What grade would you give Slick Willy

[Zebo]

Carter F Good guy. BAD president.

Like what? Is it his fault OPEC decided an embargo? His fault Army generals did'nt tell him helicopters don't work so well in the sand? Nope.

Jimmy Carter is a saint.

He did'nt just talk about service to county, he was top in submarine school and actually served and showed with honor.

He did'nt just talk about business, he was a very sucessful businessman, w/o bilking tax payer teet.

He just did'nt talk about about housing the homeless, he has built houses for them with his own hands.

He did'nt just talk about middle east peace, he invited both sides to Camp david/WH and made them come peace agreements.

He did'nt just talk about about aiding the afflicted, he started Afica Aid and is well on his way to eradicating Guinea worm disease.

He did'nt just talk about extending democracy, he has put his reputation and sometimes his very life on the line in country after country to promote free elections.

etc etc etc.


Way underrated both as a man and as president IMO.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Carter F Good guy. BAD president.

Like what? Is it his fault OPEC decided an embargo? His fault Army generals did'nt tell him helicopters don't work so well in the sand? Nope.

Jimmy Carter is a saint.

He did'nt just talk about service to county, he was top in submarine school and actually served and showed with honor.

He did'nt just talk about business, he was a very sucessful businessman.

He just did'nt talk about about housing the homeless, he has built houses for them with his own hands.

He did'nt just talk about middle east peace, he invited both sides to Camp david/WH and made them come peace agreements.

He did'nt just talk about about aiding the afflicted, he started Afica Aid and is well on his way to eradicating Guinea worm disease.

He did'nt just talk about extending democracy, he has put his reputation and sometimes his very life on the line in country after country to promote free elections.

etc etc etc.


Way underrated both as a man and as president IMO.

Right - which coincides exactly with Whoozyerdaddy's post. Good guy - bad president.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hey Princess, there's already a sister-thread on Bush's performance. Why not take your immature and pendantic bleating there? :roll:

1. I couldn't pass the physical for "princess." Please adjust your viewing position for better comprehension.

2. I already posted, there. The comment was relevant, here as a continuation of my first statement in the post.

3. TS if you don't like it. :laugh:

 

[BBond]

Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

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http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Zebo

Carter F Good guy. BAD president.

Like what? Is it his fault OPEC decided an embargo? His fault Army generals did'nt tell him helicopters don't work so well in the sand? Nope.

Jimmy Carter is a saint.

He did'nt just talk about service to county, he was top in submarine school and actually served and showed with honor.

He did'nt just talk about business, he was a very sucessful businessman.

He just did'nt talk about about housing the homeless, he has built houses for them with his own hands.

He did'nt just talk about middle east peace, he invited both sides to Camp david/WH and made them come peace agreements.

He did'nt just talk about about aiding the afflicted, he started Afica Aid and is well on his way to eradicating Guinea worm disease.

He did'nt just talk about extending democracy, he has put his reputation and sometimes his very life on the line in country after country to promote free elections.

etc etc etc.


Way underrated both as a man and as president IMO.

Right - which coincides exactly with Whoozyerdaddy's post. Good guy - bad president.

Again like what? were you even alive then?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: BBond
Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

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http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

Happens in a leftwinged forum. Guess who got more votes?

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond
Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

edit

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

Happens in a leftwinged forum. Guess who got more votes?

Not at all true. But thanks for playing.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Zebo
D -- police state lover and corporate boot licker who was ammoral too.

D -- Is Bush too for the same reasons plus he's evil.

B -- His father, Generally a good guy and pragmatic.

Reagan and Carter both get A-'s from me.

Hehe, Carter.

Even the democrats hated his ass when he was in office. I think he created more republicans than any other president. Now he's just a senile old fool.

And what are you? He probably accomplished more in a week than you will in a lifetime.

As far as the dems hating him, yeah they wanted to suck the public troth dry for thier intrests he would'nt let them being a populist president. Faught with thenm, unlike Reagan who just gave congress whatever they wanted and exploded the debt.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Again like what? were you even alive then?

Actually yes, I was. :roll:

He was an ineffectual Preident, failing to live up to his many campaign promises, such as tax reform (which he blamed on the Big, Bad Congress, which I'm pretty sure were both Democrat-controlled) He certainly did not succeed in "reducing government bloat and bureaucracy." And do you recall the whole allowing Pahlavi into the US with political asylum which led to the Iran hostage crisis in Tehran?

