What happened to Music???

Mai72

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My generation's music vs today's music:

My Music

NWA...

"Straight outta Compton, crazy motherf*** named Ice Cube
From the gang called N*** Wit Attitudes
When I'm called off, I got a sawed-off
Squeeze the trigger and bodies are hauled off
You too boy if you f*** with me
The police are gonna have to come and get me
Off yo ass, that's how I'm going out
For the punk mother*** that's showing out
N*** start to mumble, they wanna rumble
Mix em and cook em in a pot like gumbo
Going off on a mother*** like that
With a gat, that's pointed at yo ass"

Today's Music

Justin Bieber..

"You know you love me, I know you care
Just shout whenever, and I'll be there
You are my love, you are my heart
And we will never ever ever be apart

Are we an item? Girl, quit playing
We're just friends, what are you saying?
Say there's another and look right in my eyes
My first love broke my heart for the first time
And I was like...

Baby, baby, baby oooh
Like baby, baby, baby nooo
Like baby, baby, baby oooh
I thought you'd always be mine (mine)"

LOL!

What happened? Are record labels unable to take chances anymore? Are they afraid of offending their sponsors?
 

SheHateMe

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LOL

Oh boy. Can't believe you compared NWA to Justin Bieber. Two different Genre's...


You should like...compare Sophie B. Hawkin's "Damn, I wish I was your lover" to Rihanna's "Rude Boy"....
 

Crono

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Yeah, they are called two different genres of music. And I'm pretty sure people from the 1800s, 1920s or 1950s would have more of a right to ask, "What happened to Music???" when looking at the lyrics of popular songs.
 
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Mai72

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I know I was comparing two different genres of music. That wasn't the point. Today's popular music has gotten soft. Record labels are afraid to take chances anymore.

Could an act like NWA survive in today's climate?
 

gorcorps

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there's more music today than ever before, and it's never been more accessible than it is right now

If you don't like something, then start searching for something you DO like instead of wasting your time whining. Who gives a shit what Justin Bieber's lyrics are? The only reason this would ever affect you is if you decided to listen to it by your own choosing, and if that's the case then you're just as stupid as this thread.
 

Crono

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I know I was comparing two different genres of music. That wasn't the point. Today's popular music has gotten soft. Record labels are afraid to take chances anymore.

Could an act like NWA survive in today's climate?

Gangsta rap isn't a big genre anymore for a lot of reasons.

1. Rappers went crossover with pop
2. People got tired of hearing about "real" rappers shooting other rappers
3. What you call "soft" music simply switched over from violence to sex
4. Gang culture isn't as idealized or villainized as it was late 80s and early 90s
5. Rappers at the top got wealthy, and then smart about their wealth. Hip hop is run as multifaceted businesses now, with fashion, movies, advertising, and other ventures becoming part of "empire" building. Moguls control the game.

Which isn't to say you can't find music similar in lyrical style to NWA, it just that popular music has to (by definition) appeal to the broadest spectrum of people. Jay-Z and Justin Timberlake or Taylor Swift and B.o.B. have more mass appeal than rapping about the police or how hard it is in the ghetto. It's just how it is, not saying it's good or bad, just different.

Successful artists and producers adapt. Just ask Dr. Dre.
 
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disappoint

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They is betta music than bof those
playin on some banjos
by senile ol white bros

You think you recanize musicoo talent?
You be made fun of even by Jimmy Fallon.

Dang foo
Go back to schoo

yo.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
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both of those types of music are utter crap.

and i would take beiber over the NWA swaring-laden filth
 

Jodell88

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Gangsta rap isn't a big genre anymore for a lot of reasons.

1. Rappers went crossover with pop
2. People got tired of hearing about "real" rappers shooting other rappers
3. What you call "soft" music simply switched over from violence to sex
4. Gang culture isn't as idealized or villainized as it was late 80s and early 90s
5. Rappers at the top got wealthy, and then smsrt about their wealth. Hip hop is run as multifaceted businesses now, with fashion, movies, advertising, and other ventures becoming part of "empire" building. Moguls control the game.

Which isn't to say you can't find music similar in lyrical style to NWA, it just that popular music has to (by definition) appeal to the broadest spectrum of people. Jay-Z and Justin Timberlake or Taylor Swift and B.o.B. have more mass appeal than rapping about the police or how hard it is in the ghetto. It's just how it is, not saying it's good or bad, just different.

Successful artists and producers adapt. Just ask Dr. Dre.
:thumbsup:

If you want good music, don't listen to radio, MTV, VH1, BET, etc.
 

