What improvements will the 1.3GHz thunderbird? Is it going to have Palomino core?

[mercutio13]

I am just wondering what improvement will the 1.3ghz (New clock speed) Thunderbird? I believe the 1.3ghz thunderbird will be available late in March. Is it going to have Palomino core?

 

[Adul]

dont think so.

 

[Bartman39]

I think the Palomino core`s will start at 1.5Ghz (not sure maybe 1.4Ghz) I read it somewhere???

 

[Syborg1211]

I am pretty sure the 1.3ghz wont have the Palomino core...

 

[madthumbs]

I thought it was gonna be 1.33GHz DDR 266FSB.

 

[Leo V]

Isn't it a newer "C" core nonetheless? I thought I heard it "only" uses 1.7vcore instead of 1.75 by default, and goes to 90C instead of 95C. (Which suggests it runs slightly cooler.) Does anybody know?

 

[Insane3D]

Leo, my 1.2ghz runs at 1.35ghz (9X150) at only 1.7v...

 

[Leo V]

"1.35ghz (9X150)" :Q:Q:Q

I'm running my retail 1.1GHz underclocked at "only" 1.066GHz @1.575V (133x8), lower voltage occasionally produced errors. You must have one helluva fast machine though!

 

[Insane3D]

That's a nice "underclock" you have there. I prefer the lower voltage at the sacrifice of some mhz myself..nice job. You really won't notice much of a speed difference at that "underclock", but you must run much cooler with that lower voltage. I actually ran 1.65v for awhile, but some games would give errors occasionally. Everyone keeps telling me these Abit boards are junk, but every one I have had so far works like a charm..

 

[Leo V]

At default 1.1GHz clock, my Tbird was able to run at 1.625V, so the power reduction isn't that big:

1.100GHz @default= 59.2 watts
1.100GHz @1.625V = 50.8 watts
1.066GHz @1.575V = 46.2 watts

Experimentation revealed that I'd have to go down to ~800MHz, before I could run fanless. So instead, I picked the highest non-overclocked CPU speed, at the lowest 100% error-free voltage. My 2500RPM quiet Adda fan can easily handle the heat.

 

[Insane3D]

Well, my Hedgehog/Delta combo works awesome...but it's sure not quiet. I am used to it..it kind of blends in with the noise of the other 7 fans in my case..

 

[Leo V]

Only 2 fans in my system (because both are absolutely necessary

- Adda 16dB fan (60x60x25mm 2500RPM) attached to Kanie Hedgehog copper CPU heatsink
- Adda sensor-regulated PSU fan on 300W QuietPC.com power supply

My IBM 75GXP hard drive is running in "quiet mode", inside a QuietPC.com SilentDrive enclosure. The seeks are completely inaudible, and spinning noise is minimal.

And yet, I still think my system is just too loud! Even though it's quieter than most any computer I've recently encountered. It can never be too quiet Sorry for the delusional, maniacal rant!

 

[Insane3D]

Leo, that is a nice goal you are going for there..the quiet PC. Not too many people go that route, it's nice to see. I picked up one of those Acryllic cases and I love it, great airflow. I have a different strategy when it comes to a loud PC...I use my 8.2 Promedia setup to drown it out..hehe.

 

[Dulanic]

Im still wondering why Leo went with a Hedgehog, copper transfers heat better, but it doesnt release heat as fast. So by mixing copper and a small fan your not getting rid of alot of heat, I would think aluminum would work much better with a slow speed fan.

 

[Leo V]

"I use my 8.2 Promedia setup to drown it out..hehe"

Good lord!! Two sets of 4.1 PM's, 800 watts of RMS audio power??? :Q

Dulanic, a very interesting point. EDIT: Please visit a new thread I started about the heatsink.

 

[Insane3D]

Dulanic does have a good point there. The copper HSF doesn't perform nearly as well when it's paired with a YS Tech as opposed to the Delta..at that voltage though it shouldn't be a big deal..

 

[DaddyG]

Dulanic, I'm pretty sure that the 'copper doesn't release heat' theory has been proven not to be true. I know there was an extensive article debunking the theory, maybe it was at overclockers.com.