What do you think of microsoftws "live one care"

[alanwest09872]

What do you guys think of Windows "Liveonecare". I only ask because it seems to be to good to be true. it scans virus maleware does registry scan disk deframention scans for open ports all for free from microsoft. it also scans the registry also.

How good is there virus scan anyways is it on par with avg.

 

[corkyg]

I personally avoid most all Microsoft "Live" anything. I prefer to be in control of my own system. Nothing really wrong with Microsoft's AV software (basically MSE), but I don't trust anything on line that much.

 

[gsaldivar]

I personally avoid most all Microsoft "Live" anything.

This.

 

[stlcardinals]

For starters, Live OneCare has been discontinued. If you are looking for a security product, get Microsoft Security Essentials.

I think there is a lot of confusion on Microsoft's Live line of products. You can look at the Live line as being the products that Microsoft pulled out of Windows to make the Anti-Trust governments happy.

Live Essentials has some very good products in it. For anybody not trying them out because they have the word "Live" in them, you should at least try them out.

 

[Slugbait]

You can look at the Live line as being the products that Microsoft pulled out of Windows to make the Anti-Trust governments happy.

That is incorrect. MS never got into trouble for bundling Movie Maker in ME, XP and Vista, after which the project was essentially mothballed...WL Movie Maker is a different code base, with different features. They also didn't get into trouble with Outlook Express (Win98 thru XP) or its successor, Windows Mail (Vista). Photo Gallery shipped with Vista, and again, no problemo.

As far as MSN/WL Messenger, Writer, Family Safety and Toolbar, none of those products have ever shipped pre-installed on any operating system.

Perhaps you are thinking of Windows Messenger. That product utilized the code base of MSN Messenger, but used different GUIDs and was targeted primarily at the corporate customer (supported SIP, etc). The beef was that it was configured to run on first boot, prompting customers to create an account and sign into Passport (with Passport being the primary issue, not the IM client). The "anti-trust governments" resolved the issue with MS: XP's service pack 1 would eliminate auto-launch of the client (because most people didn't know they could open the app, go into Options, and uncheck "Run when Windows starts"). Windows Messenger went into sustained engineering mode soon after v5.0 was released back in 2004.

Live Essentials has some very good products in it. For anybody not trying them out because they have the word "Live" in them, you should at least try them out.

Mail and Writer are very good.

 

[JEDIYoda]

For starters, Live OneCare has been discontinued. If you are looking for a security product, get Microsoft Security Essentials.

I think there is a lot of confusion on Microsoft's Live line of products. You can look at the Live line as being the products that Microsoft pulled out of Windows to make the Anti-Trust governments happy.

Live Essentials has some very good products in it. For anybody not trying them out because they have the word "Live" in them, you should at least try them out.

actually if you type Live care in your search engine it will take you to this site -- http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/default.htm which essentially is still live care...

 

[REC]

actually if you type Live care in your search engine it will take you to this site -- http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/default.htm which essentially is still live care...

One click away from that page,

Windows Live OneCare is no longer available for sale.

Existing subscribers will continue to be supported throughout the term of their subscriptions. Existing subscribers can reinstall by following the steps to download a trial, and can still add a PC to their existing OneCare circle.

It has been discontinued but is still supported, for the time being. It has been replaced by Microsoft Security Essentials which is available for free as a direct download.

To the OP: Here's a pretty decent review of MSE.

It's alright. Nice and lightweight, although the definitions are spotty in some areas.

 

[alanwest09872]

I run security essentials avg spybot and liveonecare to make sure I am virus and spyware free. I try to do this at least once a day if I did downloading that day or major internet surfing

 

[Slugbait]

I run security essentials avg spybot and liveonecare to make sure I am virus and spyware free.

Pick one anti-virus program and uninstall the rest. Anti-virus programs embed themselves deep within the OS, and will conflict with each other. OneCare is almost EOL, so that's easy to decide on, and while there are still some people who like AVG, MSE is actually quite good (heck, this is MS' third or fourth foray into anti-virus).

Anti-malware programs...no problem, stock up. Beyond Spybot and the one that comes with MSE, I'd suggest SUPERAntiSpyware as well.

