Question What ever happened to the AMD Athlon X4 880K?

[ItsFlybye]

I have an FM2+ board I was thinking of upgrading the CPU. Discovered the 880k to be the best it can support. Then I realized...it is nowhere to be found.

Did it just never hit the market in mass numbers? Manufacturing issues?

 

[ao_ika_red]

It's just 860k refresh and produced in much less quantity than earlier Kaveri counterparts. Any used 860k can be OC'ed to default 880k with no problem except power consumption.

 

[scannall]

I have an FM2+ board I was thinking of upgrading the CPU. Discovered the 880k to be the best it can support. Then I realized...it is nowhere to be found.

Did it just never hit the market in mass numbers? Manufacturing issues?

There are a few out there. Spotted 1 on Amazon. But you're right, pretty scarce. The 870 seems a lot more available.

 

[ItsFlybye]

And the 860 and 870 are not that far off in speed. Ok thx.

 

[ao_ika_red]

And the 860 and 870 are not that far off in speed. Ok thx.

What's the main purpose of the build?

 

[ItsFlybye]

What's the main purpose of the build?

It’s already built. Small Freenas ITX box for 2 people. No videos or music streaming. Currently has a 2 core AMD A6-6420k. On idle it hovers around 0-2% load. Sending a file to it spikes to about 50% since its converting to ZFS. Receiving is only about 15%. But I’ll go days without using it. Upgrading the cpu to a 4 core was always a on the back of my mind kinda thing.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

It apparently just went naturally EOL. So sourcing is depending on someone having it in stock.

IF your board supports it, I'd try finding an Athlon 845. That's an Excavator-based CPU for the FM2+ platform, which is the best you're going to find for it. On the off chance you have an A68-based board with support, there is the A8-7680 available. That is a full Carrizo APU for FM2+. Best you can get on that platform, actually. I can easily get them where I am, but YMMV of course.

 

[ao_ika_red]

Small Freenas ITX box for 2 people. No videos or music streaming.

IF your board supports it, I'd try finding an Athlon 845. That's an Excavator-based CPU for the FM2+ platform, which is the best you're going to find for it. On the off chance you have an A68-based board with support, there is the A8-7680 available. That is a full Carrizo APU for FM2+. Best you can get on that platform, actually. I can easily get them where I am, but YMMV of course.

Ditto. If your board support A8-7680, get this one instead of any Athlon. But if it's quite pricey (it's in very limited supply) you can look for used Athlon 845 combined with GT730 or GT1030.

 

[chrisjames61]

I have an FM2+ board I was thinking of upgrading the CPU. Discovered the 880k to be the best it can support. Then I realized...it is nowhere to be found.

Did it just never hit the market in mass numbers? Manufacturing issues?

I have one but never even took it out of the package. It did come with the earlier Wraith style cooler minus the shroud. The 870K and 880K differ from the 860K only in that they are soldered. An 860K which I also have a few of will clock just about as high.

 

[chrisjames61]

It apparently just went naturally EOL. So sourcing is depending on someone having it in stock.

IF your board supports it, I'd try finding an Athlon 845. That's an Excavator-based CPU for the FM2+ platform, which is the best you're going to find for it. On the off chance you have an A68-based board with support, there is the A8-7680 available. That is a full Carrizo APU for FM2+. Best you can get on that platform, actually. I can easily get them where I am, but YMMV of course.

I also have an Athlon 845. They are really weak cpu's even though they are Excavator based. Low clock speed, locked multiplier and a sparse L2 cache. So in essence an 860K will clobber it.

 

[chrisjames61]

The Carrizo APU's are also really weak. I have an A12-9800 while classified as a Bristol Ridge apu is actually the same as a Carrizo apu with 20% more performance supposedly. I would take a A10-7850 over a Bristol Ridge or a Carrizo APU.

 

[chrisjames61]

It apparently just went naturally EOL. So sourcing is depending on someone having it in stock.

IF your board supports it, I'd try finding an Athlon 845. That's an Excavator-based CPU for the FM2+ platform, which is the best you're going to find for it. On the off chance you have an A68-based board with support, there is the A8-7680 available. That is a full Carrizo APU for FM2+. Best you can get on that platform, actually. I can easily get them where I am, but YMMV of course.

A8-7680's aren't available anywhere..........

 

[Thunder 57]

...I would take a A10-7850 over a Bristol Ridge or a Carrizo APU.

Not sure that's a great comparison. Different sockets. Steamroller vs Excavator. I don't see how you would take FM2 / A10-7850 over AM4 / A12-9800. Excavator increased the L1D cache and that helped a lot.

 

[ao_ika_red]

They are really weak cpu's even though they are Excavator based. Low clock speed, locked multiplier and a sparse L2 cache. So in essence an 860K will clobber it.

If it's not gaming, it's more than enough. It also consumes less power than 860k while perform about the same in stock condition. I once owned 860k but I sidegraded to 845 because of that very reason.

AMD Carrizo Part 2: A Generational Deep Dive into the Athlon X4 845 at $70

www.anandtech.com

 

[ItsFlybye]

My CPU support list. My god I never realized how many models AMD goes through.

The A8-7680 is not there, but the 845 is.

ASRock > FM2A88X-ITX+

A-Style : ASRock Cloud, HDMI-In; Supports Socket FM2+ 95W / FM2 100W processors; Premium Gold Capacitor design; Supports Dual Channel DDR3 2400+(OC); 1 PCIe 3.0 x16, 1 Half/Full (mSATA) mini-PCIe; Supports AMD Dual Graphics; Integrated AMD Radeon™ R7/R5 Series Graphics in A-series APU; Graphics...

www.asrock.com

 

[Thunder 57]

My CPU support list. My god I never realized how many models AMD goes through.

