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evolvedbullet

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Hey, I get what you guys are saying but unfortunately I don't really enjoy anything. I have learned alot over the past few weeks on apituide and I think it is safe to say that the "gifted" ones I like or love take life easy; I can't follow a path like theres because I am in special ed. (IEP) but I choose not to use it or it's advantages. I feel really stupid that I have a neurological problem with learning and the work never ends. I try my best but I found out that if I force myself to do something long enough, I could get in the habit of it meaning I can deal with it. I suppose we can apply that to a job and there you go, any job is alright with me so that is why I would like to have a high paying job.

My family is semi-smart and the only one who I know will be a millionaire will be my step-cousin, who is part of my NUCLEAR FAMILY.

Your petition to join the upper & upper-middle classes has been rejected on the grounds that you have no money & no friends.

Please take your rightful place in the lower-middle class like all the other average joes.


You are one of those folks who believe that you need somethings to succeed. I learned that being good at something doesn't require friends or money. All you need is commitment and dedication. If you lack those, you will join the average person. I will not be an average person within my future or at least I'll try. You make me think pestimitic thoughts :(.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Hey, I get what you guys are saying but unfortunately I don't really enjoy anything. I have learned alot over the past few weeks on apituide and I think it is safe to say that the "gifted" ones I like or love take life easy; I can't follow a path like theres because I am in special ed. (IEP) but I choose not to use it or it's advantages. I feel really stupid that I have a neurological problem with learning and the work never ends. I try my best but I found out that if I force myself to do something long enough, I could get in the habit of it meaning I can deal with it. I suppose we can apply that to a job and there you go, any job is alright with me so that is why I would like to have a high paying job.

My family is semi-smart and the only one who I know will be a millionaire will be my step-cousin, who is part of my NUCLEAR FAMILY.

Your petition to join the upper & upper-middle classes has been rejected on the grounds that you have no money & no friends.

Please take your rightful place in the lower-middle class like all the other average joes.


You are one of those folks who believe that you need somethings to succeed. I learned that being good at something doesn't require friends or money. All you need is commitment and dedication. If you lack those, you will join the average person. I will not be an average person within my future or at least I'll try. You make me think pestimitic thoughts :(.


first of all: what's "pestimitic?"

you said earlier that your idea of success means having a nice house, and being the wealthiest person in your family....which is the exact opposite of your response here..
You make no sense....
 

Kirby

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You need to make enough to live comfortably and put your kids through school. Money isn't everything. Look at PAB, he has "rolex" and everybody hates him.
 

evolvedbullet

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: hx009
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
You see, I realized that no one really likes me so I became independent. I have been like that for a year now and it has worked like a charm.

Ok then.


right...so by independant and still in high school...I assume you at least aren't living with your parents, or do you define independant different from everyone else in the world?

What I mean by independant is being alone; I still live with my parents since I'm only a kid. I really would hate it if I did live in a house. It has it's pros and cons :D. When I say independant, I mean no one helps me. I only allow access to the people who are seriously eager to help me with my future such as teachers and advice from nerdy girls. Everyone has friends but my "friends" fit the video gaming attitude when I clearly don't want to like video games. I prefer not talking about video games but since there a very big distraction and there is nothing to talk about at the launch table, I run a motor mouth lol. My definition of a true friend is someone who wants to be my friend; meaning they call me and talk or come over at random times (my brother's friends do that to me but they just give me a hug and run for it).

Since America is filled with assholes and violent people, I don't see me having any other these "true friends". That is the reason why I want to move to Europe and maybe start a business (That's a big maybe). I would like to retire there but I am thinking way to far in the future. I said independence because I hate how my mother intrudes in my business when she deals with other things such as laundry or something like that. I told her I would do everything myself, that includes food to little responsibilities but apparently that is not good enough for that women. GRR
 

EMPshockwave82

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First off, you need to get your head out of the clouds. You want a job that pays over 100k per year right out of the university????


