What exactly is Islamofascism?

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Islamofascists want to cut your head off or kill you because you are not a muslim.

Kind of like a left wing nut job that can not tolerate any one that does not fit their agenda.

My way or the highway; Highway to Hell that is.

This is a left only issue? Or a "muslim" issue?

Delusional.


Islamofascists do not exist.. it is a way to group a bunch of people together as "enemies" to hate.. by the people who pretty much hate everyone that is different.

The U.S. supports dictators that keep their people poor... and then get mad when these poor people blame the U.S. and threaten action.... It is such a complicated issue! The U.S. is the poor victim... of "islamofascists" that WE create with our actions.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Islamofascists want to cut your head off or kill you because you are not a muslim.

Kind of like a left wing nut job that can not tolerate any one that does not fit their agenda.

My way or the highway; Highway to Hell that is.

Anyone who isn't on your side is wrong, amirite? Wow, go back to elementary school.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You might not think they are a threat but I do, just not on the same level as the Soviets, the Nazis or the Japanese were like you and the other fear mongers like Bush , his Handlers and the assholes who support them. In fact I'm not so sure Bushes handlers believe they are on the same level, they just say they are so they can frighten Americans into giving up their liberties and to let this Administration get away with the shit they have been.

Oh, I know they are a threat. I think the real problem here is that we now have a generation in this country which has never known -- and faced -- tyranny. They've never seen a Stalin or a Hitler, and, indeed, many are naive enough to believe that such a scenario could never occur in this "modern" day and age. These people are sadly mistaken and incredibly naive.

you really don't think that the bush administration is acting on tyranny? really?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Islamofascists want to cut your head off or kill you because you are not a muslim.

Kind of like a left wing nut job that can not tolerate any one that does not fit their agenda.

My way or the highway; Highway to Hell that is.

"if you're not with us, you're against us"... yeah, i'm sure liberals have been saying that for a while.

by the way, liberals are on the complete opposite side of the spectrum from fascism. it's righties who are more like fascists than the left.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They're the new Boogeyman, an alleged threat to the way we live (like they even compare to the Soviets , the Japanese or the Nazis when it comes to a real threat)

"I don't know, maybe from the suburbs of Bahgdad where Islamafacist take the Moderates out in the streets and execute them only after raping their wives and daughters."

funny you knew what one was last month.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They're the new Boogeyman, an alleged threat to the way we live (like they even compare to the Soviets , the Japanese or the Nazis when it comes to a real threat)

"I don't know, maybe from the suburbs of Bahgdad where Islamafacist take the Moderates out in the streets and execute them only after raping their wives and daughters."

funny you knew what one was last month.

I know that's what Muslim extremists are called and I used that term, what's the confusion? I also know that they aren't as big a threat to us as Bush and his Handlers make them out to be to scare some of us into conceding some of our Rights.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: piasabird
Islamofascists want to cut your head off or kill you because you are not a muslim.

Kind of like a left wing nut job that can not tolerate any one that does not fit their agenda.

My way or the highway; Highway to Hell that is.

This is a left only issue? Or a "muslim" issue?

Delusional.


Islamofascists do not exist.. it is a way to group a bunch of people together as "enemies" to hate.. by the people who pretty much hate everyone that is different.

The U.S. supports dictators that keep their people poor... and then get mad when these poor people blame the U.S. and threaten action.... It is such a complicated issue! The U.S. is the poor victim... of "islamofascists" that WE create with our actions.

It's a Qoran issue nitwit. No matter how many times this issue is side-skirted, or trivialized, the fact remains the Islam crazies are STRICT int heir following of the teachings of Mohammed: convert or die.

 

[cwjerome]

Topic Title: What exactly is Islamofascism?

