What games to get for PS4?

[Bird222]

In particular what first person shooter game and what sports game?

 

[Lil Frier]

I mean, which sports do you like? Those make up your answer. MLB The Show is great, but if you don't like baseball, it's not going to do you any good. From there, your options are pretty limited. NBA 2K and Madden are the only serious options for the NBA and NFL, respectively. IDK how the two soccer franchises compare. IDK if NHL 2K still exists, so NHL 16 might be your only option.

For shooters, it's hard to suggest something, again, without knowing what you like. Killzone seemed to end up quite ho-hum. Call of Duty is on a downward slope on a hill of feces, to me. Battlefield is still slumbering after the so-so Hardline. I really like the barebones Battlefront experience, but most seemed disappointed in it. Rainbow Six: Siege is tactical, but pointless without a group to play with so you can plan your assaults and defenses.

Honestly, unless you're a gigantic baseball fan (which I am), the Xbox One seems to be in a better spot for both sports (EA Access) and first-person shooters (Halo vs. Killzone, with all of the other noteworthy titles multi-platform).

 

[purbeast0]

i would STRONGLY recommend buying the order as soon as you see this post at gamestop for $10

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/the-order-1886/109957

it's the best single player game i've played this gen on either x1 or ps4. it's like 8-10 hours long and has no replayability for the most part, so for $10 it is a no brainer.

 

[Bird222]

I'm really just getting back into gaming. I'll probably be playing alone most of the time. I like basketball and football. Between Madden and NBA 2K16, which to choose? So Call of Duty Blacks Ops 3 is a no go? Is there an older one that is better?

EDIT: Maybe I should go with Grand Theft Auto instead of a shooter? I don't know.

 

[Lil Frier]

I mean, I'm not the best person to ask. I think GTA is awful, and I think CoD's been bad since Ghosts. There just isn't a CoD I find worth its weight in poop on the new consoles, BO2 is the newest one I can tolerate. I played AW for a couple of weeks, maybe, and BO3's beta (which is just a drunken mash-up of Titanfall and Advanced Warfare to me, no real identity in that game).

Madden vs. NBA just comes down to which sport you prefer. I got Madden 15 after not getting a Madden game since Madden 08, and I got bored after maybe a month. On the other had, I haven't been interested in getting an NBA 2K game, the last I got was 2K12, and I barely touched it. I'd probably have more fun with Madden's Ultimate Team than anything else, but that's just a guess.

If I had a PS4, and no Xbox One, it would be Battlefront as my preferred FPS, with Siege probably #2. From there, it's probably a toss-up between Destiny and Hardline. Madden and NBA would be a toss-up as well, though MLB The Show would get purchased before either of them, no question.

 

[digiram]

BO3 offers a whole lot. Co-op campaign, Zombie Mode, this new Nightmare Mode, Freerun, and of course multiplayer.

Yes, i still play every COD that comes out each year. I actually, really enjoyed AW to. Ghost was horrible though.

 

[Homerboy]

3 months until The Show -- can.not.wait.

The whole reason I bought... er I bought my son... a PS4

 

[Sulaco]

I'm really just getting back into gaming. I'll probably be playing alone most of the time. I like basketball and football. Between Madden and NBA 2K16, which to choose? So Call of Duty Blacks Ops 3 is a no go? Is there an older one that is better?

EDIT: Maybe I should go with Grand Theft Auto instead of a shooter? I don't know.

What? What kind of question is that? Which to choose; apples or oranges?

What sport do you prefer? NBA 2K16 is overall the better game from a content and "true-to-the-sport" perspective, but that means very little if football is more your speed.

That being said, Madden 16 is superb. I know, I know. It's almost as cool to hate Madden as it is Final Fantasy VII, but the truth is it's easily the best Madden on the field in the last decade. Not perfect, and STILL lags behind NFL 2K5 in the presentation department (inexcusably), but it IS an excellent game of football.

 

[Bird222]

Ok what about this. Which game is easier to learn Madden or NBA 2K16?

 

[Sulaco]

Ok what about this. Which game is easier to learn Madden or NBA 2K16?

Well, which sport do you tend to understand more: basketball or football?

Both games can be played in an easy to grasp "arcade" style, or can be more hardcore sims if that's what you want.
I would say probably Madden, out of the box, is the easier experience and more accessible. On the easier settings, you can dink and dunk the defense for easy yards, and the running game with a decent HB is a cakewalk. From there, you can work up to higher difficulties and more realism.

