fulltilt39
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angminas
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True. With few exceptions, women are women and men are men. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
When you enter the P&N-type arena, you find that most people are on one side or the other, and they're trying to win so they can look good, instead of trying to convey a good message and do what's right. Women's rights? Great. Women acting like they can transcend time, space, and genetics with the mystic power of the holy vagina? Stupid. And, of course, if you say you're not a fan of the women's rights movement (because it's largely not really about rights, but about finding something to fight about), you get all kinds of negative labels applied to you. Pig, misogynist, control freak, Nazi. It's always got to be one extreme or the other. Very sad.
As for the first quote in your sig, it depends on what kind of people you're trying to convince, and for what reasons.
this is what the OP is talking about. Men don't talk like this.
OP hit a little to close to home for you, huh?
Absolutely.
AMCRambler
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Sais the guy with no girlfriend. Get a woman and experience the dilemma first hand. Until then, you will not get it.
JulesMaximus
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8/10
I've noticed that, as I get older, I can trust my friends and family less and less. Anything I say to my siblings will inevitably go full circle. Same goes with friends. I don't know what the fuck the deal is, but I've noticed this over the years, too. Just life I guess. I think as people get older, they become less and less capable of genuine friendships/relationships. Everything gets a layer of artificiality added to it, which makes true trust very difficult.
I've noticed that, as I get older, I can trust my friends and family less and less. Anything I say to my siblings will inevitably go full circle. Same goes with friends. I don't know what the fuck the deal is, but I've noticed this over the years, too. Just life I guess. I think as people get older, they become less and less capable of genuine friendships/relationships. Everything gets a layer of artificiality added to it, which makes true trust very difficult.
fulltilt39
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i also think it's interesting to discuss...just maybe not here. i like discussing it with people i respect and that respect me and know how to have a mature, respectful discussion. there's a lot to it and i think that exploring it helps explain of lot of the surface-level questions that younger generations deal with today.
A buddy of mine got married, and instead of his wife taking his name, he hyphenated his name so it's [first] [her last - his last]. She kept her name completely in-tact.
I've never thought of myself as excessively traditional, but damn... it's pretty hard to look him square in the eye.
I've never thought of myself as excessively traditional, but damn... it's pretty hard to look him square in the eye.
Atomic Playboy
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All this "bros before hoes" talk is a bunch of pussy-ass men putting on a macho facade to feel better about their own failures in finding a relationship with someone of the opposite sex. Men who are happily married to supportive wives don't say this. Ever. It's just the jock assholes who think that because they were born with testicles, they're not only better than anyone who wasn't, they have to advertise that they were born with testicles by being loud, obnoxious, boorish, arrogant pricks at basically every opportunity. These are the guys who whistle at women from cars for no apparent reason except to let everyone around them know that they do, in fact, possess testicles. Who gives a shit? You're a horrible fucking excuse for a human being and you should be beaten to death for the good of the species.
And women: don't be horrible, manipulative shrews. That shit is uncalled for. Yes, we know you have vaginas, and yes, we enjoy playing in them, but using that to control men is just as pathetic as those assholes who can't refrain from yelling "hey baby!" at you every time you walk down the sidewalk. If you use some passive-aggressive bullshit mind control techniques to prevent your man from having any interaction with friends outside of you, you're a bitch. Stop it. Act like a woman and accept that your man would like to have friendships outside of his relationship with you; as long as you are supportive and nurturing, his outside friendships aren't going to be a threat to you, because no man in the world is going to leave behind a supportive, nurturing woman who wants to have sex with him just so he can hang out around a bunch of guys. Well, gay men probably will. But if you're dating a gay man and you aren't a gay man, the relationship is probably doomed anyway.
Really, here's better advice that everyone can follow: Stop acting according to how narrowly-defined gender roles prescribe that you should act. Being born with testicles doesn't give you carte blanche to be a dick. Being born with a vagina doesn't mean you have to act like one. Treat others like you want to be treated. It's not complicated. Just be a decent human being to each other and see if things don't work out smashingly for everyone.
And women: don't be horrible, manipulative shrews. That shit is uncalled for. Yes, we know you have vaginas, and yes, we enjoy playing in them, but using that to control men is just as pathetic as those assholes who can't refrain from yelling "hey baby!" at you every time you walk down the sidewalk. If you use some passive-aggressive bullshit mind control techniques to prevent your man from having any interaction with friends outside of you, you're a bitch. Stop it. Act like a woman and accept that your man would like to have friendships outside of his relationship with you; as long as you are supportive and nurturing, his outside friendships aren't going to be a threat to you, because no man in the world is going to leave behind a supportive, nurturing woman who wants to have sex with him just so he can hang out around a bunch of guys. Well, gay men probably will. But if you're dating a gay man and you aren't a gay man, the relationship is probably doomed anyway.
