What industries should private companies be removed from?

[rudder]

Why do prop up greedy companies who steal from everyday people? There is no reason the government shouldn't be providing all of these services and more.

Be a smart consumer. Companies charge what people willingly pay.

Gas/Oil: I can buy a fuel efficient car.

Housing: I can buy my own land and build my house, or contract a cheaper builder

Banking Use a credit union. Imagine the government having access to my savings and checking account anyway.

Grocery: Shop around/grown my own veggies.... for $1.50 though I am just going to the store and picking up a cantaloupe.

Water, Natural Gas, Electricity: These are psuedo nationalized now, but I get cheap electricity now. Which would be cheaper if it did not come from the incompetent TVA.

Healthcare: It takes time and dedication to be a doctor... no one will want to spend 10 years in med school and be forced to work for the government. Excercise and eat right so you do not need to spend as much on healthcare.

Car/Home Insurance: How do they rip me off? I can buy minimum coverage/high decuctible coverage cheap... its a risk that would be borne by me.

Vehicle Production/Sale: Trabat enough said.

Drug and Medical Equipment Production: Look at R&D costs for new drugs.

Mineral production: Government makes money by selling mineral/land rights.. no need to take on tens of thousands on new Federal employees.

Wood production: Government makes money by selling mineral/land rights.. no need to take on tens of thousands on new Federal employees.

Raw metals production: Government makes money by selling mineral/land rights.. no need to take on tens of thousands on new Federal employees.

Internet, Cable, TV, Radio, and Telephone: Do you want the government to also produce content?

 

[tydas]

Almost every industry mentioned already gets massive subisidies anyway, either in the form of tax credit, indirect goverment support, governement as the purchaser, etc.

why is this idea so crackpot? these companies seem to take none of the risk but get all of the reward...(as in gov't bailouts)

also, its not like this country doesn't have a history nationalization anyway...

 

[PokerGuy]

Wow, just when I thought the level of stupidity could not get higher, DCal430 comes along and sets a new bar. Good job, sir!

 

[Atreus21]

Can someone give me one good reason we should prefer privatization.

1. 99% of private companies are run by corrupt individuals.

I defy you to prove this assertion.

Even if 50% of private companies were run by corrupt individuals, you have just as much means by which to put them out of business as you do elected officials. Don't buy from them, and convince your fellow man not to either.

2. 99% of private companies care more about $$$ than people.

99% of everyone cares more about money than people, short of those in their own family. On small scales, communism works and capitalism fails miserably, such as a family, in which the leaders have a biological compulsion to provide for and protect their spouse and offspring. This simply does not exist in any capacity on a large scale. That's why communism fails as government policy. Beyond our family, we are self-interested. Might as well get used to it, because that is simply a fact.

Remember if a CEO could increase his profits by a million bucks at the cost of your life he would.

Do you realize that whole universities have computers because they were given them by Bill Gates' charity? Do you think that didn't cut into his bottom line?

 

[Macamus Prime]

It's the simple way America operates: if you are good/great at something, you can be bad towards others.

Pry the social services from the people's hands. Make them pay more for it and get less in return. If you can accomplish that (and they have), you reap in all the rewards.

 

[Matt1970]

This thread is funny. The government sure is doing a fine job with what little they have done with oil. All the places we should be drilling are off limits and the places that are being drilled take years or red tape to make happen. The last time the Gov really stuck their nose in the oil industry we had gas shortages and lines around the block just to fill up. Most everything else the government has it's hand in costs twice as much as it should and should have been bankrupt years ago.

 

[a777pilot]

I am an American, I shouldn't have to leave my country to find a better place. I should strive to make the U.S better.

With thinking like yours this place will only continue to descend deeper into third world status.

Name for us one country that is successful and free that controls the means of production and services. One will do.

 

[tydas]

With thinking like yours this place will only continue to descend deeper into third world status.

Name for us one country that is successful and free that controls the means of production and services. One will do.

LOL, the country that keeps the USA afloat...CHINA..and hopeflly your response defines 'FREE'

 

[Exterous]

LOL, the country that keeps the USA afloat...CHINA..and hopeflly your response defines 'FREE'

I was unaware that there was some definition of free that could include China

:hmm: Maybe free of freedoms

 

[Genx87]

LOL, the country that keeps the USA afloat...CHINA..and hopeflly your response defines 'FREE'

Right, China is a bubble waiting to burst.

 

[Genx87]

What replaces profit in the private sector will be more than made up with inefficiency in the public sector.

 

[Venix]

Competing with Anarchist420 for the stupidest P&N poster award?

He already won the award years ago with his previous account. Anarchist420 is an amateur compared to DVK916 and his chin.

 

[Acanthus]

As opposed to your corporate ass kissing, crackpot utopian nanny state liberals? Why are you so afraid of people succeeding? Does it make you realize the utter failure that you are?

There is nothing wrong with people succeeding as long as it is in an ethical manner.

 

[werepossum]

Be a smart consumer. Companies charge what people willingly pay.

Gas/Oil: I can buy a fuel efficient car.

Housing: I can buy my own land and build my house, or contract a cheaper builder

Banking Use a credit union. Imagine the government having access to my savings and checking account anyway.

Grocery: Shop around/grown my own veggies.... for $1.50 though I am just going to the store and picking up a cantaloupe.

Water, Natural Gas, Electricity: These are psuedo nationalized now, but I get cheap electricity now. Which would be cheaper if it did not come from the incompetent TVA.