Honestly, I'd say if you're hung up on it, your best bet is to ask yourself a) which sport do you prefer more overall or see yourself playing the most the next several months, and b) What's the price difference between the games?

 

[Lil Frier]

3 months until The Show -- can.not.wait.

The whole reason I bought... er I bought my son... a PS4

Sony exclusives I'm legitimately jealous of:

1. MLB The Show
2. Kingdom Hearts (well, until KH3)

Really, I don't care about much of anything else on the Sony exclusive side. Not to say I think the stuff is bad, but I can live without Ratchet & Clank, Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, and God of War. Still, my jealousy of The Show really only comes from the end of MLB 2K. Though MLB 2K was buggy and arcadey, its control scheme made up for it tenfold. I loved the gesture pitching, hitting, and fielding. It was BY FAR the best control scheme I've experienced in a sports game, though I've not really touched MLB The Show to compare.

That being said, Madden 16 is superb. I know, I know. It's almost as cool to hate Madden as it is Final Fantasy VII, but the truth is it's easily the best Madden on the field in the last decade. Not perfect, and STILL lags behind NFL 2K5 in the presentation department (inexcusably), but it IS an excellent game of football.

That almost makes me what to try Madden 16. Then I remember it'll be in EA Access in 2 months or so (once the Super Bowl is over), and I'm fine waiting. I hadn't bought a Madden since 08, and I hadn't PLAYED one since 12, yet when I bought Madden 15, I maybe lasted 2 months before I found it a redundant chore.

Ok what about this. Which game is easier to learn Madden or NBA 2K16?

Well, which sport do you tend to understand more: basketball or football?

Did something massive change with NBA 2K in the past few years? Basketball games are fundamentally MUCH simpler. You don't have to read defenses or deal with several players on both sides of the ball or call real plays. NBA 2K has always allowed a decent amount of just setting screens and dribbling until you get open, then it's just basic timing. Post play has always been rough and clunky, but basketball games are just SO MUCH EASIER than Madden because there's a lot less going on, less to watch, and less to plan.

 

[Sulaco]

Sony exclusives I'm legitimately jealous of:

1. MLB The Show
2. Kingdom Hearts (well, until KH3)

Really, I don't care about much of anything else on the Sony exclusive side. Not to say I think the stuff is bad, but I can live without Ratchet & Clank, Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, and God of War. Still, my jealousy of The Show really only comes from the end of MLB 2K. Though MLB 2K was buggy and arcadey, its control scheme made up for it tenfold. I loved the gesture pitching, hitting, and fielding. It was BY FAR the best control scheme I've experienced in a sports game, though I've not really touched MLB The Show to compare.



That almost makes me what to try Madden 16. Then I remember it'll be in EA Access in 2 months or so (once the Super Bowl is over), and I'm fine waiting. I hadn't bought a Madden since 08, and I hadn't PLAYED one since 12, yet when I bought Madden 15, I maybe lasted 2 months before I found it a redundant chore.

I can hardily recommend Madden this year. And I find that weird to type lol.

I had last year's version as well. And it's VERY pretty and eye pleasing out of the box, and gives a satisfying game of football on the surface. But the more you played, the more flaws you saw; flaws that ruined the game experience just as you were starting to really get into it. QBs took WAY too many sacks. Sliders didn't seem to effect much, if anything. And my biggest complaint about the series in the last several years: WRs do not fight for the ball. It made passing the ball, on higher difficulties nearly impossible, and the overall experience infuriating. It would not be uncommon to have more than four INTs a game, unless you're just dunking it off on crossing routes for 7 yards every play.
Thankfully, that has largely been addressed this go around, and the specific "catching" animations and defensive animations that DBs enter into when contesting a ball is far more realistic.

Did something massive change with NBA 2K in the past few years? Basketball games are fundamentally MUCH simpler. You don't have to read defenses or deal with several players on both sides of the ball or call real plays. NBA 2K has always allowed a decent amount of just setting screens and dribbling until you get open, then it's just basic timing. Post play has always been rough and clunky, but basketball games are just SO MUCH EASIER than Madden because there's a lot less going on, less to watch, and less to plan.

Actually yes.