So yeah, Carter is a great man and quite the humanitarian, but that alone doesn't make a successful World Leader.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Zebo

Again like what? were you even alive then?

Actually yes, I was. :roll:

He was an ineffectual Preident, failing to live up to his many campaign promises, such as tax reform (which he blamed on the Big, Bad Congress, which I'm pretty sure were both Democrat-controlled) He certainly did not succeed in "reducing government bloat and bureaucracy." And do you recall the whole allowing Pahlavi into the US with political asylum which led to the Iran hostage crisis in Tehran?

So yeah, Carter is a great man and quite the humanitarian, but that alone doesn't make a successful World Leader.

You don't diss old freinds. Pahlavi and his family were US allies for 70 years! And you expect the USA to just let then get thier head chopped? Right.

Tax reform he wanted, cutting spending he wanted dems would'nt give it to him. At least he actually vetoed two of thier slush fund budgets..unlike you know who.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Zebo

Again like what? were you even alive then?

Actually yes, I was. :roll:

He was an ineffectual Preident, failing to live up to his many campaign promises, such as tax reform (which he blamed on the Big, Bad Congress, which I'm pretty sure were both Democrat-controlled) He certainly did not succeed in "reducing government bloat and bureaucracy." And do you recall the whole allowing Pahlavi into the US with political asylum which led to the Iran hostage crisis in Tehran?

So yeah, Carter is a great man and quite the humanitarian, but that alone doesn't make a successful World Leader.

What you mean is that he was moral and tried to lead morally. The assholes that make up the political elite in this country are the ones who wouldn't follow and paralized his leadership. Carter was one of our greatest Presidents and a REAL CHRISTIAN.

 

[Zebo]

He was an ineffectual Preident

Like left office with same unemployment numbers he came in with? Like Left office with the exact same number of troops he came in with?


Yeah I guess you're right..

But I like the kind of "ineffectual" compared to what we got now.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Zebo

Again like what? were you even alive then?

Actually yes, I was. :roll:

He was an ineffectual Preident, failing to live up to his many campaign promises, such as tax reform (which he blamed on the Big, Bad Congress, which I'm pretty sure were both Democrat-controlled) He certainly did not succeed in "reducing government bloat and bureaucracy." And do you recall the whole allowing Pahlavi into the US with political asylum which led to the Iran hostage crisis in Tehran?

So yeah, Carter is a great man and quite the humanitarian, but that alone doesn't make a successful World Leader.

You don't diss old freinds. Pahlavi and his family were US allies for 70 years! And you expect the USA to just let then get thier head chopped? Right.

Tax reform he wanted, cutting spending he wanted dems would'nt give it to him. At least he actually vetoed two of thier slush fund budgets..unlike you know who.

If you want to argue that Carter is better than Bush, go ahead. I thought we were discussing his performance in relative isolation to current events, which would be to your argument's benefit, as it was Carter and his security advisor that decided to set up the funds to train Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Zebo

Again like what? were you even alive then?

Actually yes, I was. :roll:

He was an ineffectual Preident, failing to live up to his many campaign promises, such as tax reform (which he blamed on the Big, Bad Congress, which I'm pretty sure were both Democrat-controlled) He certainly did not succeed in "reducing government bloat and bureaucracy." And do you recall the whole allowing Pahlavi into the US with political asylum which led to the Iran hostage crisis in Tehran?

So yeah, Carter is a great man and quite the humanitarian, but that alone doesn't make a successful World Leader.

You don't diss old freinds. Pahlavi and his family were US allies for 70 years! And you expect the USA to just let then get thier head chopped? Right.

Tax reform he wanted, cutting spending he wanted dems would'nt give it to him. At least he actually vetoed two of thier slush fund budgets..unlike you know who.

If you want to argue that Carter is better than Bush, go ahead. I thought we were discussing his performance in relative isolation to current events, which would be to your argument's benefit, as it was Carter and his security advisor that decided to set up the funds to train Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan.

Sometimes you have to choose betwen two evils... and he choose the right one.. Afghanistan was the last stop for communism.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Todd33
B

Could have been an A, but NAFTA and Monica took some points off. Of course the congressional Republicans get a D for all the BS witchhunts.

I could care less about Monica, but he definately loses points for NAFTA, the WTO, and MFN for China. He could have avoided Rwanda and Kosovo, too.

