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[Gikaseixas]

I will never understand your constant and presistent need to paint negatively every AMD achievement. Your bickering knows no limits, that much i'll give ya.

 

[Scali]

I will never understand your constant and presistent need to paint negatively every AMD achievement.

Did I say anything negative about x64? I don't think I did (I know I made a positive remark about 3DNow! anyway).
I think x64 is great (compared to x86 anyway), which is why I adopted it at such an early stage.
However, I refuse to give credit to AMD for x64 when someone demands it in a thread.
Especially when *I* wasn't even the one who brought up x64 in the first place, and the thread really has nothing to do with x64 at all.
I have my principles against nonsense like that. Once you start with that kind of nonsense, it will be EVEN MORE impossible to have any kind of meaningful discussion. You'd have to explain and credit every single word you type.

Again, people see what they want to see. You just see the negative AMD stuff. Apparently you get triggered by that. Says more about you than about me, really.
It seems the 3DNow! comment just went straight past you, as it was a positive comment, not a negative one. It just didn't register at all.

 

[Janooo]

I specifically stated 3DNow! in my original post:
"The last time AMD tried to push their own instructionset, it didn't take off... 3DNow! was not a bad instructionset at all, but there just weren't enough CPUs on the market to get support from compilers and applications."

It's not my fault that some people have this uncontrollable urge to try and squeeze x64 into the point I was making (so if anyone was moving goalposts, it wasn't me)... which means it is no longer the point I was making, as x64 and 3DNow! are fundamentally different in that Intel supports one, but not the other.
Can we please drop it now? I am getting tired of having to report all these AMD fanboys.

Scali, if you claim that 3DNow is the last AMD's own instruction set being pushed by them then you are wrong. x64 came as AMD's own and only AMD's at the time after 3DNow and later it was adopted by Intel. Now, more people are telling you that your statement was false so, please, save your face and shut up already!

This isn't your personal character bashing forum, Janoo. A little more respect for your fellow members if you please. This goes for everyone else as well who see fit to attack someone for their opinions. Next one takes a breather for a few days.
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[taserbro]

Scali, if you claim that 3DNow is the last AMD's own instruction set being pushed by them then you are wrong. x64 came as AMD's own and only AMD's at the time after 3DNow and later it was adopted by Intel. Now, more people are telling you that your statement was false so, please, save your face and shut up already!

Look, I want nothing of the cacophonic competition for cheap corroboration here but at least on one outsider's perspective, Scali has absolutely no reason to need to save face.

His statement, within the context he meant it for, is perfectly valid. The way I understand it, amd meant for 3dnow to be proprietary whereas x64 was meant to be adopted by everyone to take off at which point it is no longer amd's own; the former wasn't successful which makes his connection perfectly cogent albeit unrelated to his main point as he continuously points out. On the other hand, others seem obstinate in challenging this statement by redefining what "amd's own instruction" should mean and turning this into a no-true-scotsman fallacy for the sole reason to discredit his argument which had nothing to do with x64 in the first place.

Furthermore, I note he's just about the only poster in this conversation who has displayed the ability to filter out flamebait from posts and ignore them while still responding to the remaining arguments candidly.
Either he's displaying some incredible patience as an exercise in dealing with a world gone mad or I don't even know why he bothers trying to defend his position with a bunch of people who've made very clear they're uninterested in changing their stance at all and just want to prove him wrong on whatever technicality they can pin him on.

So please! Just let it go; the thread is not about x64.
I, for one, value the contributions of members like him for the technical insight they provide whether it happens to put particular brands in a good light or not and I'm betting this kind of bickering does nothing to encourage them or anyone else to contribute to the community or anyone else who's able to accept knowledge from others even if they happen to disagree on some random point. AT was one of the last bastion on the internet where I saw civil and meaningful discussions without this brand loyalty shenanigans and I'd hate to see it sink to that level and start to reek of the same unfriendly atmosphere that's a huge turn off for serious members to speak out.