The A8-7680 is not there, but the 845 is.

ASRock > FM2A88X-ITX+

A-Style : ASRock Cloud, HDMI-In; Supports Socket FM2+ 95W / FM2 100W processors; Premium Gold Capacitor design; Supports Dual Channel DDR3 2400+(OC); 1 PCIe 3.0 x16, 1 Half/Full (mSATA) mini-PCIe; Supports AMD Dual Graphics; Integrated AMD Radeon™ R7/R5 Series Graphics in A-series APU; Graphics...

www.asrock.com

Not sure I'd recommend spending money on a dead platform, unless you can get a used on for cheap. I understand that depends on your situation though.

 

[ao_ika_red]

My CPU support list. My god I never realized how many models AMD goes through.

The A8-7680 is not there, but the 845 is.

ASRock > FM2A88X-ITX+

A-Style : ASRock Cloud, HDMI-In; Supports Socket FM2+ 95W / FM2 100W processors; Premium Gold Capacitor design; Supports Dual Channel DDR3 2400+(OC); 1 PCIe 3.0 x16, 1 Half/Full (mSATA) mini-PCIe; Supports AMD Dual Graphics; Integrated AMD Radeon™ R7/R5 Series Graphics in A-series APU; Graphics...

www.asrock.com

Yeah, it's sad that top tier board can't run the latest APU. AMD only allowed A68H boards to use newer Carrizo APU. Be aware that by using Athlon CPU, you need discrete graphic card.

 

[ItsFlybye]

Not sure I'd recommend spending money on a dead platform, unless you can get a used on for cheap. I understand that depends on your situation though.

Oh I was so thinking about this last night. Then I went to Newegg and configured a quick setup. Eh I was already $250+ in with a new mb, cpu, ram (since I'd have to get ddr4) and an M2 (since I have an msata). I mean I can get a quad core for the FM2+ for $50 or less off ebay. Wouldn't be the first time I got a used ebay CPU from a reputable seller. My last used CPU I bought has been in my gaming rig for 7 years (3770k).

Yeah, it's sad that top tier board can't run the latest APU. AMD only allowed A68H boards to use newer Carrizo APU. Be aware that by using Athlon CPU, you need discrete graphic card.

Noted! ty. I need integrated gpu since on my 1 pcie slot I may be using for 2 or 4 SSDs.

I don't remember why I was fixated on the 880k. Reading through the different family CPUs, I think the best one I can get for this board is the AMD Godavari Pro A10-8750b Fm2+ AD875BYBI44JC unless there is a hidden gem of a quad core hidden in that list somewhere. Is it me or is it just stupid how many CPUs AMD comes out with in such a little amount of time?

 

[Insert_Nickname]

A8-7680's aren't available anywhere..........

That might well be the situation where you are. There are a few retailers here in Denmark who'll source it, but only by specific order. Since it's a really, I mean really, niche chip, no one want to get caught with stock they can't sell.

Is it me or is it just stupid how many CPUs AMD comes out with in such a little amount of time?

They had to dump all those Kaveri/Godavari / Carrizo chips -somewhere-. I suspect that's the reason for the plethora of models.

On the more serious note, the best you can do might be the 7860K. It's a 2M/4T Kaveri, with a frequency of 3.6/4.0GHz. But this one is only rated at 65W. It's probably the best compromise between CPU performance and power consumption, which still has integrated graphics.

 

[ao_ika_red]

if you can't find 7860k at reasonable price, you might also buy A8-7600 / A8-7650k / A10-7850k which are more commonly used at the time so their supply on second-hand market should be plenty. All options I listed above have same CPU internal with 860k, the only diffence is their GPU configuration. All "A8" parts are only have 384 SP, when "A10" parts have 512 SP. This is my cheat sheet.

 

[ItsFlybye]

So I was wrong. The 7860k IS on the list. I had searched for 7860 but its actual model number of AD786KYBI44JC is what is on the list.

And now Im noticing some of the CPUs on the list are unlocked and some are not.

So no wonder you guys like the 7860. Its unlocked. It ebays for around $90 vs the locked versions of almost the same performance CPUs which ebay around $50. Guess I just have to decide if 2 $20 bills is worth it. 😊

 

[Markfw]

If it was me, I would look into an inexpensive Ryzen motherboard, like a B450, and the cheapest Ryzen you can get. The MSI tomahawk max is favored here. $75. And a 1600 is $100. Of course you need some ddr4. Out of the price range ?

 

[ItsFlybye]

If it was me, I would look into an inexpensive Ryzen motherboard, like a B450, and the cheapest Ryzen you can get. The MSI tomahawk max is favored here. $75. And a 1600 is $100. Of course you need some ddr4. Out of the price range ?

Just money Id rather not have to spend for a box that just holds my files. We all know that domino effect lol. I’d need ddr4 since I have ddr3. I’d want an m2 ssd since I have an msata ssd. I’d need a mini ITX mb for the mini ITX case, and the cheapest one I see on the egg is an ASRock for $100.

 

[Markfw]

Just money Id rather not have to spend for a box that just holds my files. We all know that domino effect lol. I’d need ddr4 since I have ddr3. I’d want an m2 ssd since I have an msata ssd. I’d need a mini ITX mb for the mini ITX case, and the cheapest one I see on the egg is an ASRock for $100.

Yup, just a thought....

 

[ao_ika_red]

It ebays for around $90 vs the locked versions of almost the same performance CPUs which ebay around $50. Guess I just have to decide if 2 $20 bills is worth it. 😊

Wait, is there a locked version? Because I don't remember any non-K part of 7860.