Islamic fascism. (wow, that was hard)

Islamic totalitarianism might be a better descriptor, but it doesn't have quite the ring.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: Narmer
Last week, a right-wing nutjob and former alumni came to Columbia and declared that week "Islamofascism Awareness Week".
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/27784

This all begs the questions:
Who are these islamofascists and why are they such a threat to the world? Virtually all native Middle Eastern muslims are capable of becoming radical sympathizers. Most citizens are brainwashed by state controlled media, and children are conditioned at an early age to hate and reject everything non-Islamic.
Are they united in their fight against us? Fight everything non-islamic: through legal, illegal, and violent ways.
Where are their bases? North America, Europe, Middle East (SA, Syria, Iran, most notably)
Is this "threat" just a figment of our imagination? Nope.
Have they been successful in their endeavours? Yes.
Were they born out of the ashes of Arab nationalism? Nope.
Is this an ideological movement or religious? Both.

Says the idiot who made this thread :laugh:

My penis issues are irrelevant.

Green Bean, that was inappropriate - both the 'idiot' comment (though I have a very low opinion of the political views he posted) and the abuse of his thread in another forum.

People post there for help and it's lousy of you to use that against them, and discourage people from posting like that.

Actually this is what I was referring to from that thread.

A word or two about TheBlueBanana, also known as Noobastic:

This young, troubled child's been plaguing (and banned from) many, many forum & game servers over the years. It is strongly advised not to give this individual any attention, as he strives and feeds on every bit of it.

He is notorious for being a chronic liar, and admitted to popping numerous pills prescribed by his family shrink for his messed up mental state of being. Just to get an idea of who you're dealing with here, this kid posted and blogged about his parents passing away, umm, except as it turned out, they didn't die at all.


Obviously none of this has much to do with Punkbuster; same as his PB issues are apparently not caused by PB at all either, but rather by his wall glitching or whatever he's been caught doing when the admin kicked him, again. I mean, just one quick look at his stats tells you that with less than 90 hours played, he's already managed to be kicked out over one hundred (100) times.

Anyhow, moral of the story and this post? Take ANYTHING this kid says with a grain of salt - and I mean a BIG, ENORMOUSLY HUGE grain of salt.

Cheers,

He has been trolling around so his comments shouldn't be taken seriously especially on the PnN. Read the whole thread. His troll activities have been exposed.

You do know this has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread, right? Shall I out my trusty magic hat and bombard you with accusations, whether true or false, in attempt to disqualify you from debate?

Also - you don't know what trolling is. Go away.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: piasabird
Islamofascists want to cut your head off or kill you because you are not a muslim.

Kind of like a left wing nut job that can not tolerate any one that does not fit their agenda.

My way or the highway; Highway to Hell that is.

This is a left only issue? Or a "muslim" issue?

Delusional.


Islamofascists do not exist.. it is a way to group a bunch of people together as "enemies" to hate.. by the people who pretty much hate everyone that is different.

The U.S. supports dictators that keep their people poor... and then get mad when these poor people blame the U.S. and threaten action.... It is such a complicated issue! The U.S. is the poor victim... of "islamofascists" that WE create with our actions.

It's a Qoran issue nitwit. No matter how many times this issue is side-skirted, or trivialized, the fact remains the Islam crazies are STRICT int heir following of the teachings of Mohammed: convert or die.

If we are going to focus on the crazy things that religious books tell us, we could pick apart every religion out there... nitwit...

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They're the new Boogeyman, an alleged threat to the way we live (like they even compare to the Soviets , the Japanese or the Nazis when it comes to a real threat)

Yeah, they're no threat at all. I propose coffee, tea, donuts, and kisses on the cheek!

You might not think they are a threat but I do, just not on the same level as the Soviets, the Nazis or the Japanese were like you and the other fear mongers like Bush , his Handlers and the assholes who support them. In fact I'm not so sure Bushes handlers believe they are on the same level, they just say they are so they can frighten Americans into giving up their liberties and to let this Administration get away with the shit they have been.

Nazi's were an obvious and open threat. We know who, where, and what they were. Islamic radicals, even if they are financed by states, do not technically belong to any territory or country (you can exactly call a 60 million populous country terrorist...)

These people who emigrate from these countries bring with the the radical and backward ideologies that were given to them at birth. Which brings me to my final response: They. cannot. assimilate. Muslims have a birth rate of 4 children per family, while Europeans don't even have 1. People get all huffy and puffy over facts such as these, but realistically speaking, radicals are in a sense "taking over." They're twisting laws to suit their needs, kicking out naysayers, and removing anything and everything that threatens their religion.


