What if I asked you "How could you stop/prevent terrorism?"

simms

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In a local sense, what would you do?
In a global sense? Obviously a global sense would seem more difficult to accomplish...

I wish to tread lightly on the matter; we've all been affected in the past few years in some way or other. Sometimes I wish to help out, and thank God I'm still alive - but I don't know where to turn.

What would you do to help?

-Simon
 

CADsortaGUY

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I remember (however vaguely:p) a teeshirt a buddy and I wore (or tried to wear) in highschool. It read:

"Stop racism, Kill everyone"

Now I think we got in trouble for wearing that shirt and they made us turn it inside out I think, but it's basic premise is true. We can't stop others from having their own thoughts, preferences, and/or judgements. While it's nice to think of an utopian society, it is basically unrealistic. For "world peace", a world free of "terrorism", or any other utopian ideal to work we would all have to give up our individualism and right to think for ourselves.

CkG

Edit - before you all jump my ass for wearing a shirt that says "...kill everyone", this was long before the school shootings took center stage and made schools crack down on students right to expression via clothing.
 

simms

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Right, but that's our society as a whole. I can't stop society from being what it is today - but what can I do to help the situation at hand?
 

bolinger

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If you were an American, the answer to that question would be quite simple: vote Republican.
















Of course, since you're Canadian, the only thing you can do is boycott French products and burn an effigy of Saddam at a Pro-War rally.
 

ConclamoLudus

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Internationally:

Do the best we can to cut off their supply line and assets, and get human intelligence to breach their inner circles. Stay one step ahead of them with our intelligence (as much as possible), have other countries cooperate, tell them to try spending our foreign aid on fighting them :)

Locally:

Make sure this isn't necessary. Make sure if a suspected terrorist gets to a local level, INS or FBI already knows about it and has someone on the way...otherwise duck & cover...Once a terrorist gets to a local level, I don't think there is much that can be done. We have this thing called the INS that is supposed to make sure there aren't any expired Visas, but they have proven that they are worthless and until they are completely restructured somehow, they will continue to be worthless when it comes to that.

Preventive Measures:

Keep fighting for a peaceful resolution to Israel/Palestine.
Reach out to islamic leaders both foreign and domestic.
Decrease dependency on foreign oil. (I want my hydro muscle car damnit!!!)
 

simms

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Those are all really good reasons. In this sense however, I feel... like we shoudn't fight. I mean, there's already enough of that in the world. Aren't there any peaceful resolutions to my dilemma? I think I can do the ideas ConclamoLudus said, which is sound. Anyone else have a voice? :)

-Simon
 

jackschmittusa

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Make it an international, capital offence for any leader of any religion to use his/her position of spiritual authority to advocate, aid, abet, or encourage any terrist activities. Make it at least a flogging offense for any such leader to declare any religion inferior to his/her own. You have of course noted that it is never the leaders that blow themselves up. It might have a sobering effect on them if they were to suffer the same fate as those that they brainwash.
 

Zrom999

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Unite the entire world under a gov't in which all parties are treated equally, and brutally squash any malcontents.

Problem: The only form of gov't that can accomplish this task would probably be a Stalinistic Communist Regime, but is ending terrorism worth it?
 

LunarRay

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Each situation is differn't.
Each terrorist organization is differn't.

The IRA can't be stopped in the same way the Al Qaeda.

Assuming you speak of terrorism against the US. You cannot defeat it with threat of anything. They are prepared to die. And do as part of the act in many cases. You cant just invade every nation and what good would that do. They simple merge in with the population at large.

I think either you take away the reason... isolate or you increase your intel and guard against them. They will be ineffective in that as you seek to protect yourself they have terrorized you by that act alone. Or you make them your buddy by helping them secure their non you objectives.
 

cpumaster

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Originally posted by: simms
Those are all really good reasons. In this sense however, I feel... like we shoudn't fight. I mean, there's already enough of that in the world. Aren't there any peaceful resolutions to my dilemma? I think I can do the ideas ConclamoLudus said, which is sound. Anyone else have a voice? :)

-Simon

keep yourself up-to-date with local, domestic alert & maybe any international alert if you're travelling, prepare yourself mentally if something happened and you're in position to stop it or to help others...
other than that nothing much unless you want to volunteer for coast guard duty...

 

JellyBaby

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Make it an international, capital offence for any leader of any religion to use his/her position of spiritual authority to advocate, aid, abet, or encourage any terrist activities. Make it at least a flogging offense for any such leader to declare any religion inferior to his/her own. You have of course noted that it is never the leaders that blow themselves up. It might have a sobering effect on them if they were to suffer the same fate as those that they brainwash.
By whose authority do you create this scenario? On whose authority do you enforce it?

You're right the leaderships of these states are using their citizens/followers as pawns in their schemes with little or no risk to their positions ot power. But, current world leaders will never submit to anything that penal to them.
 

Alistar7

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Who said anything about submitting? At least if they fight we can justify killing them too.....
 

n0cmonkey

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World domination ruled with an iron fist and a fury never before seen by a populace.

That, or everyone should convert to islam.
 

Nitemare

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kill them all, invade any country that sponsors terrorism--kill all of the rulers...establish new government...


repeat as necesary
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
kill them all, invade any country that sponsors terrorism--kill all of the rulers...establish new government...


repeat as necesary
I really hope that my sarcasm meater is broken today, but your avatar is throwing me off.
So, joke or no joke?
 

JellyBaby

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
kill them all, invade any country that sponsors terrorism--kill all of the rulers...establish new government...


repeat as necesary
Hitler tried something similar and met his Allah in due time.

As we move into the future I think the word "terrorism" is going to morph into something more vague. That combined with "pre-emptive strike" may well embroil us perpetual hostility and I personally don't want to see that future.
 

jjones

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Make sure there is at least one fastfood outlet or 7/11 every square mile worldwide. When that is achieved, then terrorism will have succumbed naturally.
 

spaceman

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Nitemare
kill them all, invade any country that sponsors terrorism--kill all of the rulers...establish new government...


repeat as necesary
I really hope that my sarcasm meater is broken today, but your avatar is throwing me off.
So, joke or no joke?


sounds pretty logical to me.


 

SuperTool

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Internationally:
Get out of Iraq. We will be blamed for whatever goes wrong there, since we are now the occupiers. See Israel.
Domestically:
Get rid of Bush in '04. Instead of seizing on the unity after 9/11 against international terrorism, he divided the world with his Iraqi adventure. The man has too many ties to oil industry to effectively fight terrorism when it conflicts with oil interests.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: ncircle
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Nitemare
kill them all, invade any country that sponsors terrorism--kill all of the rulers...establish new government...


repeat as necesary
I really hope that my sarcasm meater is broken today, but your avatar is throwing me off.
So, joke or no joke?


sounds pretty logical to me.
The problem with the "kill 'em all" mentality is that we will be up to our arms in spilled blood and there will still be terrorist attacks, terrorism is something that violence is just not going to solve. I'm not even going to mention what our country has done in Iran, Vietnam and various Latin American countries that matches the dictionary definition of terrorism pretty damn closely, so should we launch a preemptive attack on Hawaii to judge our defenses before we go for the kill? Before you say anything about a different government now, I have to ask who is in charge of Total Information Awareness.
 

simms

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Internationally:
Get out of Iraq. We will be blamed for whatever goes wrong there, since we are now the occupiers. See Israel.
Domestically:
Get rid of Bush in '04. Instead of seizing on the unity after 9/11 against international terrorism, he divided the world with his Iraqi adventure. The man has too many ties to oil industry to effectively fight terrorism when it conflicts with oil interests.

whoa. that's quite true.