Really, here's better advice that everyone can follow: Stop acting according to how narrowly-defined gender roles prescribe that you should act. Being born with testicles doesn't give you carte blanche to be a dick. Being born with a vagina doesn't mean you have to act like one. Treat others like you want to be treated. It's not complicated. Just be a decent human being to each other and see if things don't work out smashingly for everyone.
bobross419
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< ----- Has balls... huge ones... made of titanium... with polished calf skin leather ball sack...
FuzzyDunlop
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This. They are all hooked up with those metrosexual ball-less dudes that they married right out of highschool
Agree completely, the older you get the harder it is to find trustworthy friends.
OP - your friend is coming to you to vent his rage about his girlfriend upon you, so that he can keep his mouth shut around her and keep getting pussy. All you have to do is support him, DO NOT add anything to the conversation that is negative about her or else he may quote you on it to his girlfriend - therefore creating anger from her against you. Best thing to do is pretend you like her and support him in his relationship with her - thats what he's most likely looking for.
OR
you can stop complaining to us and tell your friend to sack up and dump the bitch so you guys and finally book that trip to Cabo together.
mrSHEiK124
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SP33Demon
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Hopefully you weren't butt hurt over losing the p-whipped "friend". Acquaintances like that are a dime a dozen. True friends won't dick you over for a spouse, especially if you've known them all of your life.
I can count a couple of good friends on one hand who would know what to do with shears, gasoline, balloons, and a bodybag if we had to. Those are the friends for life that you keep. All the rest cannot tell the difference between a pony and a steed.
I can count a couple of good friends on one hand who would know what to do with shears, gasoline, balloons, and a bodybag if we had to. Those are the friends for life that you keep. All the rest cannot tell the difference between a pony and a steed.
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This isn't about happily married couples. This is about a friend who is a good guy and becomes sketchy due to a manipulative girlfriend who he talks shit about behind her back yet runs to her at the snap of her fingers. Either be consistent or don't be anything at all. My complaint in my post was that people don't have integrity, class, character, etc anymore. Or the case with my aunt's boyfriend?
Some of you guys on here have pretty aggressive responses that aren't related to the subject at hand. I am not a macho guy, we aren't macho guys, I, among others here, am just stating an observation. We aren't the guys who whistle at women, nor do we expect our friends to do that. The term "bro's before hoes" was probably made up by a bunch of teenagers somewhere in high school and I agree, it's not the most intelligent statement, but it's meaning holds true, because even at a young/dumb level, those guys realized how much character their friends were lacking.
I spoke to my pops a while back and he said this is nothing new. He grew up with friends that were cool guys, then he'd run into them a few years later in the park pushing strollers around with kids, with their wives watching them likes hawks, and they were totally different people, it's like he didn't know them anymore.
If I have a girlfriend I'm not going to ploy her against her friends, family, or whatever. I'm not going to impose what she can and cannot do. To be honest I did constantly give advice to my first girlfriend in the past about her family and how she should deal with them etc (strict old school European family, don't ask). I thought I was helping at the time and that my actions were just, but even in a situation where you are 100 % confident that what you are doing is right, it backfires and causes more damage than good. I learned from that, but it wasn't until about a year later that I realized I've done more damage than good. Lesson was? Let people deal with their own problems and enjoy them for who they are. Even if they come to you for advice, try to give it mildly so they can come up with their own solutions instead of imposing your own. Advice is a funny thing as it's intention is to help but yet it can turn against you if the person that received it fails.
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He wasn't an acquaintance, he was my best buddy from elementary school that I spent all of high school with, college, etc. We worked in a lot of the same jobs, hung out several times a week, and spent Christmas' at each others houses with our families etc. It's really suprising to me and sad that our relationship went sour that fast. If someone you know on that level loses your trust/friendship, like someone said here, what are the chances of finding someone really true and of substance in the future? And it is true, the older I get the more sketchy people I meet.
Atomic Playboy
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I was agreeing with you. In this case, his girlfriend is being horrible and manipulative, and that's unacceptable regardless of her gender. That was the whole point of my post. We try to play up gender stereotypes like guys needing to have balls or women acting like bitches, but it's all a bunch of nonsense that can be simply summed up as "act like a decent person." You don't need gender roles for that. Just be a decent human being. It sounds like she isn't being one. Your friend may be too enthralled to realize it, but there's not much you can do but offer friendly advice; he'll have to figure it out on his own.
Spineshank
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My best friend is sorta this way. He doesnt bitch to me bout his gf but she has been slowly turning him against me and he spends every waking moment with her if hes not working. I look at it as, as long as hes happy. But most people i know (guys and girls) that once they are in a relationship they cut off everyone else.
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