What do you think of Ashampoo Internet Accelerator?

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Virgorising

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Sorry phones were ringing.

I made new screenie to try to show the settings, etc. I have had this thing for a very long time. Do I even know if I have the accelerator on the right setting? NOT ENTIRELY. Do I understand how this thing works? NO.:| I am not uber techie as you are. I just focus on the needle.

I boot, I run test. If needle is not at the top I run the accelerator. Then, the needle goes to the top and I am happy. I am a cheap date.:sneaky:

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Another screenie:

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lxskllr

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I guess the point of my previous post is that's something you should only have to run once unless you change your connection type. As noted by others, there are settings that can be tweaked to optimize a certain aspect your connection, and we'll assume that program did something right the first time it was run. What is it doing now? It either screwed up last time, or it's giving you bogus information to justify its existence.
 

Virgorising

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What is it doing now? It either screwed up last time, or it's giving you bogus information to justify its existence.

OMG! Hahahahahah. "Bogus information!!!!"D:

OK, here is my take: without running the accelerator at the setting I have chosen.....it does nothing but maintain that for the duration of the time you are booted. When you shut system down, it has nothing to maintain the optimization. So when you boot again, then, U sometimes gotta run the accelerator so it can optimize and the needle goes to the top.

See, this always made sense to me. :'(

I think I have finally lost what little there was left of my mind.():):|
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I got worried re hijacking this thread....but then, I thought, well maybe all these apps work the same. The OP was about to get a different one, but it must be similar.

So I guess, this is about are all these app, the whole genre.... snake oil?
 
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lxskllr

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It's (presumably)just changing Windows settings. It should persist between reboots.
 

Virgorising

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I guess the point of my previous post is that's something you should only have to run once unless you change your connection type. As noted by others, there are settings that can be tweaked to optimize a certain aspect your connection, and we'll assume that program did something right the first time it was run. What is it doing now? It either screwed up last time, or it's giving you bogus information to justify its existence.

It's (presumably)just changing Windows settings. It should persist between reboots.

But it does nothing ACTIVE on boot/between boots by itself. I only start it with Windows cause I use it every day and I like the icon to be right there in the taskbar....not cause it does something active on boot by itself.

I just made yet another screenie.....cause I think I used the wizard way back to determine my best optimization mode.

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lxskllr

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But it does nothing ACTIVE on boot/between boots by itself.

It doesn't actively do anything at all. You don't even have to use it. All the settings are modifiable through Window's interface. All it provides is a friendly interface for changing settings. Once those settings are changed, they should be changed forever. IOW, it's something you should only have to run once, and never again, unless you switch from cable to DSL, 56k, or something like that.
 

Virgorising

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It doesn't actively do anything at all. You don't even have to use it. All the settings are modifiable through Window's interface. All it provides is a friendly interface for changing settings. Once those settings are changed, they should be changed forever. IOW, it's something you should only have to run once, and never again, unless you switch from cable to DSL, 56k, or something like that.

OMG. CHANGED FOREVER!????:eek: Then how come when I boot and run speed test part, the needle don always go to the top??? And when I then run the accelerator it does?

I believe you are saying.....I need rehab.:\
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Edit: just delved and found this:

http://www.brighthub.com/computing/windows-platform/articles/58522.aspx
 
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Morbus

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Well, if the program that is supposedly optimizing stuff is the same program that shows you the tests, it's only natural it shows a difference!

Test your internet connection properly, which is: do it yourself!
 

Virgorising

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Well, if the program that is supposedly optimizing stuff is the same program that shows you the tests, it's only natural it shows a difference!

Test your internet connection properly, which is: do it yourself!

But is the difference not actual??????

Today, I ran the RCN online test for the first time. I think what I should do, is shut this system down. Power on, run an RCN test, then run my app's test, if needle don go to the top, use the accelerator, then run another RCN test.:'(
 

Virgorising

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OK.....startin to look like snake oil.

