What happend to Dean's lead?

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Nocturnal

Nocturnal

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I don't know much about politics but from what I recall Dean was supposed to be the front runner and supposed to be ahead of the other candidates. Did something go wrong?
 
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Wag

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People came to their senses?

I was all for the guy untill I watched him on ABC This Week on his campaign bus. He spoke. That was enough.
 
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MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Uh...Dean was trying to run on one issue...
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Actually he started his campaign on two issues, healthcare and early childcare. Then of course he got the Iraq issue and capitalized on that. Unfortunately when he tried to move on with issues of bringing more people back into the voting process, fiscal conservatism, etc, he was pigeonholed as the angry anti-war candidate and he was never able to shake it.
 
sandorski

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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I wonder if things are being confused here. What I mean is, were earlier Polls mostly National and now most are focused on just Iowa?
 
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CPA

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He was a media politician. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
shiner

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His personality did him in. I think people finally saw what thin skin he had and realized Bush would make him look like a poor man's Walter Mondale in the general election.
 
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heartsurgeon

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Did something go wrong?
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he went up against the clinton's (threatened to fire terry mccauliffe as head of the DNC)
he went up against Bush

he got support by Mosley-Braun and Gore (they are also total dead meat now politically..the Clinton's will not forget they were for Dean, the Anti-Clinton)


 
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digitalsm

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No one is a front runner. Kerry wins Iowa, Dean will likely win N.H. and Edwards will win S.C. Super Tuesday will be up for grabs.
 
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Mail5398

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Kerry made a mistake by having Kennedy introduce him tonight. Here in the south many Democrats can not stand Kennedy. My whole family is lifelong democrats and they hate Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
 
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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Mail5398
Kerry made a mistake by having Kennedy introduce him tonight. Here in the south many Democrats can not stand Kennedy. My whole family is lifelong democrats and they hate Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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Hillary will be the VP on the ticket.

 
CADsortaGUY

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Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mail5398
Kerry made a mistake by having Kennedy introduce him tonight. Here in the south many Democrats can not stand Kennedy. My whole family is lifelong democrats and they hate Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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'Ol swimmer has been stumping for Kerry for a while. Not an asset in a lot of places.

CkG
 
CADsortaGUY

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mail5398
Kerry made a mistake by having Kennedy introduce him tonight. Here in the south many Democrats can not stand Kennedy. My whole family is lifelong democrats and they hate Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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Hillary will be the VP on the ticket.
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2004? Want to place a friendly bet on that?;)

CkG
 
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josphII

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I don't know much about politics but from what I recall Dean was supposed to be the front runner and supposed to be ahead of the other candidates. Did something go wrong?
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the majority of the democratic party isn't as extreme as mr dean
 
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Ferocious

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mail5398
Kerry made a mistake by having Kennedy introduce him tonight. Here in the south many Democrats can not stand Kennedy. My whole family is lifelong democrats and they hate Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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Hillary will be the VP on the ticket.
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Nonsense.

She knows Bush is going to win this year and that there is no real successor to him yet. Jeb Bush has no chance.

She has her eyes on 2008.
 
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digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Mail5398
Kerry made a mistake by having Kennedy introduce him tonight. Here in the south many Democrats can not stand Kennedy. My whole family is lifelong democrats and they hate Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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Which gives the South to John Edwards. This is a race between Kerry, Dean, and Edwards. Clark needs to win New Hampshire to stay in it.
 
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MrYogi

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I think that the Governor's wifes' endorsement did a lot of good for Kerry. Many people who were undecided might have voted for him thinking that he would be best candidate since the first lady endorsed him.
 
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xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Uh...Dean was trying to run on one issue...
Click to expand...

Actually he started his campaign on two issues, healthcare and early childcare. Then of course he got the Iraq issue and capitalized on that. Unfortunately when he tried to move on with issues of bringing more people back into the voting process, fiscal conservatism, etc, he was pigeonholed as the angry anti-war candidate and he was never able to shake it.
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You don't have to go thread-to-thread apologizing for your hero's shortcomings; we understand.
 
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MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Uh...Dean was trying to run on one issue...
Click to expand...

Actually he started his campaign on two issues, healthcare and early childcare. Then of course he got the Iraq issue and capitalized on that. Unfortunately when he tried to move on with issues of bringing more people back into the voting process, fiscal conservatism, etc, he was pigeonholed as the angry anti-war candidate and he was never able to shake it.
Click to expand...

You don't have to go thread-to-thread apologizing for your hero's shortcomings; we understand.
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Nor do you have to go thread to thread gloating over a loss you had nothing to do with...
 
CADsortaGUY

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Uh...Dean was trying to run on one issue...
Click to expand...

Actually he started his campaign on two issues, healthcare and early childcare. Then of course he got the Iraq issue and capitalized on that. Unfortunately when he tried to move on with issues of bringing more people back into the voting process, fiscal conservatism, etc, he was pigeonholed as the angry anti-war candidate and he was never able to shake it.
Click to expand...

You don't have to go thread-to-thread apologizing for your hero's shortcomings; we understand.
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Nor do you have to go thread to thread gloating over a loss you had nothing to do with...
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<raises hand>

Can I? :D

CkG
 
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xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

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Jan 12, 2003
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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Nor do you have to go thread to thread gloating over a loss you had nothing to do with...
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I feel bad; I should have sent more (some) money to Howie...best thing to happen to America since...Truman :)
 
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