What fresh hell is this?

Raduque

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Windows 10 decided on its own to go ahead and delete every instance of CPU-Z on my hard drives. The "Compatibility Assistant" claims that it can "damage my PC or files" so it "helpfully" removed it.

FFS Microsoft!

Disable and stop the "Program Compatibility Assistant" to stop this bull. Let's see how many times Windows Updates re-enable this garbage. *sigh*
 

PliotronX

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Yeah the fun surprises of 10 are why I run 8.1 on my main home rig. 10 only on the office pc...
 

JackMDS

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Some of the clever assement programs like CPUZ (and others) are Good because they use Unorthodox calls to the system.

Personalty I find them very useful, the Trick is to use the portable versions and placed them in its own Folder. By doing so Windows would not find them to delete and the "Program Compatibility Assistant" (which is useful too) can stay On.


:cool:
 

UsandThem

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Some of the clever assement programs like CPUZ (and others) are Good because they use Unorthodox calls to the system.

Personalty I find them very useful, the Trick is to use the portable versions and placed them in its own Folder. By doing so Windows would not find them to delete and the "Program Compatibility Assistant" (which is useful too) can stay On.

I just checked for this after seeing the OP, as I keep the "portable" or stand-alone version on my desktop. It's still there, and still works fine after the update, so this is a good way to not deal with the compatibility assistant. I also do this with other utilities like CrystalDiskInfo (and benchmark), and GPU-Z, and they are all unaffected.
 

Micrornd

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Windows 10 decided on its own to go ahead and delete every instance of CPU-Z on my hard drives. The "Compatibility Assistant" claims that it can "damage my PC or files" so it "helpfully" removed it.
It would be of help to note what version and build of Windows 10 you are referring to.
I'm on the "skip ahead" jaunt, but have used all the regular builds previously and currently am using version 1803 build 17677 of WfW.
I have not seen that behavior in the past, nor now and I keep CPU-Z installed as a program, not portable.
Perhaps others can input as to their situations?
 

UsandThem

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It would be of help to note what version and build of Windows 10 you are referring to.
I'm on the "skip ahead" jaunt, but have used all the regular builds previously and currently am using version 1803 build 17677 of WfW.
I have not seen that behavior in the past, nor now and I keep CPU-Z installed as a program, not portable.
Perhaps others can input as to their situations?

Since the OP just created his post, it's most likely the most recent update, which for me is build version 17134, but maybe they are talking about the big spring update a few weeks back.
 

Ketchup

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I just installed CPU-Z yesterday running the latest officiak release of Windows and no issues. Wonderining if it was an older version that triggered these issues. Not to say that I haven't had my own run-ins with perfectly legit programs and Windows 10's filters - but most are easy-enough to deal with.
 

bbhaag

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The Program Compatibility Assistant isn't a "fresh hell". Its origins actually go back to Vista which was the predecessor to the much beloved Windows 7. Vista and 7 have much in common but one was hated and one was loved. I suppose that's a bit OT though.
Anyway, I have an older version of CPU-Z installed and when I upgraded to 1803 I did not have any issues with program compatibility removing it. I also don't have any recollection of disabling the Program Compatibility Assistant in any other version of Windows 10 so I don't believe that it would be carried over from the upgrade.

An alternative is that perhaps you acquired the version of CPU-Z you were using from an untrusted source and it had some elements added to it that Windows 10 didn't care for.
 

Raduque

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Since the OP just created his post, it's most likely the most recent update, which for me is build version 17134, but maybe they are talking about the big spring update a few weeks back.

Sorry, forgot to put the version (thought I did!). It's 1803, build 17134.48.

And I did have the portable version, in a folder on my desktop, which is now missing. Of course the installed version of it is missing too, and more weirdness, when I clicked "Learn More" in the notification center, I get the German language version of the Microsoft page explaining it.

The Program Compatibility Assistant isn't a "fresh hell". Its origins actually go back to Vista which was the predecessor to the much beloved Windows 7. Vista and 7 have much in common but one was hated and one was loved. I suppose that's a bit OT though.
Anyway, I have an older version of CPU-Z installed and when I upgraded to 1803 I did not have any issues with program compatibility removing it. I also don't have any recollection of disabling the Program Compatibility Assistant in any other version of Windows 10 so I don't believe that it would be carried over from the upgrade.

An alternative is that perhaps you acquired the version of CPU-Z you were using from an untrusted source and it had some elements added to it that Windows 10 didn't care for.


It's a fresh hell for me, because I've never seen it remove a program before, ever, not even when I installed some very sketchy things.

I only downloaded CPU-Z from their official website cpuid.com. It's version 1.75 according to the installer I just re-ran.

I actually loved Windows Vista. Aero Glass was one of the best things ever, and I never had a problem running Vista (even did the betas!) fine on my contemporary laptop, which was a Pentium M overclocked, 2gb ram and a Radeon x300 GPU.
 
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JackMDS

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Desktop Folder is on the "List" of folders that Windows routines look into.

In situations like this it is better to have Folder that is out of the mainstream of Windows Folder.

As an example, One can make a folder like C:\Utilities put the portables Utils there and make link at the desktop or elsewhere One wants to invoke it from.

BTW, using self made Folders out of the mainstreams like Programs Files and Users. Makes the whole system safer since many of the Hacks and other Junk are programed to go and mess around there,while they have No clue about places that a smart User generated on his own.


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BonzaiDuck

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It could be too early to tell for me in my actions after reading this thread a few days ago.

I have dual-boot Win 7 /Win-10. I did most of my OC tweaking under the earlier OS. some of the stress-testing apps malfunction when I use RAM for my (Primo) Cache in Win 10. My CPU-Z was only installed on Win 7; I run HWInfo64 under Win 10 (so who would need CPU-Z -- really?)

I just downloaded CPU-Z from the CPUID site, and it's been on my system for at least four days. It hasn't disappeared; nothing raises it to my attention; it still runs.