What graphics card are you running on KT133A chipset?

[Amke]

I have the following setup

Athlon XP 1600+ 1400mhz
Iwill KK266plus-R mobo (newest bios)
VIA KT133A chipset
ATI 9800PRO All-In-Wonder
1.5GB of PC133 CAS2 Corsair memory
Windows 2000 (current service pack)
Via 4in1 1447v
Antec True 430W PSU

When I plug the graphics card in my computer, it does not post.
I get a message on the screen if i unplug the extra power cable,
but it will not post. The manual says the mobo supports AGP 2x/4x.
The ATI website says the 9800 PRO AIW supports 2x, 8x, and
2x/4x/8x. When I set my mobo to 2x, it still doesn't post. I sent
the card back for repair, but it still doesn't post.

Are these two not compatable? Has someone gotten this chipset
and graphics card to work? If these do not work together, what
other graphics card can I use? ATI 9600XT/PRO AIW? Nvidia 6600 or
6600GT or 6200? I would really like to hear what graphics card
people are using on this chipset that I can get for less than $150
that is pretty new.

I heard from someone that they are running a FX5900XT on their KT133A. But I can't find these for sale, and they are not good bang for the buck anymore. I have thought about getting a FX5200 or FX5500 (128bit versions of both only) and those are $50-60, so pretty cheap, but slower than I would like.

 

[classy]

You'll have to check but even though they say 4/8x some of the newer cards use a lower voltage. I would say based on the age of the mobo the slot may not supply the correct voltage. Don't hold me to this, but I would suspect your agp slot is incompatible because of this.

 

[Peter]

The slot is compatible. If you get a screen message, then the board does at least POST partially. The card might be drawing too much power ... power supplies do age too, mind that.

 

[Amke]

Hmm... didn't think my True430 was that old... maybe 2 years old.

My hardware monitor says my 2.5V is running at 0.31V, but it said that about my old psu, and was one reason I bought a new psu. Since it said the same thing about both psu's, I figured it was a sensor problem. But maybe it is a power regulation problem on the mobo? My GeForce 2 GTS works fine, but then the ATI 9800PRO AIW does draw a bunch of power.

Also, it doesn't always post a message when I don't have the power cable connected. But out of the ~6 times I tired it, it showed the message twice. But it did beep every time when I didn't have it connected.

Also, according to CPU-Z, the AGP Revision is 2.0, data transfer rate is 4x, aperture size is 64MB, and side band addressing is disabled. I would enable side band addressing to see if it makes a difference, but I haven't found it in the bios.

 

[cubeless]

ah, the memories... just retired my last kt133a... was running a pny ti4200...

 

[DanDaManJC]

I have an abit kt7a and I'm running a MSI GF4 Ti4200 8x AGP, but at 4x because that's the max on my mobo and it works just fine. I dunno maybe you didn't plug it in all the way?

 

[Amke]

Since I've tried reseating it about half a dozen times, I'm fairly certain that I had it in correctly. The old graphics card doesn't have a problem needing reseating...

On another note, I'm thinking of hooking the extra power connector to a 300W 3DCool.com PSU that came orginally with the case. Can I have this extra PSU just laying on the desk, or should I connect it to the case somehow?

 

[Amke]

ATI sent me a message saying I need to make my aperture size half the size of my physical memory if possible. I can set it at 256mb in the bios, but that still isn't half of 1.5gb. Anyhoo, this wouldn't keep it from posting... would it?

 

[nomadwind]

My Abit KT7A currently has a GeXCube Radeon 9600Pro in it, running at 4x.

 

[Peter]

Aperture size is nothing to do with this. It doesn't come into play until the OS loads the AGP driver - and you're a LONG way off that. Clueless support drone wasting your time.

DON'T hook components of one system to different power supplies UNLESS these PSUs do at least have common grounding. Will say, if that 2nd PSU isn't mounted to the case, it's a bad idea. Also, PSUs have minimum load requirements, so running just one card on one intended for an entire system might not even be working at all.

 

[Amke]

Boy do I wish I had some geek friends locally... Don't have another AGP system or an alternative PSU that is powerful enough to run this system. I guess I could take the card to a local computer repair place and ask them to see if it posts. Already spent $15 sending the graphics card back once, and hate to send a working card back and get charged a restocking fee. But I also don't like to spend $100 on a PSU that I may not need.

I have tried hooking up my tv to the tv output and seeing if anything shows. I was wondering if the DVI adapter was bad, but nothing showed up on the tv.

Sounds like I either have a bad PSU or bad graphics card.

Perhaps I should have posted this under video, but at the time I figured my new graphics card and old mobo didn't like each other, so I wanted to see what alternative graphics cards people have running on their KT133A systems...

 

[Peter]

As I already said, KT133A is technically able to run that card. Power is supplied to the card through that extra connector not through the slot, so the typical issues on ooooold boards are circumvented - if there isn't enough power to the card, then it's entirely the PSU's fault, not maybe the mainboard's.

The fact that the card manages to complain about no extra power being supplied means that the system DOES run up to this point, and DOES see the graphics card and run its VGA BIOS. It is already doing /something/.

One alternative we must not forget is that there might be a system BIOS problem preventing the card from working. Have you been to the IWill web site to check for updates? Seeing how you're on "latest" already, you might want to check for not-so-public betas.