What if you could get T1 in your home for DSL price

apac · Jul 31, 2003

Someone I know posted this on a different forum and I offered to repost it here. That said, I don't know any specifics, just passing the word.

My pops has bought a patent on a new wireless T1 (not satelite), that they can control the bandwidth you get. Like you can pay for DSL equivalent up to T1. Also, you can have as many comps on the same signal as you want without affecting your speed.

There are no wires.....no weather impairments, or any concievable problem you can think of. I am trying to make him get what type of goldmine he is sitting on. So what I am asking is this:

Would you drop your current ISP for something like this? It is the same price if not lower, but hella faster.

AgaBoogaBoo · Jul 31, 2003

Yeah, but it also has to be reliable and stable.

UlricT · Jul 31, 2003

wireless? What is the range on this thing? Any actual hardware running... or is it still theoretical?

JackBurton · Jul 31, 2003

Do I get to us my freakin' bandwidth the way I choose? I don't want to hear bitching about a server I have online!

XMan · Jul 31, 2003

If it works as you described, I'd pay more than what I'm paying now for DSL ($40).

BD231 · Jul 31, 2003

Sounds sweet, especially if you had the freedom to dl/ul what you please. Frikin Comcast Nazis, "Hey yeah we noticed you downloaded a megabyte over what you did last month, we're gonna have to ask you to refrain from using your account for anything other than e-mail"

HappyCracker · Jul 31, 2003

If it's as nice as you say it is. I have no big beef with the ISP we have now. I download heavily every now and again and our service only died once for 5 minutes in the past 8 months that I know of

orion7144 · Jul 31, 2003

I'd pay extra. I have a quote in front of me for $485 w/ free install and equipment for a dedicated T1 and phone service (including a few 800 #'s)a month. A little steep for me but if I were to start a buisness it would be the was to go.

gf4200isdabest · Jul 31, 2003

How old is this patent? You could get wireless OC48 like 6 years ago. I don't think you're going to get much interest on this...if it was feasible it would have been done during the tech boom...trying to sell old technology during a downturn is a bad idea...

MrDigital · Jul 31, 2003

This sounds like something along the lines of Motorola's Canopy system, you can do 10Mbit+ and all kinds of variations, the ISP or whatever can control accounts individually. Bandwidth is also both ways, no difference between download/upload speeds. It has a "non-supported" range of up to 35 miles if you know what you're doing but they apparently only say a few miles. You still have to have a backbone though if you're using it for Internet, the bandwidth doesn't magically appear out of thin air, pun intended.

Also, that's 10Mbit (or whatever, I guess their 20mbits are out now) per access point so if you have 10 clients that use THAT access point then you gotta divide it up somehow.

Anyhow, my old boss is actually doing this stuff so I get to hear about how it works and such quite a bit. Most people are using it to connect their homes and businesses instead of using VPN technology, hella faster and no cost at all besides the hardware to connect your locations.

It's bigest issue is it more or less still requires line of sight.

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BurnItDwn · Jul 31, 2003

I would definatly pay the same money for more bandwidth. I currently pay about $50 a month for 2mbit/256kbit. I would love more upstream to run a decent webpage. (ie 1.54mbit/1.54mbit)

thorin · Jul 31, 2003

T1 = 1.54Mbit right?

If so I wouldn't really care, I already have a 1.5Mbit connection with DSL (1.5mbit/384 or 512Kbit) for $40 a month. [And I don't really care about upstream traffic since I don't run an FTP or offer many Kazaa files]

Thorin

merlocka · Jul 31, 2003

There are no wires.....no weather impairments, or any concievable problem you can think of.

Then it does not exist.

apac · Jul 31, 2003

As I said, I don't know specifics. From the way it's written I assume that his father just recently bought a patent for the technology, and he's trying to convince his father about it's potential in the ISP business world.

About the wireless OC48, how expensive was that 6 years ago? I can almost guarantee that it could only be bought/used by companies with large pocketbooks rather than home consumers.

