateform, though AMD is gaining ground fast.
If I "HAD" to have the most absolute stable computer for something, I would biuld a BX system.
If I HAD to have the absolute gaming computer, I would build an AMD 760 w/1200@266 (when I could get my hands on one)
Anyone that says Intel sucks is a moron. Anyone that says AMD sucks is a moron.
I think the REAL question is what "PLATEFORM" is the best.
I think Intel still has the better overall plateform, though AMD is gaining ground fast.
If I "HAD" to have the most absolute stable computer for something, I would biuld a BX system.
If I HAD to have the absolute gaming computer, I would build an AMD 760 w/1200@266 (when I could get my hands on one)
You mean Platform, Windogg? For a minute there I thought I needed a fork to turn on my computer.
dexion, u mean whitedog? not windogg
for a minute there i thought "Who let the dogs out?"
for a minute there i thought "Who let the dogs out?"
AMD thunderbird is very good processor but little interested Intels cause nobody says nothing about them.Cogman, your friend is right that the Pentium is more reliable.
There are reasons to choose the Duron and there are reasons not to:
<< Duron 850 is also sharing the bad sides with its predecessors. It produces a lot more heat than Intel's Celeron or Pentium III processors and it is also lacking a thermal protection. The latter can easily lead to a sudden heat-death of Duron, in case the heat sink was not mounted properly or the heat sink's fan should cease to work. Besides that Duron used to suffer from the fact that it was requiring the same SocketA-platforms as Athlon, which happened to be targeted to the high-end segment, making them rather expensive. >>
More information at Tom's site.
The P4 is the first new CPU architect for years. AMD has yet to come up with something evolutionary. Until I understand why the Duron/Thunderbird consume 3-4 times more heat than Celeron/P3 for 10-20 % better performance, I will stay with the cooler CPU's.
There are reasons to choose the Duron and there are reasons not to:
<< Duron 850 is also sharing the bad sides with its predecessors. It produces a lot more heat than Intel's Celeron or Pentium III processors and it is also lacking a thermal protection. The latter can easily lead to a sudden heat-death of Duron, in case the heat sink was not mounted properly or the heat sink's fan should cease to work. Besides that Duron used to suffer from the fact that it was requiring the same SocketA-platforms as Athlon, which happened to be targeted to the high-end segment, making them rather expensive. >>
More information at Tom's site.
The P4 is the first new CPU architect for years. AMD has yet to come up with something evolutionary. Until I understand why the Duron/Thunderbird consume 3-4 times more heat than Celeron/P3 for 10-20 % better performance, I will stay with the cooler CPU's.
Are all you guys crazy? Cogman don't listen to these youths. They know nothing! Intel has had to many recalls, and suck for the money, and amd has always been inferior to Intel. I agree with Shawnmos baby! SAMUEL2 ALL THE WAY!!!
LOL, I'm only kidding guys, don't flame. But why do people post such stuff like this? The only thing is usually leads to is a flamewar, so it's pointless. It's all personal preference, and how much you got in your wallet.
However, if i was to choose a CPU, i would pick AMD because of the excelent price/performance ratio, and excelent speed.
LOL, I'm only kidding guys, don't flame. But why do people post such stuff like this? The only thing is usually leads to is a flamewar, so it's pointless. It's all personal preference, and how much you got in your wallet.
However, if i was to choose a CPU, i would pick AMD because of the excelent price/performance ratio, and excelent speed.
I could not have said it better myself.
Well spoken Informant X
I use to think that Intel was the greatest and just within the last 3 weeks I upgraded to my first AMD system and man o man i've been missing alot. Games Fly Now
Well spoken Informant X
I use to think that Intel was the greatest and just within the last 3 weeks I upgraded to my first AMD system and man o man i've been missing alot. Games Fly Now
<< The P4 is the first new CPU architect for years. AMD has yet to come up with something evolutionary. Until I understand why the Duron/Thunderbird consume 3-4 times more heat than Celeron/P3 for 10-20 % better performance, I will stay with the cooler CPU's. >>
I think we all seen what a Duron does to a sillyron(even at 100fsb), and what a Bird with Deadly Deadly Rate memory can do to a P4.
Check these benchies
Amd has come along way from what they used to be with the k6 line. It would be about time that ppl start to give credit where its do reguardless of the RUMORS of compatibility, InStability, and heat.
The pentium is a far more stable chip than the AMD. I wouldn't have an AMD in my computer. You get what you pay for! Also be real carefull applying heatsinks to the AMD, they crumble apart very easily.
Hey steel, ever heard of an alpha pal6035 lately? Please show me a review or some form of evidence where the Athlon failed a benchmark because it was not stable to run it. Last time i remember is when Tom,Anand,and Kyle got together in august for that P3 1.13 with that Linux benchie, Wonder what happen? :Q
steelthorn, do you have experience with crumbling AMD CPUs considering that you'd never put one in your system? Anyway, the processors are both perfectly stable, the only thing differentiating their stability is what chipset they are run on.
Sorry, I'm running late, but GUTB got banned from Firingsquad now??? LOL.... When did that happen... I know they were just as aggrivated with him as we were...
OK, here we go...
The reason that i think AMD is better than the Intel is for these three reasons-
1. AMD is MUCH CHEAPER, i.e. AMD TBird 1GHz=$174.00, PIII 1GHz=$333
2. AMD has faster FSB, i.e. all AMD CPU's have 200MHz FSB, whereas the P3III only has 100 and 133
3. AMD has more cache, i.e. AMD TBird has 64k L1 cache and 256k L2 cache, whereas the PIII only has 256
Thank you for your time....
The reason that i think AMD is better than the Intel is for these three reasons-
1. AMD is MUCH CHEAPER, i.e. AMD TBird 1GHz=$174.00, PIII 1GHz=$333
2. AMD has faster FSB, i.e. all AMD CPU's have 200MHz FSB, whereas the P3III only has 100 and 133
3. AMD has more cache, i.e. AMD TBird has 64k L1 cache and 256k L2 cache, whereas the PIII only has 256
Thank you for your time....
I cant beleave such BS hogwash as to state Intel is More stable cpu than AMD. another good one is its personal prefrence LOL
For the time being, AMD gives the most bang for the bucks at all speeds. Besides, for the combo of a P3-1GHz +256Mb RDRAM you can get a complete AMD-system that actually will outperform the more expensive system by far.
/Matt
/Matt
AMD chips do NOT dissipate far more heat than Intel competitors
however what I am NOT saying is that heat is not unfortunate. it is. but neither Intel nor AMD chips can run without a fan. get my point?
AMD has performance sewn up, and it has price advantage sewn up- at least for home users.
AMD 23802.pdf
Duron draws a maximum 35.4W @800
Celeron specs
Intel Celeron draws a maximum 28.7W @ 800
quod erat demonstrandum
however what I am NOT saying is that heat is not unfortunate. it is. but neither Intel nor AMD chips can run without a fan. get my point?
AMD has performance sewn up, and it has price advantage sewn up- at least for home users.
AMD 23802.pdf
Duron draws a maximum 35.4W @800
Celeron specs
Intel Celeron draws a maximum 28.7W @ 800
quod erat demonstrandum
the Duron has more cache and faster FSB, that is why it takes more to use, it is almost 2x as good as the celery
BaLLhAiR
BaLLhAiR
I was under the impression that Athlons all had 128Kb L1 cache... unlike some people here I won't badmouth AMD just because I have Intel inside my box. if you wanted a Celeron overclocked to match the Duron 800 I am sure it would get quite hot..!
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