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Coming back to the past at the beginning of the present thread, see quotes below.
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I waited for sandorski to define what he brought up about the need for demonstration, etc., but he ran away and to date has not defined what is demonstration.
So, I will do him the favor of defining for him what is demonstration in re the certain knowledge of the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
Demonstration, the word is the transliteration of the Latin noun, demonstratio, do you notice the monster in it?
Yes, monster, as in The Phantom of the Opera, that is an example of a monster.
Now, read carefully, when you demonstrate something you bring it before your audience, correct?
But suppose the something is so very extremely huge, how can you bring it before your audience, like God in concept as the creator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning?
What you do is to present His presence by argument.
There, demonstration is just argument to the existence of something, which you cannot bring forth before your audience owing to its extremely huge size.
Is God extremely huge? Of course, He has got to be extremely huge, as large as to be co-extensive with the universe and even larger, otherwise how could He have caused the universe i.e. created the universe and is operating it all the time and everywhere?
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So, sandorski, you now know what is demonstration?
Demonstration is just argument.
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I waited for sandorski to define what he brought up about the need for demonstration, etc., but he ran away and to date has not defined what is demonstration.
So, I will do him the favor of defining for him what is demonstration in re the certain knowledge of the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
Demonstration, the word is the transliteration of the Latin noun, demonstratio, do you notice the monster in it?
Yes, monster, as in The Phantom of the Opera, that is an example of a monster.
Now, read carefully, when you demonstrate something you bring it before your audience, correct?
But suppose the something is so very extremely huge, how can you bring it before your audience, like God in concept as the creator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning?
What you do is to present His presence by argument.
There, demonstration is just argument to the existence of something, which you cannot bring forth before your audience owing to its extremely huge size.
Is God extremely huge? Of course, He has got to be extremely huge, as large as to be co-extensive with the universe and even larger, otherwise how could He have caused the universe i.e. created the universe and is operating it all the time and everywhere?
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So, sandorski, you now know what is demonstration?
Demonstration is just argument.
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sandorski
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Argument - If a Ball is dropped it will fall to the floor
Demonstration - Holding a ball then dropping it
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Modern world in the West is getting more and more to distinguish between God and religion: so that many persons say that they don't have any religion: but still accept at least the existence of a higher power.
From the part of my opponents here and atheists, they are seemingly the only ones who are ignorant about the distinction between God and religion.
They exhibit unwittingly this ignorance (and shame on them for being ignorant) in calling themselves atheist for a label or brand, atheist means literally 'no God and/or gods' - when if they be not ignorant, they should label or brand themselves as a-religion or anti-religion.
This brings up the question, Is there a distinction between God or gods and religion?
To my observation on honest intelligent and productive thinking, YES!
Let me elaborate:
Religion can implicate God or at least a higher power, but God or at least a higher power does not implicate religion.
So, what is the difference between God and religion?
Do you notice that folks into religion are always asking God or gods for favors of all kinds, and they worship God or gods to flatter them God gods for favors.
For your information:
From the part of my opponents here and atheists, they are seemingly the only ones who are ignorant about the distinction between God and religion.
They exhibit unwittingly this ignorance (and shame on them for being ignorant) in calling themselves atheist for a label or brand, atheist means literally 'no God and/or gods' - when if they be not ignorant, they should label or brand themselves as a-religion or anti-religion.
This brings up the question, Is there a distinction between God or gods and religion?
To my observation on honest intelligent and productive thinking, YES!
Let me elaborate:
Religion can implicate God or at least a higher power, but God or at least a higher power does not implicate religion.
So, what is the difference between God and religion?
Do you notice that folks into religion are always asking God or gods for favors of all kinds, and they worship God or gods to flatter them God gods for favors.
For your information:
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Doubt there is a God and heaven.
You spell God with the G in upper case, so you are not like my opponents here and atheists, they spell god(s) with the g in lower case.
You see, there is a point that my opponents and atheists want to make, namely, that God is just like any god(s), so no need to spell it with the letter G in upper case.
They are making a point but they don't have any argument, because they are now into a trend today that man does not anymore examine what attitude they hold, they just hold it without any examination of whether the attitude is correct or all nothing but plain bias and prejudice.
Now, dear Mai72, at least from honest intelligent productive thinking you do realize, that you have doubt on whether God and heaven exist at all.
No need to doubt existence of heaven, and for that matter, also hell.
They just represent what man aspires after that is better than what man has today, that goes for heaven, and for hell what man fears for tomorrow, that is worse or even the worst than what man has today.
Jesus says that in hell the damned will gnash their teeth for the agonizing pain of burning flesh, and He should have added, "and for those who get there with no teeth anymore for them to gnash with, prosthetic denture will be provided.
My concept of God is the following, "God (in concept) is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning."