The median family income in the United States was 65,093 in 2003. (http://www.census.gov/hhes/income/4person.html)


FYI, that means that the mother and father worked and they TOTALED to be 65k........ Chances of getting a 100K+ / year job strait out of the university is below 0.01% would be my guess.
 

evolvedbullet

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Hey, I get what you guys are saying but unfortunately I don't really enjoy anything. I have learned alot over the past few weeks on apituide and I think it is safe to say that the "gifted" ones I like or love take life easy; I can't follow a path like theres because I am in special ed. (IEP) but I choose not to use it or it's advantages. I feel really stupid that I have a neurological problem with learning and the work never ends. I try my best but I found out that if I force myself to do something long enough, I could get in the habit of it meaning I can deal with it. I suppose we can apply that to a job and there you go, any job is alright with me so that is why I would like to have a high paying job.

My family is semi-smart and the only one who I know will be a millionaire will be my step-cousin, who is part of my NUCLEAR FAMILY.

Your petition to join the upper & upper-middle classes has been rejected on the grounds that you have no money & no friends.

Please take your rightful place in the lower-middle class like all the other average joes.


You are one of those folks who believe that you need somethings to succeed. I learned that being good at something doesn't require friends or money. All you need is commitment and dedication. If you lack those, you will join the average person. I will not be an average person within my future or at least I'll try. You make me think pestimitic thoughts :(.


first of all: what's "pestimitic?"

you said earlier that your idea of success means having a nice house, and being the wealthiest person in your family....which is the exact opposite of your response here..
You make no sense....

I am very sorry, it is a part of my disability I think. I couldn't talk normal for years and I also thought the same way. Pessimistic is what I meant to say, my apologizes. My idea of success is not getting a nice house, it is getting a good job which will kind of let me have a good life although incomplete.
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My best friend is 27, works for Goldman Sachs as an Analyst, and makes cira. $400K a year.

Finance FT$

Things like this make me happy I'm a finance major. Luckily I love my business classes, even spending 12 hours last Thursday staring at spreadsheets trying to find trends in 60000 rows of data was fun for me ;)

Don't worry so much about what you want to do now. Go into college having an idea of what you enjoy doing and try to take classes to see if you really like your choice. You'll take plenty of General Ed. classes, and who knows, you may find out you love psychology or something. It's no big deal to change your major, I know people that have changed their major 3-4 times freshman year. Just gon't go into college with a set salary in mind and try to find majors that will earn you that much, that's the complete wrong way of going about it.

BTW, no job is going to get you $100k right out of college.
 

evolvedbullet

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Originally posted by: nkgreen
You need to make enough to live comfortably and put your kids through school. Money isn't everything. Look at PAB, he has "rolex" and everybody hates him.

Here is one of the things I have debates about with people I know. I keep getting told that the purpose of life is to make more life and get through school with excellent grades. I am also against the idea of getting a job, getting a wife, getting little disasters, and then die. I want to pursue my own dreams; I have to be selfish if I am going to survive in this world because I don't like having a dependency on others. Depending on others isn't always 100% safe. I will get a kid when my life is going as planned, although many have said before me that life is a rough road with alot of detours so quick thinking will be the main part of the plan.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Hey, I get what you guys are saying but unfortunately I don't really enjoy anything. I have learned alot over the past few weeks on apituide and I think it is safe to say that the "gifted" ones I like or love take life easy; I can't follow a path like theres because I am in special ed. (IEP) but I choose not to use it or it's advantages. I feel really stupid that I have a neurological problem with learning and the work never ends. I try my best but I found out that if I force myself to do something long enough, I could get in the habit of it meaning I can deal with it. I suppose we can apply that to a job and there you go, any job is alright with me so that is why I would like to have a high paying job.

My family is semi-smart and the only one who I know will be a millionaire will be my step-cousin, who is part of my NUCLEAR FAMILY.

Your petition to join the upper & upper-middle classes has been rejected on the grounds that you have no money & no friends.

Please take your rightful place in the lower-middle class like all the other average joes.


You are one of those folks who believe that you need somethings to succeed. I learned that being good at something doesn't require friends or money. All you need is commitment and dedication. If you lack those, you will join the average person. I will not be an average person within my future or at least I'll try. You make me think pestimitic thoughts :(.




the only people who make it rich today are Entrepreneurs.
People with starting cash and/or capital. they invest in stock & real estate. They have luck, opportunity, financial instincts, and a social network. they eventually become CEO's & CIO's. Actual job work is merely a distraction from their true money making potential.

