All I ask for is some kind of discussion.
I posted my opinion, if you consider that trolling, then please stay out of this thread.
No, what you did is posted an "opinion" and tried to back it up with flawed logic, and bogus examples that framed the information in a way that makes your opinion seem more legitimate. You chose to use an unnatural and skewed time frame that would put your view in a positive light while making it difficult for others to respond to. People who want a discussion don't already have their mind made up, as evidenced by your initial post and your responses in this thread:
What happened to the PC gaming market? We went from the 1990s and early 2000s where there were lots of good games hitting the market, to it seems that every-other game is overhyped or a flop.
Its like the console kiddies from the 1990s are grown up, making games and the games are crap.
Or, are PC developers making games more towards the console fan club?
In my opinion, there is been a downturn in the overall quality of PC games in the past 5 years.
Because I feel the majority of the games being made these days are "mediocre".
I am not pretending anything, there are good games being made, but I feel the number of bad games outnumber the good games.
I wonder how much of the console deployment side has hindered PC development?
Take a multiplayer game, any game, how many can cross-platform between pc and consoles in multiplayer? Do consoles have rentable servers like PCs do?
How many console multiplayer servers can have modifications, new maps, add-ons,,,,?
I'm not even going to both going and picking out quotes from your last few threads on this topic, which look very much the same as these. Clearly your mind already seems to be made up.
Someone who is looking for a real discussion proposes their opinion in a logical manner and opens their mind to other possibilities. You have clearly demonstrated a lack of willingness to even try to understand why people are disagreeing with you, instead you just stubbornly re-post your own opinion as if its fact.
I provided the first games that came to mind.
Which is exactly the problem. You are trying to provide some kind of empirical evidence to us in your initial post that games have obviously gotten worse, because there are these lists of good games in the past and bad games in the last two years. However, you completely ignore all of the great games from the last two years, and also choose to ignore all of the bad and overhyped games of the past. It is deceitful, flawed logic, and again it makes you look like you are trying to
convince people of something, rather than just share your opinion or start a discussion.
Because that is what I have been playing since diablo II got old. I tried Titan Quest, and got bored with it rather fast. Tried Sacred, got a bored with it as well.
I do not care for third person shooters, tried them, did not care of them, probably will never buy a third person shooter.
Okay, so we have established that your experience with the gaming industry is mostly limited to first person shooters. Yet you present your opinion as if its relevant to the entire industry. If you want to claim that your favored genre is falling out of favor in the industry and not getting as much attention and innovation as you would like, then say that and maybe you have a more valid point. However, you decided to purposely misrepresent information with your 3 lists, and now you are trying to extrapolate on that to make a statement about a broad industry while admitting that you don't even know anything about most of it. Once again, this makes it seem like you have an agenda and are trying to make a point, rather than share your opinion or start a discussion.
I do not know what you are looking for, or wanting? Is there something wrong with posting an opinion about something? Just because you disagree with my opinion makes me a troll?
If you disagree with my opinion, say so. But there is no reason to attack me or my opinion. If anything, your post shows a lack of respect for others. Just because you disagree with someones opinion does not give you the right to sling insults at them.
What I want is for you to be honest, admit that you were making an argument, not sharing an opinion. You weren't trying to start a discussion, you were trying to convince people of something. I'm tired of people hiding behind "opinions" because they cant be wrong. You made a statement about the state of the PC industry, used intentionally deceitful "data" to try to make your point, then continued to defend your position despite the disagreement by a majority of the posters. Now its been pointed out in very clear language what was wrong with your initial assessment, and someone was even so kind as to provide a fairly large list of quality PC games that have come out in recent years to solidly put your argument to rest. I'm tired of seeing this topic discussed over and over and over in every gaming forum in the world, always under the guise of an opinion, and usually with the same result - guy who thinks pc gaming is dying is usually just unhappy about some very recent turn of events like his genre not getting enough love or some major release he was hyped up about turned out bad.