If God is everything except the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, I for one will not bother with Him, because such a God will be bereft of the generic formula for genuine God-ship.
It would be like a man is everything except that he is not homo sapiens, that being homo sapiens, that makes him the generic human.
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Dear Sandorski:
You have missed on what is demonstration when the object to be demonstrated is of extremely huge size, you are so myopic, seeing that your brain is the size of your balls.*
And your eyes are pinholes.
Read the text below in bold and in italic.
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*The biggest solid internal organ is your liver, followed by your brain, lungs, heart, and kidneys.
Largest Organ in the Body: Size, Weight & Interesting Facts
https://www.healthline.com/health/largest-organs-in-the-body
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You have missed on what is demonstration when the object to be demonstrated is of extremely huge size, you are so myopic, seeing that your brain is the size of your balls.*
And your eyes are pinholes.
Read the text below in bold and in italic.
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*The biggest solid internal organ is your liver, followed by your brain, lungs, heart, and kidneys.
Largest Organ in the Body: Size, Weight & Interesting Facts
https://www.healthline.com/health/largest-organs-in-the-body
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That was very cunty of you. Let's face it, you are all about intellectual superiority, not God.
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Dear Sandorski, I am all the time very disappointed with you, because you always run away from the serious business of honest intelligent productive thinking.
In other words, you should been born a donkey which is related to the ass, because you are addicted to stubborn irrationality with your pursuit of flight, from the serious and peculiarly human undertaking of honest intelligent productive thinking.
Why do I compare you to a donkey?
Because the donkey is a very stubborn animal, like the goat, but they are both not endowed with the brain of a homo sapiens.
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Anyway, my purpose in my discussion with you on what is demonstration and what is argument, and that they are the same thing, i.e. communication to prove something, my purpose is to get us two to agree on the cognitive usefulness of demonstration as of argument.
And the purpose of both is the attainment of the fact or the truth or the logic of a thought in our mind, like for example the thought of the concept of God in our mind, namely, God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And once we have agreed on the concept, we can then go forth into the world outside and independent of our mind, to seek for evidence to the existence of the object that corresponds to the concept in our mind.
Can you and will understand my point?
Not if you persist in acting like a donkey which is cousin to the ass.
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Okay, sandoski, let you teach me something that is in accordance with honest intelligent productive thinking.
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Dear Stargazr:
You say: "That was very cunty of you. Let's face it, you are all about intellectual superiority, not God."
No need for intellectual superiority for me to get to know "God exists in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning."
Just standard honest intelligent productive thinking, i.e. common and normal with every generic homo sapiens, that includes you, dear Stargazr.
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You say: "That was very cunty of you. Let's face it, you are all about intellectual superiority, not God."
No need for intellectual superiority for me to get to know "God exists in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning."
Just standard honest intelligent productive thinking, i.e. common and normal with every generic homo sapiens, that includes you, dear Stargazr.
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.stargazr Saturday at 3:04 AM #719
Marius Dejess #716 Friday at 4:54 PM
Dear Sandorski:
You have missed on what is demonstration when the object to be demonstrated is of extremely huge size, you are so myopic, seeing that your brain is the size of your balls.*
And your eyes are pinholes.
Read the text below in bold and in italic.
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From Marius Tuesday at 5:23 AM #704
Coming back to the past at the beginning of the present thread, see quotes below.
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I waited for sandorski to define what he brought up about the need for demonstration, etc., but he ran away and to date has not defined what is demonstration.
So, I will do him the favor of defining for him what is demonstration in re the certain knowledge of the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
Demonstration, the word is the transliteration of the Latin noun, demonstratio, do you notice the monster in it?
Yes, monster, as in The Phantom of the Opera, that is an example of a monster.
Now, read carefully, when you demonstrate something you bring it before your audience, correct?
But suppose the something is so very extremely huge, how can you bring it before your audience, like God in concept as the creator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning?
What you do is to present His presence by argument.
There, demonstration is just argument to the existence of something, which you cannot bring forth before your audience owing to its extremely huge size.
Is God extremely huge? Of course, He has got to be extremely huge, as large as to be co-extensive with the universe and even larger, otherwise how could He have caused the universe i.e. created the universe and is operating it all the time and everywhere?
.
So, sandorski, you now know what is demonstration?
Demonstration is just argument.
.
*The biggest solid internal organ is your liver, followed by your brain, lungs, heart, and kidneys.
Largest Organ in the Body: Size, Weight & Interesting Facts
Largest Organ in the Body: Size, Weight & Interesting Facts
The organs in the human body come in all shapes and sizes. The largest organ in the body is the skin, while the largest internal solid organ is the liver, followed by the brain and lungs.www.healthline.com
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That was very cunty of you. Let's face it, you are all about intellectual superiority, not God.
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