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What if Venezuela invaded Mexico???

JEDIYoda

JEDIYoda

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My bet we would support mexico with all our resources including troops...

So why then do we expect Iran to sit back and let us do as we please in IRAQ??hmmmmm

I was listening to talk radio KGO this evening on the way home and the host absolutely floored me with this question.

Any comments.....
 
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Oh, and according to the P&N experts Iran has no involvement whatsoever in Iraq, period. They are completely innocent and who never supply weapons to insurgents (except Hezbollah).

Edit: Hezbollah, not Hamas.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
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Oh, and according to the P&N experts Iran has no involvement whatsoever in Iraq, period. They are completely innocent and who never supply weapons to insurgents (except Hamas).
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And even if Iran is involved, they make excuses for why Iran is at war against us and why we should allow it. You can have your cake and eat it too.
 
Another stupid analogy thread. If V invaded M we woulodn't wage some chicken-sh|t war by proxy... we'd be in there. Mexico is one of our biggest trading partners and the hub of Corporate US manufacturing. We'd have uniformed boots on the ground in a heartbeat.

Not even a similar situation...

Not to mention that Iran and Iraq weren't friendly at all when Saddam was in charge.
 
Mexico would bitch slap Venezuela's military back to the stone age.

However, I hear Venezuela is buying some new fancy Russian toys so maybe not.

edit: N/M. I thought Mexico had an "ok" military. They have nothing.
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
My bet we would support mexico with all our resources including troops...

So why then do we expect Iran to sit back and let us do as we please in IRAQ??hmmmmm

I was listening to talk radio KGO this evening on the way home and the host absolutely floored me with this question.

Any comments.....
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I was unaware that Iran and Iraq were in a defense alliance, or even friendly to each other in 2003.

That host sounds like an idiot.
 
Originally posted by: Aimsteredit: N/M. I thought Mexico had an "ok" military. They have nothing.
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US air / navy support and a ground army of Mexicans equipped with US weapons and trained by US officers would go a long way. Take it the latter would take some time, but the former could be had overnight.
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: spittledip
Why would Venezuela invade Mexico? they are more likely to invade Trinidad.
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Did you even read the title??
What if means just that.....What if....
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I read the title, but motivation is a key element. It makes no sense.
 
What comparison?? There is none.


To the best of my knowledge, Venezuela and Mexico are on friendly terms while Iran and Iraq have hated each other, at least the Sunni/Shia parts.

Venezuela and Mexico aren't even neighbors so the Iran/Iraq comparison fails on that point as well.

Your post is senseless as you make no assertion on what the comparisons are. Simply a statement that one invasion is the same as the other.
 
Originally posted by: dphantom
What comparison?? There is none.

Your post is senseless as you make no assertion on what the comparisons are. Simply a statement that one invasion is the same as the other.
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Kind of like believing any insurgency is just like another.

For people who pride themselves as "gray" thinkers and nuanced, they exhibit insane levels of simplistic thinking.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
we sometimes forget the obvious

but those 2 nations are major oil producing nations

oil will rise to 20/gallon
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Uh, no. If Venezuela was dumb enough enough to try this the US military would assist Mexico and the invasion would be utterly crushed almost immediately, so the impact on oil markets would be limited.
 
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: dphantom
What comparison?? There is none.

Your post is senseless as you make no assertion on what the comparisons are. Simply a statement that one invasion is the same as the other.
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Kind of like believing any insurgency is just like another.

For people who pride themselves as "gray" thinkers and nuanced, they exhibit insane levels of simplistic thinking.
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Well, your thinking is certainly simplistic.

Who believes one insurgency is like another? You or are you making an accusation with no examples to back it up?

Any one can make assertions without evidence. It those who simply make one that end up being the first 3 letters.
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
My bet we would support mexico with all our resources including troops...

So why then do we expect Iran to sit back and let us do as we please in IRAQ??hmmmmm


Any comments.....
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Putting aside all the creditable comments about why this is an absurd analogy..

Ok, so we help Mexico. What says that we aren't to expect the rath of VZ?

Accordingly, if Iran wants to "help" (which is not what they are doing) Iraq whats to say they shouldn't expect the rath of the US?

Fern
 
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: dphantom
What comparison?? There is none.

Your post is senseless as you make no assertion on what the comparisons are. Simply a statement that one invasion is the same as the other.
Click to expand...

Kind of like believing any insurgency is just like another.

For people who pride themselves as "gray" thinkers and nuanced, they exhibit insane levels of simplistic thinking.
Click to expand...

Well, your thinking is certainly simplistic.

Who believes one insurgency is like another? You or are you making an accusation with no examples to back it up?
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I was agreeing with you that the comparison was dumb, and saying that it was kind of like another dumb topic where people were comparing insurgencies.

Those are the people who pride themselves as "gray" thinkers and nuanced, yet they exhibit insane levels of simplistic thinking by making these across the board comparisons of equity.
 
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: dphantom
What comparison?? There is none.

Your post is senseless as you make no assertion on what the comparisons are. Simply a statement that one invasion is the same as the other.
Click to expand...

Kind of like believing any insurgency is just like another.

For people who pride themselves as "gray" thinkers and nuanced, they exhibit insane levels of simplistic thinking.
Click to expand...

Well, your thinking is certainly simplistic.

Who believes one insurgency is like another? You or are you making an accusation with no examples to back it up?
Click to expand...

I was agreeing with you that the comparison was dumb, and saying that it was kind of like another dumb topic where people were comparing insurgencies.

Those are the people who pride themselves as "gray" thinkers and nuanced, yet they exhibit insane levels of simplistic thinking by making these across the board comparisons of equity.
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My apologies. I misunderstood your comment. And in fact agree with your observations. Whether one is for or against a particular topic, discussion usually degenerates quickly to childish rantings instead of any attempt to build an argument to support one's position.
 
Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: Aimster
we sometimes forget the obvious

but those 2 nations are major oil producing nations

oil will rise to 20/gallon
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Uh, no. If Venezuela was dumb enough enough to try this the US military would assist Mexico and the invasion would be utterly crushed almost immediately, so the impact on oil markets would be limited.
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Nobody is talking about U.S involvement
 
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