I did what I said I planned to: Shut the system down. Powered on. Ran RCN speed test---just copies the results cause I am tired of making screenies. Chose the download test, ran it:
[FONT=&quot]Max Download Speed: 30.65Mbps[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Max Upload Speed: 1.14Mbps[/FONT]


Then I opened my app, ran a test, needle did not go to the very top where it makes me happy:

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So then, I ran the optimizer, ran another test using my app, and, as usual, needle went to the top:
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THEN, I went back and ran another RCN test, and by God, the speeds were slightly slower:
[FONT=&quot]Max Download Speed: 30.52Mbps[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Max Upload Speed: 1.1Mbps[/FONT]
What does this mean?

What should I do? Ignore my app I am addicted to? Does all this prove my app is snake oil? All this time I have been played for a fool by a snake oil app? My needle moving happiness has been based on an illusion all this time?:eek:

When I run any of my FOUR REG DEFRAGGING apps to analyze the degree of reg fragging, and they tell me, however rarely, my reg could use defragging and by what percentage it will be faster, and I do that.....that ALSO makes me HAPPY.
 
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flexy

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Internet Accelerator...cheezus people...this is not 1996. Crap.

Besides...what is "optimized"? There are some tweaks which COULD "optimize" TCP windows size etc. (registry settings) to possibly get better ping times, like leatrix latency tweak....or if you were to optimize TCP window size (chunks of data which are transferred in one TCP packet) for speed (downloading)..it MAY have a negative effect on ping times. You don't get something for free.

Since any modern OS would normally auto-adjust TCP settings there is really no use for a 3rd party program to "optimize the internet"...that was only halfway helpful back in the days in such cases where for some reason TCP settings were not optimal...but this not an issue today anymore. (Correct me if I am wrong). Get rid of that junk/bloat.
 

Virgorising

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Internet Accelerator...cheezus people...this is not 1996. Crap.

Besides...what is "optimized"? There are some tweaks which COULD "optimize" TCP windows size etc. (registry settings) to possibly get better ping times, like leatrix latency tweak....or if you were to optimize TCP window size (chunks of data which are transferred in one TCP packet) for speed (downloading)..it MAY have a negative effect on ping times. You don't get something for free.

Since any modern OS would normally auto-adjust TCP settings there is really no use for a 3rd party program to "optimize the internet"...that was only halfway helpful back in the days in such cases where for some reason TCP settings were not optimal...but this not an issue today anymore. (Correct me if I am wrong). Get rid of that junk/bloat.

:'( I thought it was something wonderful and viable.:| I did not know W7 did that. Who would, given the NEEDLE MOVING PHENOMENON?

I don't trust MS in MANY things....and in most, that is justified.
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I did remove it from my stat menu.
 
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Fardringle

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As other people said, "the needle" moves inside the application's own test because they want you to think it is doing something useful. The fact is that IF it did something useful, that change would be permanent (until you specifically change it again). There is zero reason to run a real optimization every time you boot the computer.
 

Virgorising

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As other people said, "the needle" moves inside the application's own test because they want you to think it is doing something useful. The fact is that IF it did something useful, that change would be permanent (until you specifically change it again). There is zero reason to run a real optimization every time you boot the computer.

I am gettin this now.:'( And,the nature of addiction is wut it is.:sneaky: I thought this was a good addiction. But as it turns out....not so much.

But it's still sooo hard for me to believe anyone would write an app with this level of malfeasance, smoke and mirrors, ILLUSION....at its core.

Maybe I am a little naive.:\ But mainly not. Including things computer-related. I guess this was an exception.
 
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SilthDraeth

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I read this whole thread expecting someone to also mention that you can often get improved results on internet speedtests by just running them back to back.

Since you now cached what the speed test is downloading.
 

Morbus

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But is the difference not actual??????
Well, if the software doesn't work, isn't it natural that it will fake the results?

It's like me telling the bank I'm trustworthy, and showing a certificate signed by me. I'm a interested party.

then run my app's test
Forget that test. It's completely pointless.