NBA 2K went through some pretty intensive and fundamental AI changes, specifically focusing on defense and running actual plays.
Unlike in years past, where you could largely repeat many of the same plays over and over again, or take a superstar and run iso on the defender and drive to the basket, this year the AI actually adapts to what your tendencies are. Actually running set plays, or switching up your schemes when defenders begin to adapt is much more important.
Also, the defensive side is much more organic feeling, and trickier. You have to play closer attention to the movements of the offensive players, and stay with your many a lot tighter.
I haven't played nearly as much 2K16 yet, but what I've played so far it seems like a more challenging game overall, and that largely comes down to having more knowledge about real world basketball strategy.

 

[cmdrdredd]

What? What kind of question is that? Which to choose; apples or oranges?

What sport do you prefer? NBA 2K16 is overall the better game from a content and "true-to-the-sport" perspective, but that means very little if football is more your speed.

That being said, Madden 16 is superb. I know, I know. It's almost as cool to hate Madden as it is Final Fantasy VII, but the truth is it's easily the best Madden on the field in the last decade. Not perfect, and STILL lags behind NFL 2K5 in the presentation department (inexcusably), but it IS an excellent game of football.

With the same forced fumbles, interceptions out of nowhere, and rubberbanding AI as last year and the year before. It's not a good game from a game perspective. EA is really doing the NFL a disservice with their game.

 

[Sulaco]

With the same forced fumbles, interceptions out of nowhere, and rubberbanding AI as last year and the year before. It's not a good game from a game perspective. EA is really doing the NFL a disservice with their game.

Yeah, no.

I've put in close to a hundred hours so far. 3 full Career seasons, probably 15-20 exhibition games tweaking sliders.
About the same amount last year.

To say they're the same is laughable. Out of the box it has its flaws, but no true sports fan doesn't tweak sliders for optimal realism. And with the slider set I'm running (second most popular one on OS, at the moment by number of replies), I'm seeing VERY realistic stats, including fumble and INT numbers.
If you're struggling with those things to the same degree, you need to adjust your play style, or find a slider set that's your speed. But to say it's as flawed in those areas as last year's is laughable.

 

[cmdrdredd]

No it's got the same crap you don't control as every year. EA never changes that. You think the numbers are realistic because the stats say so but if you go back and look at the replay frame by frame, a lot of the time you will see that in real life nobody would fumble the ball the way the game says it happened. I've seen interceptions when the defender isn't looking and the ball magically jumps into their hand through their helmet.

It has nothing to do with the stats and everything to do with EA's laziness with the animations and AI. Further, certain things are destined to happen. You don't control every aspect of the game and the game will force certain things to happen like interceptions or fumbles no matter what you do but most sports games are like this. The only exception I can think of is The Show because of how baseball works vs something like football with more players in motion at a time and you being able to control only one. Even NBA2k games have a lot of annoyances which is why I stopped playing them. Namely AI controlled players will draw fouls at inopportune times.

 

[Sulaco]

No it's got the same crap you don't control as every year. EA never changes that. You think the numbers are realistic because the stats say so but if you go back and look at the replay frame by frame, a lot of the time you will see that in real life nobody would fumble the ball the way the game says it happened. I've seen interceptions when the defender isn't looking and the ball magically jumps into their hand through their helmet.

It has nothing to do with the stats and everything to do with EA's laziness with the animations and AI. Further, certain things are destined to happen. You don't control every aspect of the game and the game will force certain things to happen like interceptions or fumbles no matter what you do but most sports games are like this. The only exception I can think of is The Show because of how baseball works vs something like football with more players in motion at a time and you being able to control only one.

I don't know. I think it's always hard making calls like that.

I personally haven't seen many "funky" animations that are wholly unrealistic or ruin the game. Most all fumbles I've seen or INTs made happen on plays where the right personnel were in position to make such plays. The new CB/WR animations, for example, do a wonderful job of eliminating much of the nonsensical "exorcist DBs" head-on-a-swivel animations and reduce the fight for the ball to a WR/CB dice roll, which is what it should be.

It's not perfect, but then again, neither is football itself. Weird and "unrealistic" plays happen on a weekly basis even in the NFL.
I think the litmus test is "Do they happen a lot/enough to consistently affect outcomes?", and I have to honestly say no. I just don't see it that much.
And compared to last year? When I was sacking/being sacked 6-7 times a game and throwing that many INTs? It's not close. Last year was a mess in some pretty fundamental areas.