what does it all mean

[iamWolverine]

Now the infamous Iraqi regime has begin to crumble, and the pro-war pundits have begun to celebrate, if only in their minds, feeling that all the actions taken are now justified, and many anti-war protestors are confused about what this all means, confused because they got sucked into the war dilemma, confused about what to say to those who justify the war because the regime has fallen. In truth though, despite the hopes by some that the U.S. would somehow fail, and the hopes by many millions more that the U.S. would just stop, there was truly little doubt that the U.S. could win, especially considering the awesome and overwhelming force and weaponry the U.S. has, especially as compared to Iraq. So it's not surprising that the regime has fallen, and no anti-war protestor was reasonably for the regime, no the anti-war protestors were against the method chosen, the overwhleming power that the U.S. has is not only in it's ground weapons technology, but also its air guided technology, and all of the weapons being used in combination with the method have put the millions of civilians in Iraq at greater risk. While there may be reports of approximately one thousand civilian deaths so far, and those in favor of the war thinking that that is a small price to pay (one which they in no way had to pay themselves, and therefore do not truly have a right in claiming), but what they don't realise is that that number is going to keep going up, even after the regime is gone. That number is going to go up because of the inadequately supplied hospitals, which are inadequately supplied because of U.S. sanctions--no not U.N. but U.S., if it isn't obvious now that the U.S. does what it wants within the U.S. and strong arms its way to get what it wants outside of the U.N., then you are choosing to hear no evil see no evil. And of course hospitals aren't the only civilian infrastructure that were affected by sanctions . . . there is also the matter of water, which has been shut off by U.S. forces, and has remained for the most part dispicably unsanitary again because of sanctions. I'm sure someone will want to jump up and say but Saddam is the one that deprived the people of hospital supplies, Saddam is the one that deprived the people of clean water, Saddam is the one to blame for all the problems in Iraq, and the U.S., they're angels, saviors, liberators, you cannot damage their image, you cannot smear their image with the blood of Iraqis, even though its on the U.S.'s hands. Yes Saddam was a problem, but to say that the U.S. was never a problem, and is not potentially a problem now would be as absurd as trying to claim that Saddam was never a problem. Those in favor of the war love to ask why anti-war protestors weren't protesting against Saddam when he gassed the Kurds, or did this or that--but when the question is turned around, as to why the U.S. government should ever have supported a man that was willing to do this before and after he did this, why they fed his hunger for weapons and control, there is no way to justify it, and there is no way to justify the actions of this war--I am not speaking of the overthrowing of a regime, but the destruction of a country, and the planned "reconstruction". At the Museum of Tolerance they claim that "if you say a lie enough times people will believe it", and that is exactly what this administration has been all about, from the forged documents submitted as evidence to the U.N., to claims of a great threat to American security in Iraq, to claims that they care for the Iraqi people, all the while killing many of them in the process. This administration is going to keep feeding lies, and many will keep taking them very willingly and complacently, thinking that if they say the actions were justified then it must be so. The looting in Iraq is not surprising, these people have been put under such an incredible strain stuck on one side by the strong handed dictatorship they lived under and on the other by another strong armed government, both of which cared very little for the people trapped and suffering in the middle, like a pressure cooker and now there is a release from one side, but the other is going to keep pushing on them . . . I truly hope that there is some sincerity in the president's words, that the Iraqi people will truly have a government of their own, which cares for its people more than it does for deals with foreign powers, and that they will be able to prosper as Iraqis, with whichever influences and culture they choose to have, but this is a difficult dream, it's a dream that the U.S. has not fully attained for itself, and from looking at the history and track record of U.S. influence abroad I am filled with a sombering doubt at what is to come, and what the Iraqi people face with the greedy hands of world governments trying to reach out an hide what will become their looting of Iraq.

 

[Bulk Beef]

Wow. I sifted that through my "unoriginal thought" filter, and this is what was left:And try using paragraphs next time.

 

[paulj2]

And your solution was to leave Saddam in power?

The Iraqi people who are celebrating and thanking Bush don't think the solution was to leave Saddam in power. Aren't you surprised that even people in Baghdad are celebrating. You would think Saddam would take care of those close to him. We all knew he disliked the Kurds and the Shiites, but even the people in his own capitol disliked him.

Perhaps you support the nailing of tongues to boards. Or the mutilation of genitals with electric meat knives. I could go on but it gets more disgusting.

Of course you don't support this. I hope. But your so called peace actions did.

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: iamWolverine
In truth though, despite the hopes by some that the U.S. would somehow fail, and the hopes by many millions more that the U.S. would just stop, there was truly little doubt that the U.S. could win, especially considering the awesome and overwhelming force and weaponry the U.S. has, especially as compared to Iraq.

It still amazes me to see this stuff after all the armchair generals' handwringing 2 weeks ago. Some people really have no shame.

 

[AAjax]

Well Hakam,
That was quite interesting, might I ask are you a US citizen? Just currious cause you used the term "they" allot when reffering to the US but it would seem by your profile you live in the US. If you are the term is "we" I too do not agree with all that has happened or everything the government dose in my name, however I am part of this country and try to take action by voting my mind and working in my community to the ends that my heart directs me.

 

[Looney]

You ever thought of using paragraphs?

 

[styrafoam]

Ahhh, US sanctions. And the water, how did we shut the water off before we arrived? Where have you been? Everyone has been missing your news conferences for the last few days. It would be interesting to hear your answers on things now with no thugs to bully/kill reporters.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic
You ever thought of using paragraphs?

And perhaps breaking up larger sentences into smaller ones..

 

[iamWolverine]

Originally posted by: AAjax
Well Hakam,
That was quite interesting, might I ask are you a US citizen? Just currious cause you used the term "they" allot when reffering to the US but it would seem by your profile you live in the US. If you are the term is "we" I too do not agree with all that has happened or everything the government dose in my name, however I am part of this country and try to take action by voting my mind and working in my community to the ends that my heart directs me.

Yes I am a citizen, and you are right, the term is we, I apologize for so consistently using they, but while I too vote and take an active role in my community, I do not feel represented by this administration nor the corporations behind it which have more power and money to lobby for their interests than I do and therefore the actions taken by this government are not in my name, especially when the government refuses to represent me, just as I'm sure Iraqis do not feel that the actions of Saddam were done in their name or represented them as a people.