Now, don't get me wrong - secular muslims exist, sure...but more the most part, you're sympathies for fleeing Iraqis will not last when intellectually capable people start to not only consume civil services, but remove basic freedoms to clear the way for Allah.

Take a gander at the Netherlands, Switzerland, and Holland. Fifty years from now they are going to be Egypt.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: piasabird
Islamofascists want to cut your head off or kill you because you are not a muslim.

Kind of like a left wing nut job that can not tolerate any one that does not fit their agenda.

My way or the highway; Highway to Hell that is.

This is a left only issue? Or a "muslim" issue?

Delusional.


Islamofascists do not exist.. it is a way to group a bunch of people together as "enemies" to hate.. by the people who pretty much hate everyone that is different.

The U.S. supports dictators that keep their people poor... and then get mad when these poor people blame the U.S. and threaten action.... It is such a complicated issue! The U.S. is the poor victim... of "islamofascists" that WE create with our actions.

It's a Qoran issue nitwit. No matter how many times this issue is side-skirted, or trivialized, the fact remains the Islam crazies are STRICT int heir following of the teachings of Mohammed: convert or die.

If we are going to focus on the crazy things that religious books tell us, we could pick apart every religion out there... nitwit...

*shrug* lets do that. Dont forget to be relevant though...lets focus on terrible acts of violence that are actually carrried out by it's readers shall we?

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

You do know this has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread, right? Shall I out my trusty magic hat and bombard you with accusations, whether true or false, in attempt to disqualify you from debate?

Also - you don't know what trolling is. Go away.

One Dave is enough in here

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
It's a Qoran issue nitwit. No matter how many times this issue is side-skirted, or trivialized, the fact remains the Islam crazies are STRICT int heir following of the teachings of Mohammed: convert or die.

Nope.


And Noobtastic[ you'll fit perfectly in history in line with all the other wackos who advocate the end of the world and "our" culture because of migration patterns. Other than that I don't have anything to say to you - eits did a magnificant job of explaining - and here it is again (incase you forgot it already)

uh... newsflash: you don't know ANYTHING about their culture. how can you sit there and tell ME what their culture is? how are YOU going to tell ME what the people of the middle east believe? you don't know shit from apple butter.

as for my debating skills? what's the point?magomago: exactly my thoughts... i've seen your ridiculous nest of posts with aimster and, even though you obviously DON'T know your shit, you dig your heels in and don't budge. you're resistant to knowledge and base opinions solely on the opinions of others, whether they be on foxnews or your uneducated family. i can't exactly blame you for it... especially at your young age, but the least you could do is quit making absurd blanket statements when you honestly have absolutely NO FUCKING idea what you're talking about.

if you've never been in the middle east or lived among them or have family in the middle east or taken a series of middle eastern studies courses (which you haven't done yet because those are offered in college), it's hard for you to actually know what the hell you're talking about. you need to realize that and start wondering, "gee, i really don't know all that much about this... maybe i should start doing some unbiased research," that is of course if you actually care to not be made a fool when you're talking to someone who knows when you're full of shit.

Anyways I'm kinda busy. I have a midterm later today, and I'm behind on my jihadi islamototalitarianism/facist/mongolian efforts to cull the blood of as many Christians as possible. The rate has been going up thanks to the fact I joined the Muslim Student Union, a secret orginization that makes Dubya's skull and bones look like toddlers at a preschool (they are part of the 10 most dangerous threats to AMERICA.... Ammmericaan FVCK YEAHAAH), but it isn't enough to fill in my quota. Besides, with a paltry 100:1 ratio of Dead Christians to mindless virgins...I want to make sure I sack enough of them that I get enough....becauseee DAMMNN i've been waiting a long time, so the more the merrier!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They're the new Boogeyman, an alleged threat to the way we live (like they even compare to the Soviets , the Japanese or the Nazis when it comes to a real threat)

Yeah, they're no threat at all. I propose coffee, tea, donuts, and kisses on the cheek!

