What do you think is the most common logical fallacy used in this subforum?

[hal2kilo]

As for me, the worst is when two or three people just go pages into replies with paragraphs worth of responses and the original argument is completely lost. It's just a discussion that has devolved into nothing but people trying to talk over one another and hoping to catch the other in sort of slip up that they can point to and say "HAHA! YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT!".

I guess that's just a combination of a number of fallacies.

Way to much bandwidth is waisted by those 2 or 3 who have to have the last word.

 

[Muse]

How about the use of language to connect the idea of liberal with the visceral and natural protective reaction of disgust. How many children wretch at the sight of food that is green? What if you could be made to find yourself revolting if you challenge authority and real authority is conservative?

Well, that's 1984, the Orwellian ideal... total subjugation of the populace.

I have always thought it my responsibility to challenge authority. It was Jim Morrison who said "When you make your peace with authority, you become authority." People who do not understand that are anathema to my way of thinking and living.

 

[Moonbeam]

Well, that's 1984, the Orwellian ideal... total subjugation of the populace.

I have always thought it my responsibility to challenge authority. It was Jim Morrison who said "When you make your peace with authority, you become authority." People who do not understand that are anathema to my way of thinking and living.

The problem I find within myself is that while I may have all the intentions in the world to think for myself, because I can't determine the roots of all of my attitudes and biases, what I wish to be like and what I am like may be very different things. It was no easy matter, for example, to know I hate myself in the abstract by experiencing buried feelings, leaving god knows how many I still have hidden while knowing for pretty sure they are still some there. The bottom line for me here then, is that I can't really say the way I think and live is really MY WAY.

 

[Muse]

The problem I find within myself is that while I may have all the intentions in the world to think for myself, because I can't determine the roots of all of my attitudes and biases, what I wish to be like and what I am like may be very different things. It was no easy matter, for example, to know I hate myself in the abstract by experiencing buried feelings, leaving god knows how many I still have hidden while knowing for pretty sure they are still some there. The bottom line for me here then, is that I can't really say the way I think and live is really MY WAY.

Well, that's a rather enlightened perspective. I have discovered hidden feelings in myself I would never have believed lived in my subconscious. It was a bitter sweet experience and one I'm not at all sure I've ever come to terms with. It was a long long time ago.

Knowing yourself isn't as simple as most people think.

 

[cytg111]

1. Someone doing or saying something crazy equals a leftie.
2. Two wrongs make a right.

 

[Moonbeam]

Well, that's a rather enlightened perspective. I have discovered hidden feelings in myself I would never have believed lived in my subconscious. It was a bitter sweet experience and one I'm not at all sure I've ever come to terms with. It was a long long time ago.

Knowing yourself isn't as simple as most people think.

Your quotations on happiness you chose to point to I find extremely impressive. Truth approached, I think, brings a collapse of the paradox of duality.

 

[Muse]

Your quotations on happiness you chose to point to I find extremely impressive. Truth approached, I think, brings a collapse of the paradox of duality.

I get a kick out of quotations, I save them, have a pretty extensive collection saved to my personal data. I should say I get a lot more than a kick out of them. Many are in my mind somewhere and pop out like songs that come to you out of the blue sometimes. I remember Henry Miller saying that in his youth he crouched in the crevices between great ideas. It's a metaphor. Having great ideas in mind is ennobling over time. I firmly believe that. Some of those quotations about happiness are among those. When I was a lot younger I didn't believe in "happiness." I believed in PASSION! I still believe in that, of course, but I don't reject "happiness." There's so much that life can offer, "whatever you think, it's more than that, more than that." That's from a song by The Incredible String Band. They were quite mystical savants.

Here's that song: