what if sony's fixing busts up?

[Anarchist420]

microsoft can always make new firmware and game devs can patch to make sure overcurrent overvolt and over temps arent a problem

that's given:
in the long run the xbox one has better processing flexibility and more idiosyncratic memory setup than the PS4. the PS4's x86 cores are fixed at 1.6 ghz while the Xbox one can reach a lot higher.

and i feel like an idiot defending raw horsepower like clockspeeds and absolute ram amounts when it is features and where the holes (as well as different types) are placed that matter (sexiness matters some in objects but is different than in humans). the ps1's (any model) biggest life long problem was the CD architecture; it was a lot less smooth, less fast, and less reliable than any Panasonic 3DO and Sega Saturn got the CD sub system pretty close to perfect (MK2 was an exception).

then of course the rental stores marked all over the disks for the PcofSht2; Did Blockbuster Video put the obnoxious stickers on the Super NES games hoping it would break them (or nintendo) if they were removed?

 

[purbeast0]

posting in anarchist420 thread

 

[Lil Frier]

Is there a question here? Is there a topic?

 

[mnewsham]

in the long run the xbox one has better processing flexibility and more idiosyncratic memory setup than the PS4. the PS4's x86 cores are fixed at 1.6 ghz while the Xbox one can reach a lot higher.

1.75ghz vs 1.6ghz is a a "lot higher"? lolwut.
The 50% extra shader units and faster memory of the PS4 more than make up for that, not to mention the heavier multimedia centered OS of the xbox uses more CPU time than the PS4 OS.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Who's Mildred? Did she have diabetes?

Who are Harris and KleebOld?

Who are Susan, Eric, Kathy, and Wayne?

You MUST satisfactorily answer those questions before moving on to other topics.

Also, you've got your hardware stuffs backwards.

 

[KentState]

How did the free iPod spammer get to this many posts?

 

[Schfifty Five]

Ban OP please.

 

[manimal]

Lately 80 percent of the new threads are this weirdo and mayne and that other mai72 alt.


Gets tiring....

 

[TeknoBug]

Oh you again.

Did you have a +90 dodge buff equipped? Seems you dodged a ban last time.

PS- your original post has a lot of false points.

 

[mmntech]

Ban OP please.

I guess he hasn't been banned because he's technically not violating any forum rules. A420 is just all kinds of crazy. He's either high (which his name suggests), has some sort of mental issue, or is trolling us hard. Probably a combination of the three.

 

[Blanky]

Imagine if this attention to minutiae could be applied to tasks that actually earn money, op would be wealthy

 

[Fardringle]

i feel like an idiot

Irrelevant portions of the post have been removed.

Imagine if this attention to minutiae could be applied to tasks that actually earn money, op would be wealthy

Attention to ACCURATE minutiae could have that result.

 

[futurefields]

Imagine if this attention to minutiae could be applied to tasks that actually earn money, op would be wealthy

he mentioned in another thread something about having rich parents and being some kind of trust fund kid, although unhappy about the state of the trust fund

which would explain a lot about his personality/posts and the fact that he can donate so much attention to random, niche, assinine bs while the rest of us are working all day

 

[Anarchist420]

Is there a question here? Is there a topic?

I asked: who agrees that the Xbox One has more potential?

I was thinking the Xbox One is way better because of its graphics architectures's eSRAM and the Xbox One's better Bluetooth version as well as expansion slots.

Also, does the XboxOne even use the same exact architecture as the PS4? If not, then the PS4's higher fill rates, bandwidth, absolute mem amount and more GFLOPs quite possibly dont mean a whole lot.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I asked: who agrees that the Xbox One has more potential?

I was thinking the Xbox One is way better because of its graphics architectures's eSRAM and the Xbox One's better Bluetooth version as well as expansion slots.

Also, does the XboxOne even use the same exact architecture as the PS4? If not, then the PS4's higher fill rates, bandwidth, absolute mem amount and more GFLOPs quite possibly dont mean a whole lot.