Overall, I'd give him a C. We're really feeling the affects of his "free" trade agreements now.

 

[Zebo]

Carter was one of our greatest Presidents and a REAL CHRISTIAN.

Yeah, it's funny to hear people cry for charachter and morals and such out of thier leaders and when it was right in front of thier face for four years, personified in Carter, they besmerched/derided it...still do to this day.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Sometimes you have to choose betwen two evils... and he choose the right one.. Afghanistan was the last stop for communism.

Yeah, we defeated the Soviet empire, at the expense of fueling militant Islamic fundamentalists. I think it may be a bit premature to decisively declare whether it was the "right choice."

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond
Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

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http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

Happens in a leftwinged forum. Guess who got more votes?

You'd have to guess because no one really knows since there is no paper trail.

Happens in rightwinged elections.

 

[nageov3t]

B.

I think he was a great president, but I do hold him at least partially responsible for the democrats losing control of congress in the 90's, which in turn made the craziness of today's Republican-controlled congress possible.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond
Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

edit

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

Happens in a leftwinged forum. Guess who got more votes?

You'd have to guess because no one really knows since there is no paper trail.

Happens in rightwinged elections.

Bush got 62 million votes. Clinton got 44 million. Guess you'd need quite a big paper trail to make up that gap.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond
Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

edit

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

Happens in a leftwinged forum. Guess who got more votes?

You'd have to guess because no one really knows since there is no paper trail.

Happens in rightwinged elections.

Bush got 62 million votes. Clinton got 44 million. Guess you'd need quite a big paper trail to make up that gap.

Put a viable third-party candidate in there and see how many the Propagandist gets then.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Carter was one of our greatest Presidents and a REAL CHRISTIAN.

Yeah, it's funny to hear people cry for charachter and morals and such out of thier leaders and when it was right in front of thier face for four years, personified in Carter, they besmerched/derided it...still do to this day.

Again, no one is deriding Carter for being a stand-up guy with a near-impeccable character. If the whole of politics was comprised of moral idealists such as him, the country would probably be in great shape. But the the simply truth of reality is that it's not. Like it or not, politics is a dirty game. And while you certainly don't want the sleaziest player on your team, you just as surely don't want the guy afraid of getting his bleached whites dirty on it, either.

The whole reason Carter was elected is because of the political pendulum. In the eyes of the voting public, Nixon had swung the Presidency too far to the "evil" side. To counteract this, St. Carter and his Pearly Whites was nominated and elected. From one extreme to the other. Both equally as unqualified to run our great Nation in the best interest of the citizens, given the rules of The Game. It's sad, but true.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond
Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

edit

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

Happens in a leftwinged forum. Guess who got more votes?

You'd have to guess because no one really knows since there is no paper trail.

Happens in rightwinged elections.

Bush got 62 million votes. Clinton got 44 million. Guess you'd need quite a big paper trail to make up that gap.

Put a viable third-party candidate in there and see how many the Propagandist gets then.

We would but the Dems kept trying to kick Ralph Nader off the ballot. Kind of funny considering how they never would have won a thing had Ross Perot not been in the election.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond
Wow. The Clinton poll looks like the opposite of the Dumbya poll.

edit

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1648302&enterthread=y

Happens in a leftwinged forum. Guess who got more votes?

You'd have to guess because no one really knows since there is no paper trail.

Happens in rightwinged elections.

Bush got 62 million votes. Clinton got 44 million. Guess you'd need quite a big paper trail to make up that gap.

Were you born dishonest or does that come with neocon affiliation?

You know damn well a) they be lots more voters today b) no credible third party was sucking off votes from the two major parties. c) all time voter turn out as a %

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: zendari
Bush got 62 million votes. Clinton got 44 million. Guess you'd need quite a big paper trail to make up that gap.

Put a viable third-party candidate in there and see how many the Propagandist gets then.

We would but the Dems kept trying to kick Ralph Nader off the ballot. Kind of funny considering how they never would have won a thing had Ross Perot not been in the election.

They weren't trying to kick him off of anything. They were trying to be sure he was following the rules. It's a good thing, too, as members of the GOP were found to be attempting to commit fraud in gathering signatures to get Nader on the ballot in some states.

And, Ross Perot *might* have won if he'd picked a decent running mate. When he chose Stockdale, he lost my vote.