 

[atreader]

On my old laptop I had AntiVir and ZoneAlarm installed. Only ZoneAlarm (free firewall part only) was running all the time, with outgoing connection Alerts on. I rarely needed to run the anti-virus (antivir), maybe once every 2-3 months. Had no problems.

Bought new laptop it came with OneLiveClutter installed. Uninstalled it and been using Windows Firewall, Windows Update and Windows Defender only. What I should have done is to clean-install the system right after I bought it.

 

[Slugbait]

What I should have done is to clean-install the system right after I bought it.

Fortunately, you didn't.

First issue is that you would lose your Windows license: the image installed on your laptop is tied to both the vendor and your mobo (more specifically, your MAC address), so you would have to purchase another copy of Windows just to do a clean install...and kiss the other license goodbye. As an experiment, take a Dell computer and install a retail copy of the same version of Windows...when prompted for the product key, enter the key stamped into the sticker on the side of the case....you'll then notice the Windows installer specifies that the key is invalid.

Second issue is that many laptops have proprietary devices that require proprietary drivers. For example, notice how OEMs charge you for an XP downgrade disc if you don't like Vista (or Win7)? That's because they need to write drivers, test them, and create restore discs (they don't just send you an OEM copy of Windows). If you used a standard retail disc to install Windows, you're on your own for finding drivers...many drivers for specific devices do not have drivers available for download, since the OEM has had no need to release updated drivers, therefore you're already (supposedly) using the L&G and there is no need to make the drivers available.

And once you have mucked up your machine enough, you can drop in the restore disc the OEM supplied you with, and revert the machine back to Day One condition in about 15 minutes.

No, what you should have done was to install Decrapifier right after you bought it.

 

[gsaldivar]

you would lose your Windows license: the image installed on your laptop is tied to both the vendor and your mobo (more specifically, your MAC address), so you would have to purchase another copy of Windows just to do a clean install...and kiss the other license goodbye.

That's not necessarily true. Many vendors such as Dell provide OEM Windows install discs that will recognize the Dell BIOS and never even ask for a license number. The license is tied to the machine and COA, worst case scenario you would have to just purchase a new install disc from the vendor, not a new Windows license. The restore image stored on the HD works similarly, it's just there for convenience, and so that the vendor can avoid sending you a free install disc (they prefer to charge you $15 for it)...

 

[Slugbait]

That's not necessarily true. Many vendors such as Dell provide OEM Windows install discs that will recognize the Dell BIOS and never even ask for a license number.

That is incorrect. Nearly all vendors such as Dell provide system restoration discs...thus, no product key required, since it's built into the disc and tied to that specific machine. Few of them have provided OEM Windows install discs since the floppies.

The license is tied to the machine and COA, worst case scenario you would have to just purchase a new install disc from the vendor, not a new Windows license. The restore image stored on the HD works similarly, it's just there for convenience, and so that the vendor can avoid sending you a free install disc (they prefer to charge you $15 for it)...

This is basically what I said above...except that you would be purchasing a system restoration disc, not an install disc. It won't be a "clean install", it will contain the same crapware that came with the Day One experience.

 

[atreader]

I think for "Clean Install" it will probably take me a day or two to finish it. For this I would head to notebookreview forum and look for my brand+model laptop sub-forum and hopefully find a "Clean Install' thread there.
I have read there that after clean install the machine feels noticeably faster and cleaner (desktop, task manager and Programs menu).

 

[johnny.dacu]

I personally avoid most all Microsoft "Live" anything. I prefer to be in control of my own system. Nothing really wrong with Microsoft's AV software (basically MSE), but I don't trust anything on line that much.

Same here... I even turn off automatic updates (i konw not healty), but beside windwos all other my software is non MS so i don't want browser update and others because i use other solutions.

 

[atreader]

Same here... I even turn off automatic updates (i konw not healty), but beside windwos all other my software is non MS so i don't want browser update and others because i use other solutions.

I have Windows Update on but its not set to automatic install. I manually check what updates available and usually un-select the ones that I don't need.