Doppel

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LOL

Oh boy. Can't believe you compared NWA to Justin Bieber. Two different Genre's...


You should like...compare Sophie B. Hawkin's "Damn, I wish I was your lover" to Rihanna's "Rude Boy"....
Yeah it was ridiculous.

Hip hop has gone to shit, though.

95% of the songs sung by hip hop/rap artists are truly pathetic. The lyrics are just constantly about bling, it's extremely lame.
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
Oct 17, 1999
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My generation's music vs today's music:

My Music

NWA...

"Straight outta Compton, crazy motherf*** named Ice Cube
From the gang called N*** Wit Attitudes
When I'm called off, I got a sawed-off
Squeeze the trigger and bodies are hauled off
You too boy if you f*** with me
The police are gonna have to come and get me
Off yo ass, that's how I'm going out
For the punk mother*** that's showing out
N*** start to mumble, they wanna rumble
Mix em and cook em in a pot like gumbo
Going off on a mother*** like that
With a gat, that's pointed at yo ass"

Today's Music

Justin Bieber..

"You know you love me, I know you care
Just shout whenever, and I'll be there
You are my love, you are my heart
And we will never ever ever be apart

Are we an item? Girl, quit playing
We're just friends, what are you saying?
Say there's another and look right in my eyes
My first love broke my heart for the first time
And I was like...

Baby, baby, baby oooh
Like baby, baby, baby nooo
Like baby, baby, baby oooh
I thought you'd always be mine (mine)"

LOL!

What happened? Are record labels unable to take chances anymore? Are they afraid of offending their sponsors?

One of the realities you have to accept is that different people, particularly different generations, have different tastes in music, art, etc. My experience have been that one type of music is not inherently superior to another.

My parents and grandparents would hate both NWA and Beiber. Why should anyone care what they or you think about music?
 
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GTaudiophile

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Mass-market bean counters now decide who succeeds and who doesn't.

It was obvious after watching this recent CBS piece on Janis Joplin that in today's world she would have never succeeded. She was too fat, etc. Sad to think we could be losing such similar icons of music over such superficial traits.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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Your music sucks.
Most of today's pop sucks as well.
In my day we had music which also mostly sucked.
Good music is where and when you find it and it is rare.
As for Siddhartha's well reasoned post above, everyone else's tastes suck.

That said, there is still a lot of really great music being made today and in every generation. I humbly (yeah right) disagree with GTaudiophile's post above. The mass market is dead, shattered by technology and lower entry costs to distribution. Access to obscure artists has never been better. Folkies might remember when the only way to obtain many folk records was to wait for the latest list from Andy's Front Hall or drive to DC. Now Amazon, iTunes, and the rest carry these records and finding them is easy. We are in a golden age where not only can we easily hear the best music of today but also easily listen to almost any music recorded since Edison (except for The Bangles first EP, for which I continue to hunt).
 

MarkXIX

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You know it's bad when my 14 year old daughter is listening to my 80's tunes in the car on the way to school and completely unsolicited she says, "Dad, music today doesn't have a story like 80's music did. Today all the music is the same saying over and over again."

I would surmise that computers happened to music today and that's the primary problem.
 

JackBurton

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You know it's bad when my 14 year old daughter is listening to my 80's tunes in the car on the way to school and completely unsolicited she says, "Dad, music today doesn't have a story like 80's music did. Today all the music is the same saying over and over again."

I would surmise that computers happened to music today and that's the primary problem.

Your daughter is wise.

Edit: fixed grammar error
 
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velillen

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Anything you hear on the radio is stuff written by someone else to be performed with someone in mind in order to make as most money as possible. Song writers get money for their songs being played and used so they want songs that will be played in clubs, sporting events, ect or that appeal to certain markets (bieber, katy perry, ect).

Really just look at most bands. Their first cd or two are what people enjoy and like the band for. Then they get big and have to conform to the industry standard of producing crap that will make money.

As for good bands though. There are tons. Local bands are the way to go as theres almost always way more heart and soul put into the lyrics and shows. I would much rather go to a small bar and watch a small show with 50-100 people than pay 100 bucks to sit in the 300 section to watch some big name person.
 

schmuckley

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A3P5lykeWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuZWkdg2aIQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=953PkxFNiko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FSN8_pp_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBE7u7byTk



One of the things that seems to have been lost in the music industry is the effect different scales and phrasing invoke emotions in people.All they do now is try to appeal to people's most base desires;it's appalling.

When there's a 1-octave range and a midi keyboard beat..yeah..it sucks.

Here's some N.Korean kids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSedE5sU3uc
 
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