If you're not born into the opportunity, with all the right things, you cant achieve it just by working your ass off. 4.0's in school doesnt guarantee it. Working 20 hours a day doesnt do it either. You might make supervisor, or middle manager of some company... but you'll still be an average joe at an average company with an average salary of 80k.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: UNESC0
don't do it for the money... toys aren't worth you spending your life doing something you hate


by all means, make enough to be comfortable -- just don't shoehorn yourself into a profession just because it's high-paying

agreed!!! seriously. don't do something you won't enjoy.

OP, since you are in HS, I would say choose a major in college that is challenging that you would do well in (as in GPA-wise). In other words choose a profession that is respected, but make dang sure you can do well (get the grades). Because if you ever decide in college or beyond that you want to do something like Law School, good grades and a challenging degree will help in that process.

College is more about figuring out who you are and challenging yourself than really setting the groundwork for what you want to be for the rest of your life. The reason I say that is that most people change careers on average every 5-6 years now. I am talking 180 degree changes in work fields. So as long as you do something that will give you the maximum amount of opportunity, it doesn't matter what you choose in college. So choose something that is respected as a degree and get the best dang grades you can. If I had known that when I was in school, I would not have wasted my time so much in college. My GPA is shot to h311 and now I am reaping the problems that go with that while I am pursuing post grad stuff. Mind you, I could have easily gotten all A's if I put a minimum amount of effort, but I was too lazy and unfocused at the time.

Of course GPA doesn't matter if you are just looking at college as a way of getting a good jpb, and not looking to go back to school later. I mean really if that is the case, you don't even need college to start making money although college is intrinsically valuable by itself.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: UNESC0
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Please don't tell me to live the average life. I don't like to live off standards you know.

wtf is "average"?

possessions? please, sorry to come off harsh but you'll quickly learn once you finish school that having a big house or fancy car doesn't make you "above average" when it comes to quality of life if you're miserable 9+ hours of the day working at a career you hate.

BINGO!

OP, once you get out into the real world, you will realize this too.

I have plenty of people I know that make a bunch of money, and buy a lot of cool toys and gadgets, but they are not any happier or any better than anyone else I know. Being above average is a state of mind. It is about willing yourself to be better than you are currently (better at what you do and better at who you are). You do this, and many people will think you are above average, when in reality you are just the same as everyone else except for how you view the world and yourself.

(Sounds hokey, I know, but it has merit)

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Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Hey, I get what you guys are saying but unfortunately I don't really enjoy anything. I have learned alot over the past few weeks on apituide and I think it is safe to say that the "gifted" ones I like or love take life easy; I can't follow a path like theres because I am in special ed. (IEP) but I choose not to use it or it's advantages. I feel really stupid that I have a neurological problem with learning and the work never ends. I try my best but I found out that if I force myself to do something long enough, I could get in the habit of it meaning I can deal with it. I suppose we can apply that to a job and there you go, any job is alright with me so that is why I would like to have a high paying job.

My family is semi-smart and the only one who I know will be a millionaire will be my step-cousin, who is part of my NUCLEAR FAMILY.

From what you posted, no you don't. Based on your post, your value system is still based on how much you make. That is a pretty @@#$@ed Up system if you ask me.
 

CptObvious

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I believe if you're the ambitious and independent type, you're going to feel just as trapped being a wage slave attorney in a law firm as a wage slave draftsman in an architecture firm. Unless you're content with being an employee for the rest of your life, you need to focus on developing a business sense, looking for potential markets, as well as going to school and getting a job to get work experience, etc. so that you can eventually be your own boss (the ultimate goal).
 

evolvedbullet

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
Hey, I get what you guys are saying but unfortunately I don't really enjoy anything. I have learned alot over the past few weeks on apituide and I think it is safe to say that the "gifted" ones I like or love take life easy; I can't follow a path like theres because I am in special ed. (IEP) but I choose not to use it or it's advantages. I feel really stupid that I have a neurological problem with learning and the work never ends. I try my best but I found out that if I force myself to do something long enough, I could get in the habit of it meaning I can deal with it. I suppose we can apply that to a job and there you go, any job is alright with me so that is why I would like to have a high paying job.