Healthcare: It takes time and dedication to be a doctor... no one will want to spend 10 years in med school and be forced to work for the government. Excercise and eat right so you do not need to spend as much on healthcare.

Car/Home Insurance: How do they rip me off? I can buy minimum coverage/high decuctible coverage cheap... its a risk that would be borne by me.

Vehicle Production/Sale: Trabat enough said.

Drug and Medical Equipment Production: Look at R&D costs for new drugs.

Mineral production: Government makes money by selling mineral/land rights.. no need to take on tens of thousands on new Federal employees.

Wood production: Government makes money by selling mineral/land rights.. no need to take on tens of thousands on new Federal employees.

Raw metals production: Government makes money by selling mineral/land rights.. no need to take on tens of thousands on new Federal employees.

Internet, Cable, TV, Radio, and Telephone: Do you want the government to also produce content?

Very well said. However, people like the OP (having far out-paced Anarchist who has demonstrated a rational if often warped recognition of history and reality) cannot or will not compete in their own interests. They merely demand that others change the world to suit their wants and assume that anyone more intelligent and successful than themselves (read: everyone) became so by being corrupt and evil.

Also, China is neither free nor even prosperous for many of its citizens. To the extent it has risen above its North Korean standard of prosperity, it has done so by the very aggressive application of capitalism, albeit often government-directed capitalism. The rise of non-government owned businesses directly correlates with China's increased productivity and wealth, and today's China seems to be increasingly restricting its government-owned businesses to defense.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Utopia is great...............as long as someone else is making sacrifices/paying for goods/services

 

[CPA]

Why don't you just go ahead and move to China?

I was going to say Venezuela.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Natural monopolies, services critical to health, and the movement of money for money's sake should be either nationalized or heavily regulated. I like careful regulation better than nationalizing though.

 

[CPA]

No shit sherlock. What you seem to be so wrapped up in your voodoo ideas to get is the simple fact that at least a politician is accountable if they are shown to be corrupt. Try letting your grievances be known to a CEO. You will be escorted out by security. When you conservatives have a better answer to the problem then some free market nonsense then feel free to contribute.

Your 99% exaggeration of corruption just shows how patheticlly idealogically brainwashed you are to make such asinine statements so sweeping.

Another little mouse squeaking at the top your lungs in support of the fat cats.

Oh really Steeple? Is Chavez accountable? You know him, he's your Jesus.

 

[CPA]

Highly motivated people should be rewarded. This does not mean they should be allowed to use this to exploit society.

You think in such silly narrow terms like a child.

Your problem is you think any reward is explotation.

 

[CPA]

There used to be Government oversight (Regulation) so these Industries couldn't go willy nilly like they have done.

Totally free has proven not to work and will be the downfall of the country as we are witnessing.

Dave, I know and you know that you're a crackpot, but you don't really believe what you just posted and, more importantly, agree with what DCal posted, do you? C'mon, be serious.

 

[Mursilis]

The following list are industries in which I feel we need to abolish private companies from and what should be done about them.

Gas/Oil: Nationalized
Housing: State level municipalized
Banking: Combination of single nationalized bank and state level municipalized Banks.
Grocery: State level municipalized.
Water, Natural Gas, Electricity: Local level municipalized.
Healthcare: State level municipalized
Car/Home Insurance: Nationalized
Vehicle Production/Sale: Nationalized
Drug and Medical Equipment Production: Nationalized
Mineral production: Nationalized
Wood production: Nationalized
Raw metals production: Nationalized
Internet, Cable, TV, Radio, and Telephone: Local level municpalized.


There is no reason to have any private companies meddling in these industries.

I think it was Dave Barry who said few problems are so bad that gov't can't make them worse.

Life is different outside your parents' basement.

 

[arrfep]

How do you feel about the Vinegar industry?

 

[piasabird]

So are you a Socialist or a communist or what? Innovation and inventions come from free enterprise and competition. There are some possible alternatives like a hybrid system that requires some nationalization to insure we can make military vehicles. How we handle this now is through government contracts. It is my opinion that government has trouble nationalize the production of a paper bag! They are not smart enough and will just produce more waste and any product the government makes will cost more.

Why are you under the misconception that the government can make things cheaper? Keep in mind that the government could also set the wages for any such enterprise and set up pensions. You planning on paying that?

 

[Steeplerot]

The government should be so constituted to protect the majority from the minority of the opulent. - James Madison

Really ironic these Utopian free market folks are calling anyone extremist or commies.

What is extremist is this reverse class warfare nonsense.


Give the rich money hoping they will smile upon america and make jobs (blowjobs from hookers and mountains of cocaine in reality) allthewhile the working class should have everything cut and their standard of livings go to shit to keep them from being lazy and keep their noses to the grindstone. Its downright childish thinking. Pull the Koch from your mouth extremist righties.

 

[Red Dawn]

The following list are industries in which I feel we need to abolish private companies from and what should be done about them.

Gas/Oil: Nationalized
Housing: State level municipalized
Banking: Combination of single nationalized bank and state level municipalized Banks.
Grocery: State level municipalized.
Water, Natural Gas, Electricity: Local level municipalized.
Healthcare: State level municipalized
Car/Home Insurance: Nationalized
Vehicle Production/Sale: Nationalized
Drug and Medical Equipment Production: Nationalized
Mineral production: Nationalized
Wood production: Nationalized
Raw metals production: Nationalized
Internet, Cable, TV, Radio, and Telephone: Local level municpalized.


There is no reason to have any private companies meddling in these industries.

Yeah.. that's not going to happen, OK?