The esram was supposed to help ameliorate certain RAM speed deficiencies the xbox had compared to the PS4. Both systems use AMD's "Jaguar" architecture in the CPU, and AMD's "Sea Islands" architecture in the GPU. The main difference is the number of compute units (18 for the PS4 and 12 for the Xbox one), which should give the PS4 a sizable advantage graphically even when you consider that the Xbone is running at a slightly higher clock speed. Overall the xbox one should be the weaker system in virtually all graphical tasks, except in those rare occasions where clock speed helps more than additional cores. Even in those cases both systems would likely be running the task at a high enough speed that no one would notice the difference anyway.

The xbox is indoubtedly the weaker system. That's ok though, it's also close enough in performance that it will run anything the PS4 will run, albeit sometimes with reduced detail settings. It also has a great game lineup, which is my primary reason for choosing it as my personal console.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I asked: who agrees that the Xbox One has more potential?

No one.

This isn't 1996 when we are comparing some weird CPU to some other weird CPU. Both consoles are x86 with standard GPUs. More than any time in gaming history we can point at that PS4 and say with certainty it is the more powerful console.

Does that make it the BETTER console? No way, better is subjective.

I do think though that this obvious disparity in power is giving a PS4 an early advantage with the hardcore gamers (that care about such things) who are usually the early adopters. They might create a momentum for the PS4 that will make it the better longterm option because of a much larger install base.

Until either of them hit sub-$300 they aren't mainstream anyway.

 

[papapapapapapapababy]

agree with the op. the xb1 is more balanced. crappy gpu paired with equally crapy cpu- ram

 

[futurefields]

well the PS4 has more GPU resources.

so if developers ever actually start to take advantage of GPU compute than PS4 games can potentially look a bit better and it would help alleviate the weak cpu.

correct me if im wrong but i dont think many games are using GPU compute.

 

[dguy6789]

agree with the op. the xb1 is more balanced. crappy gpu paired with equally crapy cpu- ram

You and OP are quite similar

 

[master_shake_]

tl;dr

no you can't solder a 4770k in to an xbox one or ps4...

what a silly question.

 

[Lil Frier]

well the PS4 has more GPU resources.

so if developers ever actually start to take advantage of GPU compute than PS4 games can potentially look a bit better and it would help alleviate the weak cpu.

correct me if im wrong but i dont think many games are using GPU compute.

You could probably argue a similar case for why XBLC won't get utilized by third-party developers for offloading menial CPU tasks to Microsoft's servers. With as rushed as release dates already seem to be (see the botched releases of Battlefield, Driveclub, Halo, and Assassin's Creed for examples), it's unlikely that we see strong optimization in the next few years, with the last half of the generation likely being when you would maybe see full use of resources, at least in an efficient manner.

 

[clok1966]

I would be more interested in how much MS will risk to gain market share. They have already sacrificed the Kinect a "integral part" in early marketing blitz's and almost a requirement for early game developers. Right now they are sacrificing Profits (the xbox hardware division is still in the red if you go back to the start of the division). BUT I think with MS's bank role they can turn it around.. I can see a $300 One with a HALO pack In (old school, include an ACTUAL GAME with a console), this could sway the poor sales. Still being behind by roughly 50% after marketing has said sales tripled for 2 months is very telling. The fact MS wont release actual numbers is also pretty much a "our sales suck" comment. Again the question is how much will MS sacrifice to turn it around? Buying ROCKSTAR off like it did with the 360 so GTA wasn't an exclusive for Sony (as it had been) could work.. but any "AAA" titles upcoming are going to take more cash then the ROCKSTAR deal did with the install base 2 to 1 right now. Ms has the cash, but most shareholders (and leaked MS documents) have expressed interest in dissolving the games hardware division so some huge losses on the bottom line that wont ever be recovered (like the original Xbox which the 360 and the ONE both are still trying to pay for) just don't seem feasible. So how far will they go?