You might not think they are a threat but I do, just not on the same level as the Soviets, the Nazis or the Japanese were like you and the other fear mongers like Bush , his Handlers and the assholes who support them. In fact I'm not so sure Bushes handlers believe they are on the same level, they just say they are so they can frighten Americans into giving up their liberties and to let this Administration get away with the shit they have been.

you're sympathies for fleeing Iraqis will not last when intellectually capable people start to not only consume civil services, but remove basic freedoms to clear the way for Allah.

First of all I have no sympathies for the fleeing Iraqis. Secondly I'm not worried about this ever happening to the U.S.

 

[Noobtastic]

First of all I have no sympathies for the fleeing Iraqis. Secondly I'm not worried about this ever happening to the U.S.

How could you not sympathize for fleeing Iraqis?


Your faith in the United States is just that, faith .

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

First of all I have no sympathies for the fleeing Iraqis. Secondly I'm not worried about this ever happening to the U.S.

How could you not sympathize for fleeing Iraqis?

I care for them about as much as they care for us which is not very much

Your faith in the United States is just that, faith .

Well if you are an example of our future my faith will be sorely tested.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
you're sympathies for fleeing Iraqis will not last when intellectually capable people start to not only consume civil services, but remove basic freedoms to clear the way for Allah.

First of all I have no sympathies for the fleeing Iraqis. Secondly I'm not worried about this ever happening to the U.S.

Islamberg New York, the separatist militant camp is a beginning, not an end. Funny thing about ideologies, they can spread like wildfire ? faster now that the internet has made the world a smaller place.

We are not in trouble of being converted in the foreseeable future, this is true, but a mere 19 men struck us worse than previous history. Even if they became ONLY 1% of our population that is still a 3 million potential terrorists. More than enough potential to carry out further acts of war ? especially with foreign financing and weapons smuggling.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
you're sympathies for fleeing Iraqis will not last when intellectually capable people start to not only consume civil services, but remove basic freedoms to clear the way for Allah.

First of all I have no sympathies for the fleeing Iraqis. Secondly I'm not worried about this ever happening to the U.S.

Islamberg New York, the separatist militant camp is a beginning, not an end. Funny thing about ideologies, they can spread like wildfire ? faster now that the internet has made the world a smaller place.

We are not in trouble of being converted in the foreseeable future, this is true, but a mere 19 men struck us worse than previous history. Even if they became ONLY 1% of our population that is still a 3 million potential terrorists. More than enough potential to carry out further acts of war ? especially with foreign financing and weapons smuggling.

I think the real danger lies in Europe, not the United States. The U.S is too consumed by bigotry and intolerance to allow a thriving secluded muslim community within the state. Europe is royally f**ked though.

My swedish nanny left because she could no longer work without being harassed by the newly established muslim community (which will become the majority in twenty years. Yay, they may beat their women, but they sure do screw a lot).

She used to be work in architecture or something.

Anyways, let freedom ring.

:Q

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
you're sympathies for fleeing Iraqis will not last when intellectually capable people start to not only consume civil services, but remove basic freedoms to clear the way for Allah.

First of all I have no sympathies for the fleeing Iraqis. Secondly I'm not worried about this ever happening to the U.S.

Islamberg New York, the separatist militant camp is a beginning, not an end. Funny thing about ideologies, they can spread like wildfire ? faster now that the internet has made the world a smaller place.

We are not in trouble of being converted in the foreseeable future, this is true, but a mere 19 men struck us worse than previous history. Even if they became ONLY 1% of our population that is still a 3 million potential terrorists. More than enough potential to carry out further acts of war ? especially with foreign financing and weapons smuggling.

I think the real danger lies in Europe, not the United States. The U.S is too consumed by bigotry and intolerance to allow a thriving secluded muslim community within the state. Europe is royally f**ked though.

My swedish nanny left because she could no longer work without being harassed by the newly established muslim community (which will become the majority in twenty years. Yay, they may beat their women, but they sure do screw a lot).

She used to be work in architecture or something.

Anyways, let freedom ring.

