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What is a Via Cyrix C3 700mhz equal to?

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jim620

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Any ideas what a Via Cyrix C3 700mhz is equal to? Celeron xxxmhz, Pentium 3 xxxmhz, Duron xxxmhz? Any sites out there with benchmarks and reviews of this thing?
 
A Casio Databank watch.. or a 2002 Dualit SupaToaster.

No, really, why care. You can't be buying this thing for perfomance reaasons so why should it matter?
 
There were some comparisons a while ago, and it wasn't very close. Working from fallible memory, a C3 might be 30% slower. That's on interger stuff. Floating point is well under 50%. Supposedly they OC pretty good, and run very cool, and may not need a fan, onlya heatsink. They used to say it only worked in VIA chipset mobos, so you better check if you buy one.

That's not necessarily bad. 500Mhz is usually plenty fast enough, for most people, and FP is seldom used in anything other than 3D games. The problem is, you can get a Duron that will run circles around it for maybe $5 more, the last time I looked. Not a great way to save $5, I don't think. Americans don't find absolute minimum systems as attractive as they do in other parts of the world that don't have money to burn. Even the lowest cost PC can be a luxury beyond most in much of the world.
 
My brother in law got this computer with this processor and he wanted to know if he could play some games on it.
 


<< My brother in law got this computer with this processor and he wanted to know if he could play some games on it. >>



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maybe...... with a geforce 3 with the latest drivers, set to 640x480x16 you can get 30fps in Quake, the 1st quake. HAHAHAHAHAHAAA games on a C3 ha! it just wont happen
 


<< My brother in law got this computer with this processor and he wanted to know if he could play some games on it. >>



Roughly equates to a Celeon 533MHz or so, usually a touch slower.
It's not much of a gaming processor as it's FPU performance is pretty sad.... but with a decent video card.. ie. GF2 Ti/Radeon 7500 or better you should be able to pull of 60FPS or so at 1024x768 in Quake 3 era games.
With a GF3 Ti200, or Radeon8500 or better you could probably manage 35FPS or so in RTCW and the like at 1024x768.

It's not very good for gaming, but it's at least useable in the low end if you have a good video card to back it up.

Those that purchase the Via C3 generally arent concerned overly much about performance. The hallmark of the C3 is it's extremely low power cinsuption and heat generation.
The C3 700MHz can easily run passively cooled with just a medium sized heatsink and still maintain decent temperatures.
 
I also have a Celeron 500 PPGA. Between this and the C3 which would be better for gaming if the video card is say a Radeon SDR or Geforce2 MX400?
 
I dont think there would be much in it between CPUs, although I'd guess that the Celeron has a better FPU.

Assuming thats the case, and you can get the Celeron to overclock (even slightly), then I'd choose that for a gaming system.

Hope that helps.
 


<< I also have a Celeron 500 PPGA. Between this and the C3 which would be better for gaming if the video card is say a Radeon SDR or Geforce2 MX400? >>



Their going to be extremely close. Personally I'd take the C3 because you can easily run it without a fan whereas the Celeron will need a HeatSink & Fan. The C3 will probably have slightly better integer performance, and they'll be near identical in floating point performance.
The PPGA Celeron likely won't hit beyond 562MHz... the C3 is usually a pretty decent overclocker you can likely get it to 800MHz or better.

Overclocked the Celeron might be a tiny bit better, but given that the C3 runs cooler and overclocking is never guaranteed I'd personally ean towards the C3.
 
Do you know if the C3 has the multiplier locked or can I overclocked just by changing the FSB. I believe the motherboard only has settings for 100mhz and 133mhz, nothing in between so I'm not sure if the C3 can reach the 133mhz FSB. The motherboard is one of those all-in-one types with onboard video, sound, etc. and doesn't have a AGP slot, only PCI.
 


<< Do you know if the C3 has the multiplier locked or can I overclocked just by changing the FSB. I believe the motherboard only has settings for 100mhz and 133mhz, nothing in between so I'm not sure if the C3 can reach the 133mhz FSB. The motherboard is one of those all-in-one types with onboard video, sound, etc. and doesn't have a AGP slot, only PCI. >>



The Cyrix CPU I used to have was multiplier-locked. It was an MIII? 700MHz and it benchmarked equal to a Pentium I 166MHz! Following that trend I assume that the C3 is utter crap too...
 


<< << My brother in law got this computer with this processor and he wanted to know if he could play some games on it. >>



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LIES! Of course you can play games! Solitaire and Minesweeper will both run fine, even both at the same time!
 
Reminds me of my old computer that I named Forrest after Forrest Gump since it was a little..... slow. It had a nice 150mhz Cyrix processor and it was not the best thing on earth. From that day, my father hasn't bought a computer for me 😛 but got himself a great looking IBM with a P4 1.4 and a TNT2 m64 :disgust:
Basically, you can play games, but forget the new ones.
 
We got a VIA demo board and a C3 processor at work. We did some benchmarks, and it was 25% faster than a i233MMX chip.

So basically, it sucks.
 
The new ones desiginated with the Ezra T-Core already have a 133 fsb and can run fanless because they are .13. They are not very good for games. I've run Q3 Arena with a Savage4 onboard vid. Its not very inspiring but it'll do it at the lowest detail.

You could build a small server that consumes about 50W average with a C3 933.

 
Yes, you'll be able to play some games just fine on that. Heck, I played 3d games on my PII 300 with a 16MB TNT card. 800x600 might be the highest res though to get good framerates at.
If he's got a Cyrix C3, well, it's not a performance machine. From what I've gathered, the C3's big selling point is how cool it runs - you can remove the heatsink, and it doesn't fry itself, plus it just keeps running like normal.
 
the c3's fpu is better than the celeron per clock, but its only clocked at half the speed of the chip. you can probably still play quake3 ish games, but if your brother wants to run games, he might as well ,just buy a p3 chip. his motherboard should be able to take it, since the c3 uses the same pinout as the coppermine
 


<< the c3's fpu is better than the celeron per clock, but its only clocked at half the speed of the chip. you can probably still play quake3 ish games, but if your brother wants to run games, he might as well ,just buy a p3 chip. his motherboard should be able to take it, since the c3 uses the same pinout as the coppermine >>



Not necessarily..... the Celerons up to the 533s were PPGA, the P3s and newer Celerons are FCPGA. The Cyrix works with both PPGA and FCPGA motherboards so it doesn't matter if it supports FCPGA or not. However if the motherboard does not support FCPGA a P3 would not work.
 
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