What I think he's trying to say is that if there was an ISP with relatively inexpensive (cable/dsl price) wireless T1 service, would you switch to it?

bluemax · Jul 31, 2003

For the sake of arguement;
if I could get a 1-2Mbit wireless connection in my home that can be password protected so freeloaders don't come next door and steal bandwidth yet has enough range to cover the three floors of my house so I don't have to install conduits just to string cables from basement to top floor.... all for less than $30US a month - yes, I'd get it.

Electric Amish · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by: merlocka
There are no wires.....no weather impairments, or any concievable problem you can think of.

Then it does not exist.

Yeah, it's wireless so what about latency?

jm0ris0n · Jul 31, 2003

Yes I would.

OverVolt · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by: BD231
Sounds sweet, especially if you had the freedom to dl/ul what you please. Frikin Comcast Nazis, "Hey yeah we noticed you downloaded a megabyte over what you did last month, we're gonna have to ask you to refrain from using your account for anything other than e-mail"

I've downloaded 3.2Gb of Linux .ISO's, and over 1Gig of random files (music), at least 1Gig of mods for BF1942/patches recently and i don't hear any Bîtchen from Comcast, they've been good to me.

And yes i would drop my current ISP for a faster one if the price were about the same. Since i'm guessing the equipment is cheaper for wireless vs lined, but i'm not sure.

EDIT but whats the ping on a wireless signal like that? my cables at 16ms, i think wireless takes a bit longer.

dangereuxjeux · Jul 31, 2003

I want VDSL prices like they're getting in Southeast Asia. Half what I pay for some ridiculous 12Mbit or something along those lines (when at home... school network = golden). I'm sure this isn't exactly right, but it's close. Hopefully by two years from now when I'm out of school and need access at my own place, that'll be available. [Here's more info: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/vdsl.htm ]

Lonyo · Jul 31, 2003

Wireless rules.
And for all you people saying "hey, it wasn't here during the tech boom" wireless is actually something that really is coming on, now.

There's a provider in the UK who offers a wireless service, that was, I believe, uncapped, and I had a friend who said he was getting pretty nice speeds (not 100% sure).
It was more expensive than ADSL, but there's another company who is also thinking of setting up a wireless service, if they get enough users to cover the startup costs of a transmitter.

Wireless is not satelite, there is no real latency issue, as you have a signal being carried to a node, which usually isn't all that far away, then it gets connected to the usual fiber-optic cables I'd guess, so only a short part of the journey is done through the air, unlike sattelite where you have to send the from the website, to the sattelite, then beam it down to the user.

He plays online games on his wireles service. So it does work for low latency connections.

apac · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Wireless rules.
And for all you people saying "hey, it wasn't here during the tech boom" wireless is actually something that really is coming on, now.

There's a provider in the UK who offers a wireless service, that was, I believe, uncapped, and I had a friend who said he was getting pretty nice speeds (not 100% sure).
It was more expensive than ADSL, but there's another company who is also thinking of setting up a wireless service, if they get enough users to cover the startup costs of a transmitter.

Wireless is not satelite, there is no real latency issue, as you have a signal being carried to a node, which usually isn't all that far away, then it gets connected to the usual fiber-optic cables I'd guess, so only a short part of the journey is done through the air, unlike sattelite where you have to send the from the website, to the sattelite, then beam it down to the user.

He plays online games on his wireles service. So it does work for low latency connections.

That sounds exactly like the technology this guy is talking about. Again, for people asking about latency and whatnot, I know no specifics at all.

Regs · Jul 31, 2003

It is faster but I doubt cheaper. It is like a Cable Modem with a 1.5 Mbit/ 128k cap. The more bandwidth you want the higher the cost. How about a Install fee?

Lonyo · Jul 31, 2003

http://www.wessexbroadband.com/
This is a UK service. The price for ADSL in the UK is around £25 for comparison purposes.

Might help give general info on the type of service he is probably talking about.

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