:Q

:thumbsup:

Freedom != free for all.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Yay, they may beat their women, but they sure do screw a lot

:laugh:

Anyways, let freedom ring. :Q

:thumbsup:

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

I think the real danger lies in Europe, not the United States. The U.S is too consumed by bigotry and intolerance to allow a thriving secluded muslim community within the state. Europe is royally f**ked though.

My swedish nanny left because she could no longer work without being harassed by the newly established muslim community (which will become the majority in twenty years. Yay, they may beat their women, but they sure do screw a lot).

She used to be work in architecture or something.

Anyways, let freedom ring.

:Q

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweeden#Demographics

total population of Sweden was estimated to be 9,131,425


Now let us look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden

Other Nordic Countries 277,100
Western Europe 106,400
Eastern Europe 326,100
Former Soviet Union 37,800
Middle East 223,700
Rest of Asia 91,700
Sub-Saharan Africa 51,000
North America 26,500
South America 55,500
Oceania 3,500
Total Foreign-Born 1,199,300


Now your Beef is with Muslims. So for the sake of a poor argument, let us assume ALL immigranats from the Middle East Are Muslims, and 50% of Sub Saharan Africans are (just for sicks). the others, for argument, are not.

that is approximately 250,000 "foreign born" Muslims currently there.

You are telling me that in 20 years 250,000 thousand are going to displace a population of approximately 8,000,000 native SWEEDS. We aren't even considering "other" that form the large bulk of the extra 1.1 million foreigners...
remember you are telling me they will be the MAJORITY ie: total population divided by 2[/i].

Would you like more koolaid please?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
you're sympathies for fleeing Iraqis will not last when intellectually capable people start to not only consume civil services, but remove basic freedoms to clear the way for Allah.

First of all I have no sympathies for the fleeing Iraqis. Secondly I'm not worried about this ever happening to the U.S.

Islamberg New York, the separatist militant camp is a beginning, not an end. Funny thing about ideologies, they can spread like wildfire ? faster now that the internet has made the world a smaller place.

We are not in trouble of being converted in the foreseeable future, this is true, but a mere 19 men struck us worse than previous history. Even if they became ONLY 1% of our population that is still a 3 million potential terrorists. More than enough potential to carry out further acts of war ? especially with foreign financing and weapons smuggling.

I think the real danger lies in Europe, not the United States. The U.S is too consumed by bigotry and intolerance to allow a thriving secluded muslim community within the state. Europe is royally f**ked though.

Bigotry and intolerance? You hold us with such high regard, but to consider us secure is a misnomer. The ?war on terror? was started by box cutters, further acts of war against us would be just as easy.

I guess, if we want to consider Europe already dead and dying, then yeah we?re not so bad off, but we?re far from secure.

 

[Noobtastic]

Now your Beef is with Muslims. So for the sake of a poor argument, let us assume ALL immigranats from the Middle East Are Muslims, and 50% of Sub Saharan Africans are (just for sicks). the others, for argument, are not.

Why?

that is approximately 250,000 "foreign born" Muslims currently there.

Ok.

You are telling me that in 20 years 250,000 thousand are going to displace a population of approximately 8,000,000 native SWEEDS.

Uh, yeah. Muslims pro-create 4 children to a single family, while most European countries cannot replenish their own population.

We aren't even considering "other" that form the large bulk of the extra 1.1 million foreigners...

I'm not debating statistics. I don't see how this has anything to do with the facts mentioned above.

My points:

A) Muslim immigrants, for the most part, have proved incapable of assimilating in European countries

B) Cities have been forced to submit to prehistoric teachings and culture because a very small minority feels their God is being discriminated by unholy things like naked women, other religions, movies, civil rights, etc.

C) Don't believe me? Take a gander at the Netherlands, Switzerland, and Holland.

D) Your religion of peace is being demonstrated all over the world. check out
thereligionofpeace.com for statistics. They provide information of the daily bombings and attacks that occur in unimportant locations by Islamic Jihad.

 

[Noobtastic]

Bigotry and intolerance? You hold us with such high regard, but to consider us secure is a misnomer.[/ The ?war on terror? was started by box cutters, further acts of war against us would be just as easy.

I guess, if we want to consider Europe already dead and dying, then yeah we?re not so bad off, but we?re far from secure.