What have I done?! Edit: Fixed!

[Ken g6]

Well, I finally got a GPU, that MSI GTX 460. It arrived this afternoon, so I decided to go right ahead and install it.

It was kind of tough getting it into my case. This is what I did to the motherboard getting it in:

So it booted a few times, but it kept rebooting in the middle of the boot process. Finally, it shut off with no warning. Now whenever I switch the power supply on (in the back), it waits a few seconds, keyboard lights blink, the fans twitch, then nothing.

So could the motherboard damage above have done this? If so is there an easy fix? Or could I have fried something in the PSU? Something else?

There goes my main PrimeGrid race machine.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Wrong forum?

Oh, P.S, just RMA it and say it arrived that way...unless you didn't buy it from a retailer, then you're screwed


As far as the PC not booting...i have no idea lol, take out the GTX460 and boot w/o it?

 

[Ken g6]

No; didn't know who else to share this with.

The mobo is 1.5 years old. It's the GPU (not shown) that is new.

 

[RobertE]

Looks like you might have knocked off one of those tiny resisters.

 

[Rudy Toody]

Check the polarity of the on/off cable from the front panel. If MSI is like Gigabyte, the cable is grounded, so if it is backwards, it will think that you are doing the 5-second power down sequence.

The symptoms you describe fit this scenario.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Ooohhh, my bad, i didn't analyze the picture well enough to notice it was the MOBO that was cracked...

Eh, just get a new one, a decent mobo goes for around $40-50...

 

[Ken g6]

Check the polarity of the on/off cable from the front panel. If MSI is like Gigabyte, the cable is grounded, so if it is backwards, it will you are doing the 5-second power down sequence.

On/off cable's been the same way for years. It's set in the BIOS to turn on whenever it gets power, so I tried removing the on/off cable. Same symptoms, no change.

Eh, just get a new one, a decent mobo goes for around $40-50...

Yeah. It's just a hassle getting it, putting it in, and worst of all swapping out the CPU.

Maybe I should look at this as an opportunity. As long as I have to remove the CPU, if I get a non-stock cooler that has screws instead of those dasm pins, maybe I can overclock more!

 

[RavenSEAL]

Maybe I should look at this as an opportunity. As long as I have to remove the CPU, if I get a non-stock cooler that has screws instead of those dasm pins, maybe I can overclock more!

Indeed, i say go for it

If you let me know your socket, i'll look around.

 

[Ken g6]

Socket 775, Q9400. I'm currently looking at this, to go on this, but no final decision yet.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Socket 775, Q9400. I'm currently looking at this, to go on this, but no final decision yet.

I have the AC Freeze 7 Pro on my E8500, keeps it under 50C when clocked @ 4ghz, it's an awesome, if not the best cooler for the price.

 

[Assimilator1]

You want mATX?

Btw your 1st link didn't work for me.

Looks like you might have knocked off one of those tiny resisters.

Unfortunately, I 2nd that!

 

[imaheadcase]

How did you have problems getting in a 460 GTX.. They are small cards. I find it hard pressed you did not have anything bigger in before it. Unless you got some overpriced one with aftermarket cooler that was a waste of money.

 

[Rudy Toody]

Check the 12v cable that inserts by the cpu. If it isn't seated right, you will get a shut-down.

Also, if the psu is underpowered, that 12v may dip below tolerances. The new GPU may be taxing the psu.

 

[TAandy]

this is my WORST nightmare,

I've had a few friends ask me to fix their PC'S

I can, but when it get's so technical????

realising i'm WAY out of my depth!!

 

[Ken g6]

Looks like you might have knocked off one of those tiny resisters.

Yep. I've ordered a new one. Based on comments in the Motherboards section, I just ordered the same model.

How did you have problems getting in a 460 GTX.. They are small cards. I find it hard pressed you did not have anything bigger in before it. Unless you got some overpriced one with aftermarket cooler that was a waste of money.

I was using the onboard Intel graphics before! As far as getting it in, I think I found the problem. I removed as few of the plastic cover bits as possible, in case the card didn't work. One was plugged into the miniDV port, and stuck out quite a bit. It blocked me from getting the card in easily.

Next time I'll stick a small yellow sticky note over the area, just in case.

Check the 12v cable that inserts by the cpu. If it isn't seated right, you will get a shut-down.

Also, if the psu is underpowered, that 12v may dip below tolerances. The new GPU may be taxing the psu.

I removed the card almost immediately. I also tried a different PSU. Edit: I even tried resetting the BIOS. Nope, the old board is dead. :\

 

[Rudy Toody]

The mobo is dead. Long live the mobo.

 

[filibusterman]

I did a similar thing when taking off a CPU HSF and ruined a perfectly good mobo. It did tech me to be very careful when replacing hardware.

 

[petrusbroder]

You are right: controled force is often necessary - and hard to achieve.
I have ruined an older mobo that way. OTOH: I had a good reason to buy a new one (much beter) and to justify it to my significant other ...

 

[Duder1no]

be a bit more careful next time?

just saying.

 

[Assimilator1]

Helpful comment , I think he's probably already figured that out....

 

[Pokey]

Yep, my condolences. Been there done that. On a SFF computer where the GPU card and my big fingers were like a bull in a china shop. Bumped a capaciter and Kaput....... :'(
A hard lesson to learn but will help you in the future..................

 

[Martimus]

I can see two things. First I see two pins shorted on the large ASIC, although this may have always been like this. To fix it, just use some flux and a soldering iron. Pretty simple to correct.

The second is that there are two sets of pads that are unpopulated. Considering the scratching all over, you may have knocked off the components that were there. If this is the case, you could check the bottom of the case for components, and solder them back on. Of course, it will be difficult to tell which went where. Hopefully you have an old picture that you can reference.

 

[SlangNRox]

Don't put the gtx460 in. If you do there's no way I'll catch up to you in primegrid. My gt9800 by itself puts me in first place right now on the daily stats

 

[Ken g6]

I'm back! With a new motherboard!

I haven't shaken everything down yet, but so far so good. How was I supposed to apply that Arctic Silver again? I put a small dab, about 1/2 the size of a pea, in the center. I'm not sure the cooling is as efficient as last time; but I haven't lowered my voltage as much. It may be more efficient!

Martimus, I have no experience soldering. I looked, but couldn't find a component in the case. If there was one it's probably just like those below where the scratches are. Do you want to take the old board off my hands?

SlangNRox, don't worry, I won't install it...until tomorrow. :twisted:

 

[SlangNRox]

let me know what kind of times that 460 gets seiving pps. I might have to do some upgrading