My family is semi-smart and the only one who I know will be a millionaire will be my step-cousin, who is part of my NUCLEAR FAMILY.

Your petition to join the upper & upper-middle classes has been rejected on the grounds that you have no money & no friends.

Please take your rightful place in the lower-middle class like all the other average joes.


You are one of those folks who believe that you need somethings to succeed. I learned that being good at something doesn't require friends or money. All you need is commitment and dedication. If you lack those, you will join the average person. I will not be an average person within my future or at least I'll try. You make me think pestimitic thoughts :(.




the only people who make it rich today are Entrepreneurs.
People with starting cash and/or capital. they invest in stock & real estate. They have luck, opportunity, financial instincts, and a social network. they eventually become CEO's & CIO's. Actual job work is merely a distraction from their true money making potential.

If you're not born into the opportunity, with all the right things, you cant achieve it just by working your ass off. 4.0's in school doesnt guarantee it. Working 20 hours a day doesnt do it either. You might make supervisor, or middle manager of some company... but you'll still be an average joe at an average company with an average salary of 80k.

I never thought of it that way. Good point although you could try getting rich by using the stock market but it could stab you back if you have no idea whats up.
 

AtlantaBob

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Originally posted by: UNESC0
don't do it for the money... toys aren't worth you spending your life doing something you hate


by all means, make enough to be comfortable -- just don't shoehorn yourself into a profession just because it's high-paying

That is such good advice.... make sure that you like it first. Might not be a bad idea to try and get a job with either a lawyer or an architect, etc. at least over the summer. True, you probably won't get to do much interesting work, but if you pay attention, you'll see what they spend their time doing.
 

evolvedbullet

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You see, I would really like to have alot of money :). I know everyone would like to have alot of money but really I would use a million a day if I could. My dream is to build the greatest supercomputer and establish a lan center that would actually LIVE! (Ever lan center I ever been to has closed for some reason, I want this one to last :) ). I shared a dream with you.
 
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In time, any job no matter how exciting will become a bore.

Just go after the money ... it's all that really matters. Then retire early and enjoy life.

That's my plan.
 

illusion88

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
In time, any job no matter how exciting will become a bore.

Just go after the money ... it's all that really matters. Then retire early and enjoy life.

That's my plan.

Your alias fits your post perfectly :D

Seriously though...
Do what you love, and the money will follow

There has to be something that makes you happy. You really enjoy architectural drawings? Find a job doing that. To hell if it doesn't pay well. You can honestly say you spent a whole day doing what you love and got paid for it. Eventually you will get really good at it, and people will pay you more. If you get really really good at it you can make tons of money doing it. And at the end of the day you will still be doing what you love (and be sitting on a huge paycheck).

I love to ski. So what did I do? I got a job skiing! I teach kids to ski all day. Everyday I get to strap into my boots, put on my skis and spend a whole day on the hill. On top of that, everyday I catch last tram and get a full hour of skiing in. Granted, I make pennys right now.

I'm not worried about it, because I have one of the best jobs in the world. And when I become a better teacher, get my PSIA (Professional ski instructor of America) certs I will be making as much as some of my buddies with college degrees will be making. And I dont have to sit inside to do it either. I don't have to deal with huge projects and big deadlines. I spend my days outside doing what I love, and I get paid for it.

Even if my clients suck I still had a good day. How many people go to work and not feel like they are "at work"? Thats the kind of job that you want. You want to be able to come home smiling every day because you did something that you love and had fun. Fvck the rest.
 

nweaver

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I work in IT/QA, don't make 100K, and love my job. More then my job, I love my family though. Find an extraordinary hobby, rather then an expensive one. You should see the city slickers faces when I tell them I ride a Mustang from the open range on the weekends :D
 

Q

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If you are good at math, do engineering, it's broad enough to let you into a lot of fields.

As for me, math isn't my greatest, so I plan on doing business or something next year
 

nweaver

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Originally posted by: evolvedbullet
I am also against the idea of getting a job, getting a wife, getting little disasters, and then die.

Not to be cheesy, but Life IS those little disasters, and getting through them....You are one seriously screwed up person if you think that being alone (no wife/kids) and rich is going to make you happy.