Who would, given the NEEDLE MOVING PHENOMENON?
That software is faking the results, most likely.
 

Virgorising

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Well, if the software doesn't work, isn't it natural that it will fake the results? It's like me telling the bank I'm trustworthy, and showing a certificate signed by me. I'm a interested party.

Greetings meticulous one!

Truly, I am not usually a moron. So, esp given I have been using this thing going back to my now backup desktop, starting when I was running XP, thru upgrade to W7 32 to this system....and, I still can't get my brain around this kinda chicanery exists in an app......getting the truth of this has taken me a wicked crazy long time.:'(

But I am there now!!!!():)

Forget that test. It's completely pointless.

I now get this 97%. Just hard to let go of the happy part.....all based on an illusion....but we like happy.

That software is faking the results, most likely.

That's the part I can't get my brain around fully yet.....but, it's on the way. The seeds are planted, and sprouting.

I am actually moved, so many sharp people here have shown so much PATIENCE!!!! I mean it. wish everyone in the world would bring that precious thing.
 

Fardringle

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As a follow-up to this, to measure the value of this program, just look at the name, "ASHAMPOO". Break it up, and you see that you are getting A SHAM POO. It's so bad that it's not even REAL poo.. ;)
 

Virgorising

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As a follow-up to this, to measure the value of this program, just look at the name, "ASHAMPOO". Break it up, and you see that you are getting A SHAM POO. It's so bad that it's not even REAL poo.. ;)

:D

My (now shown to be) snake oil, related app may not have the right handle for the above cuteness re not just poo, but bogus poo, but it's the same species.:|

I am now ready to UNINSTALL it. Hadda do baby steps within this thread: first, face and own the not happy truth, then remove from start menu....now the last step.

Was true needle addiction!!!!!
 
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Virgorising

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Well, I uninstalled the Snake Oil. Then, ran an RCN test, it first says "clearing modem data"......and, by God, this looks excellent, given I am paying only for 25.

Thank god it has dials with needles.:sneaky: I am really into those. Tho no bogus optimizer. It even has a link you can hit to reboot yr modem. No disconnecting coaxial or AC......they can do that remotely on the phone if they think it's necessary.

Color me.......CURED.:) THANK YOU GUYS!

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Test Complete

Max Download Speed: 31.28Mbps
Max Upload Speed: 1.17Mbps



Encoded Mac: 31ed3afcc5f9a4c2792b8dd43763a5d4a7d9383b Modem Mac: 00:14:f8:65:a4:76 Downstream Limit: 27000000 Return Frequency: 30700000 Upstream Limit: 2200000 Forward Frequency: 735000000 Forward Modulation: qam256(4) Ret Channel Width: 6.4Mhz Reboot My Modem Downloaded: 161MB in 60 seconds


Please forward feedback or bug reports to speedtestfeedback@rcn.com Previous 10 Tests
 
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gammaray

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it's like those oils that regrow hair, they are supposed to work right? they actually have testimonies and after used head full of hair right?

you see, this planet is filled with crooks who only wish to abuse people naivety to make easy cash on them, they probably have no clue that words like honesty and integrity exist, much less humility, which they never heard about
 

Virgorising

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it's like those oils that regrow hair, they are supposed to work right? they actually have testimonies and after used head full of hair right?

you see, this planet is filled with crooks who only wish to abuse people naivety to make easy cash on them, they probably have no clue that words like honesty and integrity exist, much less humility, which they never heard about


I do get this now, WAY more than before this thread. This lesson is brought to me once in a while. I am generally sharp, but my core belief as a not cynical, inherent optimist, is, the Fausts/ lowlifes/ sleazoids are in a minority.

A GF of mine said something I shall never forget, but just remembered again: she said, "Bank robbers think there are only two kindsa people in the world: OTHER bank robbers, and people who WANNA BE bank robbers.":thumbsup:

And, you could not be more accurate re integrity being the foundation of everything good....starting with happiness.

Character really is....destiny.